other explanations for the UFO/Alien phenomenon

a reply to: james1947

Probably wise to get some back up from our inter terrestrial brothers then against the greater dangers of the ZR.
I will check your analysis on BHM later.
You are clearly knowledgeable.
And a bit arrogant.... Comes with the territory though.

originally posted by: ManyMasks
a reply to: Specimen

Interesting that it really kicked off after the atomic bomb was used, if there are other elemental energies that reside in another layer of this world then maybe they became more involved to stop us destroying theirs and our globe.

Don't really know, it might have excited them (loosely) for the most where it changed. Judging by some of Vallees work regarding his attempts at connecting stories of intercounters of magical elves/fairaes, to flying boats in early 19th century to high tec aliens sightings after the first split, it might just be adapting to the circumstances and maybe even technology like the Television set.

Supposedly when there static on a television set it is actually is watching the Big Bang. Not the show.

If they are time travelers they might be using checkpoints like the detonation of the atom bomb in some weird quantum #ery, or they could be much more interwined in our existence then we could ever realize, and that it for them to know and us to never find out.

a reply to: Blue Shift

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Humanoid/bipedal aliens do not exist. Anyone who claims to have seen one or ‘knows’ they exist is either misguided or deliberately lying. Those who make their careers from studying abiogenesis or evolutionary biology will tell you how incredibly unlikely it is for another species to have developed a gait like ours without the benefit of an identical evolutionary and environmental pathway - and even then it’s not guaranteed.

It continually amazes me why people don’t stop to think about and understand our (Earth’s) complete biological evolution to understand it is almost entirely improbable to ever happen again in anything like a similar fashion to ours.

a reply to: james1947

I like your arguments because "other dimensions", "spirits" etc. is just another excuse for not dealing with the real, physical phenomenon. More muddied waters.

Don't get me wrong: I firmly believe in a spirit world where we came from and where we return when we die. This has always existed, is important and belongs in the realm of religion. But while ETs may have spiritual abilities that are confusing for some die-hard materialists, they are physical and they use material machines. Their technology could be helpful for the survival of our own species. This is my opinion after having read what others have experienced, not based on direct observation.

a reply to: TerraLiga

So you are saying it's just us in the Universe.
Never mind unlikely..... But can you imagine what that means if we go on to populate this galaxy then Universe?? We are literally Gods.
Cool I like it.

originally posted by: ManyMasks
a reply to: TerraLiga

So you are saying it's just us in the Universe.
Never mind unlikely..... But can you imagine what that means if we go on to populate this galaxy then Universe?? We are literally Gods.
Cool I like it.

Absolutely not saying that. I think the universe is teeming with life of various types. I just don’t understand why when ‘aliens’ are mentioned they are always bipedal humanoids. That is just human vanity speaking, and is actually pretty stupid.

a reply to: TerraLiga

In "his" image lol... . A tad presumptuous unless we're done with evolving.

But I know what you mean but it is possible that there are many repeating conditions throughout a Universe the size it is claimed to be now.

a reply to: ManyMasks

Things that are true in the world of me. AKA my sightings.

Flying Saucer
Orange ball of Light
Gigantic beams or pillars of light in the moon
Rings like in water, when you drop a stone in water but bright blue and in the night sky
Out of body experience x3 (three beings observing one another, all the same

A couple of ghosts
Thousands of gnomes

And a brilliant BioMechanicalInsectoid bee lady from who knows where.


And your final question, you have misunderstood that we originally thought they are from this world, they where never from here, it was always "another realm".

Personally i believe that what we now call UFOs and Aliens are not from our planet, or from saturn or other starsystem, but they come from a different level or layer of what we call physical reality. -EDIT- Almost forgot to mention that there are reverse engineered crafts, blueprints most likely obtained by an ancient ritual, there is lots of stuff up for grabs.

a reply to: ManyMasks

Sitchin has a whole racket about aliens going.

a reply to: solve

I think I had an obe, seen a zombie young person sitting in the lotus position with goo coming out of eyes, nose, ears and mouth, I say zombie because he appeared heavily sedated, this was on the night shift while I was attempting to astral project, I had heard that people appear like this when you AP. Don't know if me knowing this created conscious dream of it, was weird though, seemed real.

a reply to: Gargoyle91

Time travel is less likely. One second on Earth would completely change the future.

a reply to: ManyMasks

I think there are good vortexes and bad vortexes all around us, very closely together, these can affect people in a good way or a bad way, but unfortunately my meat ball is refusing (because it can`t, by design) to dress this matter in to words.


I mentioned this because you mentioned the appearance of people when OBE.

originally posted by: TerraLiga
Humanoid/bipedal aliens do not exist. Anyone who claims to have seen one or ‘knows’ they exist is either misguided or deliberately lying. Those who make their careers from studying abiogenesis or evolutionary biology will tell you how incredibly unlikely it is for another species to have developed a gait like ours without the benefit of an identical evolutionary and environmental pathway - and even then it’s not guaranteed.

It continually amazes me why people don’t stop to think about and understand our (Earth’s) complete biological evolution to understand it is almost entirely improbable to ever happen again in anything like a similar fashion to ours.

One must not forget the strong possibility of the existence of inorganic life before organic life, you know that old chart that shows the age of the planet and dinosaurs and finally in the end is the small smudge that is the entire history of our species,, So think that the small smudge is basically the history and entire existence of matter. The atom might be a recent configuration.

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What if we are all just part of a infinite Russian doll ?

I guess most of you have seen the film ‘Alien’, where Sigourney walks into the room full of eggs and thinks “sh*t, I shouldn’t be here!”. That’s what I’m thinking now.

Best of luck making sense of a pretty straight-forward but wonderful reality by throwing every made up psychedelic fantasy you can at it.

originally posted by: Specimen
a reply to: Blue Shift

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A living idea virus. Literally "viral."

Unfortunately not as fun as the chance to ride in a nuts-and-bolts flying saucer, but allowing us to interact with something out there that we just wouldn't be able to with basic Newtonian physics in a three-dimensional universe.

originally posted by: TerraLiga
Best of luck making sense of a pretty straight-forward but wonderful reality by throwing every made up psychedelic fantasy you can at it.

It would be great to only have metallic flying saucers piloted by humanoid aliens interacting with people. It might help us find a good solid piece of one of them somewhere. Unfortunately, that's not what the actual data from many of the witnesses suggests. Even to this day, when someone is either investigating or describing an encounter, the high strangeness -- telepathy, time shifts, emotional manipulation, etc. -- will get thrown out or not mentioned because we don't have a solid paradigm for it to fit into.

That's just not good science.

a reply to: Blue Shift

Sounds like a machine elve on steroids.