Brexit Party claims Government should allow child porn and jihadi murder videos

a reply to: sapien82

The price of freedom is great.

She’s right: the state should not govern the internet.

a reply to: Tartuffe

Ok you think the state shouldn't govern the internet that's cool As a rational human being I dont need to be told how to behave by anyone because I can police myself ! , but do you think that there should be child porn and torture on the internet for everyone to enjoy as they see fit ?

Thats what it boils down to , do you want censorship freedom , but at the cost of increased child porn and the demand for new content
that could be your children or grandchildren in those videos one day!

these types of media are detrimental to society and the well being of humans in general so censorship where censorship is logical where it prevents the ongoing suffering of others and prevents further criminality should be put in place by government if its the only thing they censor then please let it be killing , torture and abuse in any form !

accept from where that abuse is pre agreed by consenting parties and is among those of legal age to engage in sexually related BDSM activity

Why do the government need to even put in censorship of the internet to this level when they know full well that the dark web exists for this type of thing
its completely devoid of any censorship

why is it that child porn and jihadi torture are even on the normal internet, why haven't they remained in the dark web ?

clearly there is some sort of agenda to normalise pedophilia , most likely so that our oh so dearly beloved elected officials can continue abusing children without being relieved of their positions of power and wealth!

ahhhhgggggghhhhhhh
I am not violent at all and I cherish the sanctity of life
but this type of # seriously makes me want to go seek out Hatori Hanzo have him craft me a deadly katana
and then start taking heads clean aff!

originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: sapien82
Is it possible that this person is a plant to make everything Brexit look very, very bad?

That's what I was thinking or all the commentary has been taken way out context while obscene feet and legs were added. Who in their right ef'ing mind is going to advocate for watching child porn? Advocating for that is also advocating for someone to make child porn, which is promoting kidnapping, sexual slavery, child trafficking, rape, torture and abuse. Sounds like the British rags have gone off the rails again.

Cheers - Dave

a reply to: sapien82

“I actually don't think we should ban Jihadi videos because I don't think that is what causes the issue of Islamist violence. We have to confront these things beyond banning them.”

What about that do you disagree with?

a reply to: bobs_uruncle

She said child porn is vile.

Describing child pornography as "illegal" and "vile", Ms Fox said: “This is not about defending child porn this is about fighting censorship and fighting for free speech.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

I disagree with perpetuating the normalisation of violence and suffering which would happen as a result of not banning violent videos of torture!

violence in films and media is different because we know its fictitious and there is normally a moral lesson attached to the depiction of violence!

Where as this is violence to promote ideology through propaganda using the suffering of others to make a point!


We can confront these things beyond the videos and ban the videos , its a double win , violent ideologies cant get a platform to share their propaganda

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

but by not censoring child porn you are opening the gates to propagate violence and abuse of children !

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: bobs_uruncle

She said child porn is vile.

Describing child pornography as "illegal" and "vile", Ms Fox said: “This is not about defending child porn this is about fighting censorship and fighting for free speech.

If you defend the right of people to watch child pornography which by definition is rape and abuse as the child isn't of an age of consent, then ultimately you are condoning to some level the abuse taking place in the first place, even if you are too shallow to consider that. Weird notion? Not really.

a reply to: uncommitted

I believe people should be free to do as these please so long as it doesnt involve the suffering of others !

Simple really

it's not hard to do either , crack down on these videos , find and persecute anyone who supports it , or allow a platform for it , but dont just shut it away and forget about it , eradicate its source, by investigating it in every aspect of humanity


but its a shot in the #in dark when our own governments actively hide high class pedos
because they dont want shame on their family name or , political party , or government !

originally posted by: sapien82
a reply to: Tartuffe

Ok you think the state shouldn't govern the internet that's cool As a rational human being I dont need to be told how to behave by anyone because I can police myself ! , but do you think that there should be child porn and torture on the internet for everyone to enjoy as they see fit ?

Thats what it boils down to , do you want censorship freedom , but at the cost of increased child porn and the demand for new content
that could be your children or grandchildren in those videos one day!

these types of media are detrimental to society and the well being of humans in general so censorship where censorship is logical where it prevents the ongoing suffering of others and prevents further criminality should be put in place by government if its the only thing they censor then please let it be killing , torture and abuse in any form !

accept from where that abuse is pre agreed by consenting parties and is among those of legal age to engage in sexually related BDSM activity

I do not think people should put torture or videos depicting sexual assault online. I believe people have a duty to avoid such content.

It’s a difficult argument to make, But the internet, and information in general, needs to be free of government restriction. The government needs to focus its efforts on the crimes, the assaults, the tortures. That’s where it’s power ends.

humans can be free from government intervention and free to do as they please

just not free to enslave others, cause suffering to others and then watch it back for kicks on the internet

thats my problem

you can have all the #in liberty and justice you like , but its worth # all if the kids that you fought for it for
are abused and mentally ill because some creep abused them when you were out being a libertarian and activist for complete freedom !

Whats the point if the future generation cant even enjoy their freedom because they suffer PTSD

and cant have children

originally posted by: sapien82
a reply to: uncommitted

I believe people should be free to do as these please so long as it doesnt involve the suffering of others !

Simple really

it's not hard to do either , crack down on these videos , find and persecute anyone who supports it , or allow a platform for it , but dont just shut it away and forget about it , eradicate its source, by investigating it in every aspect of humanity


but its a shot in the #in dark when our own governments actively hide high class pedos
because they dont want shame on their family name or , political party , or government !

Couldn't agree more, however I think the 'high class pedos' comment is a brush that is broadly painted but not sure investigations or evidence (with some exceptions, clearly) have always borne it out.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: bobs_uruncle

She said child porn is vile.

Describing child pornography as "illegal" and "vile", Ms Fox said: “This is not about defending child porn this is about fighting censorship and fighting for free speech.

This is what I meant by them taking it out of context and I agree, they are fighting for free speech. It looks like another over the top media smear job.

On the kiddie porn, there already exists laws and this us the kind of thing that should never fall under free spoech because to produce the kiddie porn itself requires breaking existing laws. In effect child pornographers are benefitting from their's or other's illegal activities and using free speech as a catch all smoke screen. The law specifically states that you cannot benefit from crime.

I am all in for free speech, but kiddie porn ISN'T free speech.

Cheers - Dave

Hopefully someone with apple media can have a wee listen to the podcast and get the full picture of what she said

just out of curiosity is the telegraph

bias to brexit

is it against brexit or is it for ?

You know how media pick sides or does the telegraph just pot stir and hope for clicks and subscriptions ?

originally posted by: sapien82
Hopefully someone with apple media can have a wee listen to the podcast and get the full picture of what she said

just out of curiosity is the telegraph

bias to brexit

is it against brexit or is it for ?

You know how media pick sides or does the telegraph just pot stir and hope for clicks and subscriptions ?

The article is largely accurate, it’s just that it doesn’t focus on her main argument, preferring to demonize her because of her position. It’s obviously designed to slander her.

originally posted by: sapien82

If the idea of Brexit party isnt enough to make you sick already

The idea made me literally vomit. And I had just drunk chocolate milk like an hour before. It was like dark colored cottage cheese. And it sprayed out my nose.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

hahahah it could be the ad campaign for brexit!

originally posted by: sapien82
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

I disagree with perpetuating the normalisation of violence and suffering which would happen as a result of not banning violent videos of torture!

So government needs to determine what we can see and protect us from ourselves. No thanks.

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: bobs_uruncle

She said child porn is vile.

Describing child pornography as "illegal" and "vile", Ms Fox said: “This is not about defending child porn this is about fighting censorship and fighting for free speech.

If you defend the right of people to watch child pornography which by definition is rape and abuse as the child isn't of an age of consent, then ultimately you are condoning to some level the abuse taking place in the first place, even if you are too shallow to consider that. Weird notion? Not really.

a reply to: sapien82

I see her saying child porn is both illegal and vile. Can you point to where she said it should be legal?