Sunscreen is not good for you

I've said it for years and years and people laughed in my face. Sunscreen is not good for you.


I even brought it up here:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Well it looks like it is finally catching on mainstream:
www.cnn.com...

five had levels of the chemical in their blood considered statistically significant by the end of day one

Of course they still tell you to use it. Read the article, and really understand what they are saying.
I think the quote above should be enough for anyone to be concerned. I know people that just coat themselves.
They coat their children from head to toe. It is insanity.

Our bodies tell us exactly when we've had too much sun and when to get inside. By placing lotions on that hinder that ability it's no
wonder that so many have skin cancer!

a reply to: JAGStorm

It probably comes down to what type of environment your exposing your body to and how much tolerance your body has to that environment.

I never usually wear sunscreen, which is fine when you’ve got a nice coat going and have developed a tolerance to the sun.

But last week I went to cairns (full blown tropics)... Now It’s basically winter down here in Melbourne and I do night shift so basically never see the sun atm, except for what comes though the side of my blinds in the morning.

Anyway, the tropical sun was a little intense when I went up there, but nothing serious and I refused to put sun screen on when people were telling me I looked a little burnt... But then we went fishing out on the reef for like 6 hours, then didn’t I look like the idiot for not wearing sunscreen... I literally damn near cooked myself alive!

My whole body was burning for 2 days straight, then the peeling started, which just causes an overwhelming itch for days on end.

Point being, whatever chemicals may be obsorbed by sunscreen, there’s no way it could be any worse than being severely & brutally burnt by an intense sun.

originally posted by: JAGStorm
I've said it for years and years and people laughed in my face. Sunscreen is not good for you.


I even brought it up here:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Well it looks like it is finally catching on mainstream:
www.cnn.com...

five had levels of the chemical in their blood considered statistically significant by the end of day one

Of course they still tell you to use it. Read the article, and really understand what they are saying.
I think the quote above should be enough for anyone to be concerned. I know people that just coat themselves.
They coat their children from head to toe. It is insanity.

Our bodies tell us exactly when we've had too much sun and when to get inside. By placing lotions on that hinder that ability it's no
wonder that so many have skin cancer!

I've never been a fan of introducing chemicals (including prescription drugs) onto/into the body unless absolutely necessary.

How many people here on this web site lament about Monsanto and other such things, but also reach for sunscreen or tums, or ibuprofen, weekly or more?
It seems a bit odd.

*if* the alternative is a sunburn II or even III, followed up a decade later with skincancer, then yes, I will always apply sunscreen on my kids and on my unprotected and weakened by winter skin.

This sounds like that idiotic "anti-vax"-movement, comparing a minuscle risk to a significant risk and saying that the small risk is of much higher importance.

No. Use sunscreen. My parents have to undergo physical examinations every year for new skincancer because the 70s and 80s laughed at the risk of getting sunburn using LPF of 2-6 ("12? that was for wimps!").

Perhaps the issue is in not exposing yourself to the sun rather than using sunscreen?

I work outdoors all summer long. I never wear sunscreen and don't get burnt. What you need is a nice wide brimmed hat, and a loose fitting light long sleeved shirt of light color. Yes even in the middle of the summer in hundred degree weather while doing physical work, you will find you are actually a lot cooler that way.

I mean, what is it that people from North Africa and other very hot and bright places wear? That is right, they cover nearly their entire body at almost all times. ex: Beduines.

Now... how about deodorant? I suggest looking into that one as well.

Zinc oxide and plenty of it with coconut oil, just as cheap as the real shop bought stuff
Job done, tastes ok
I have friends who would never use chemical sunscreen, any chemicals

I am ginger and Scottish.

If it wasn't for sunscreen I wouldn't be able to go out side on a clear day.

If I forget the sunscreen then I come home looking like an overcooked tomato, it terrifies the kids.

I burn in moonlight.

I'll take sunscreen, thanks..

from a fellow ginger..

a reply to: JAGStorm

Know what else really sucks? Other than having to use some spf?

Melanoma. Now that’s some horrible stuff that I would not wish on my worst enemy.

Take it from me, use some sunblock.

The danger of sunscreen is a false sense of security. I can wear it and still get a nasty burn if I don't pay close attention. Some of us whitey's need less Sun than other people because we were from cold regions of the world and the Sun goes low on the horizon for the winter months.

a reply to: Justoneman

Same here. In fact it happened a couple a days ago when I was working outside in the woods, under a dense canopy.

I thought I was good. Took all the precautions. Sunscreen, hat, and long sleeves, still burned, and I carry a tan year round.

Cheap sunscreens in the Florida sun have caused blisters.

I know this is for a different thread but the sun just seems like it has gotten much hotter, it's rays downright sting. My burns before snuck up on me, but now a days, ten seconds in the sun and you feel like you are in a skillet, even in the shade.

Now for even another thread. Maybe the aliens are slow cooking us, and that dome is the lid of the crock pot.

a reply to: JAGStorm

Newsflash the FDA doesn't protect you from anything that doesnt instantly kill you. If it takes more than a couple months it's up to you to look up the safety.

Real simple use a sunscreen that doesnt have terrible chemicals, reapply it more often because it doesn't have chemicals, and couple it with shade or clothing.

Some of us work outside and dont want skin cancer. And cant where huge hats.

Given the amount of time I generally spend in the sun? For those few days when I'm out in it for longer than 15 to 20 minutes, I'll take my chances with the sunscreen.

I have to agree with Jag on this. I spent quite a few hours investigating the chemistry of sun screen over the years and I do not think using it on a regular basis is good for anyone. Occasionally if you are out at an outdoor event I see on problem, but too much is no good. I worked outside a lot in my life and I had no problem with cancer, but I would eat foods like sausage biscuits and nuts with oils a lot during the summer. I also liked to get a brat and always ate chicken skin. People need to consume proper amounts of fat in their diet, it helps to keep the skin working correctly. Washing with soap twice a day does not do good for the skin either, it makes it dry out.

Some creams do work to help moisturize the skin, but I do not know which are bad or good, There are so many brands and formulas of them it is hard to determine if the complex chemistry is good for you or not. So I avoid them and also never use sun screen. I knew a guy who had problems with skin cancer, he had used sunscreen for many years. After many operations, the doctor finally told him not to shower so much using soap. He actually started doing that, and he never had another bout of skin cancer for two years, but he was old, and did die anyway. within months of stopping the shower with soap everyday, his skin looked much healthier. his problem came from not enough oil in his system, he liked being skinny, so never ate foods with much fatty acids.

a reply to: JAGStorm

Our bodies tell us exactly when we've had too much sun

Yeah, it's called skin cancer, and thats the answer to having to much sun.
Stay out of the sun during peak times if you can and also cover up.

So, should you stop using sunscreen? Absolutely not, experts say.

From the article you posted.

a reply to: JAGStorm

Would you prefer skin cancer? An actual studied effect of UV exposure?

Can you say ‘confirmation bias’?

originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: JAGStorm

Our bodies tell us exactly when we've had too much sun

Yeah, it's called skin cancer, and thats the answer to having to much sun.
Stay out of the sun during peak times if you can and also cover up.

So, should you stop using sunscreen? Absolutely not, experts say.

From the article you posted.

If you read the entire article it also says:

Califf said next steps would be appropriately designed clinical trials by industry to test safety and determine the optimal dose to prevent skin cancer while balancing risk and benefit.

If you read my other link, my dad got Melanoma and his doctor actually said that some skin cancer is cause by..............................not ENOUGH sun!

originally posted by: ManFromEurope
*if* the alternative is a sunburn II or even III, followed up a decade later with skincancer, then yes, I will always apply sunscreen on my kids and on my unprotected and weakened by winter skin.

This sounds like that idiotic "anti-vax"-movement, comparing a minuscle risk to a significant risk and saying that the small risk is of much higher importance.

No. Use sunscreen. My parents have to undergo physical examinations every year for new skincancer because the 70s and 80s laughed at the risk of getting sunburn using LPF of 2-6 ("12? that was for wimps!").

Back in the 70's & 80's people used to bake for hours outside. Not only that, they added mineral oil or baby oil, and sometimes good ol' crisco to get a darker tan. They basically baked themselves. Our skin is not meant to do that.

This is absolutely not anything like anti-vax, and if you read the article it sounds like the risk is pretty big, not minuscule like you mention.

People are not using common sense. Nobody should spend hours and hours in full sun bare skin, with or without sunscreen. Many hot weathered countries know this and have covered their bodies up with linen, or umbrellas.
Just like with extreme cold, you don't want to get frostbite so you wouldn't let your skin get exposed to the cold for extended periods.

I just use olive oil instead...