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originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: cooperton
Again the "core tenets" even the Apostolic Creed only came about after hundreds of years of bitter infighting, hereses, and battles as to such simple things as to what they wore or what place women had in the hierarchy.
Many lives were slaughtered in the name of arriving at your "core tenet" simplification
originally posted by: Phantom423
Creationism is clearly a cult because it's a small group of people who espouse strange, unproved beliefs.
originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
would that be Baal, Jehovah, El Shaddai, Elohim, or......
Riddle me this - If god confounded their language at Babel, why would it be part of the same game in confusing man over who he/she/it really is.
Why is this god so deceptive?
originally posted by: cooperton
originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: cooperton
Again the "core tenets" even the Apostolic Creed only came about after hundreds of years of bitter infighting, hereses, and battles as to such simple things as to what they wore or what place women had in the hierarchy.
Many lives were slaughtered in the name of arriving at your "core tenet" simplification
Again, killing in the name of Christ is an oxymoron. If someone kills someone over an ideology then the ideology they are killing for is imperialism or power, not Christ's philosophy. Jesus was very precise saying any sort of violence is prohibited... He even went so far as to say persistent anger against someone else is murder. That is the golden standard. Have there been wolves posing as sheep? Certainly. Christianity has been used as a facade multiple times throughout history for imperial gain, but, by definition of the philosophy, they were not Christians.
originally posted by: Phantom423
Creationism is clearly a cult because it's a small group of people who espouse strange, unproved beliefs.
Creationism posits that the world resulted from a Divine Creator/s. It is not limited to Judeo-Christianity. You think it is silly simply because of your membership in the evolution cult - who suppose matter gave rise to consciousness somehow. It skews your entire perspective. Creationism on the other hand insists that matter was created by a powerful conscious Being - which matches the observations in quantum physics. as an example, consider how in our dreams we can create vast worlds every night.
Current world population (estimate) - 7,321,593,981. That's 7 billion with a b.
Revelation 6:7-8 says,
When he opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, “Come!” And I looked, and behold, a pale horse! And its rider’s name was Death, and Hades followed him. And they were given authority over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword and with famine and with pestilence and by wild beasts of the earth.
So in rapid order, 25% of the earth's people will die. A quarter of 7.3 billion people is 1,830,398,495 dead. That's 1.8 Billion dead. Remember the 2004 Banda Aceh Christmas day tsunami that killed 250,000 people? Bodies washing up everywhere? Multiply that by tens of thousands and millions and you have some idea of the deaths that will take place when the fourth seal is opened. It will happen fast, too. The entire Tribulation will only be as long as 7 years, and the Seal judgments are opened at the outset, so pretty quickly bodies will pile up in the streets.
So after a fourth of the population dies, we have 5,491,195,486 remaining on earth. That's 5.4 Billion people.
Revelation 9:18 says that another third will die quickly also, this time in the Trumpet Judgment. "By these three plagues a third of mankind was killed, by the fire and smoke and sulfur coming out of their mouths."
This means that a third of 5.4 billion people will die. That's another 1,812,094,510 billion dead. Billion with a B.
By now there are 3,679,100,976 people left. Of course there area great many fewer because countless numbers die in the wars, die or are killed due to violence because of no restraint on sin, and secondary causes like fires from unattended gas lines or cholera or starvation. So let's estimate another billion have died from all those causes. That leaves 2.6 billion people and that is only halfway through the Tribulation. We have gone from 7.3 billion people down to 2 billion- or less.
I suspect the death from sin will be much higher than we even can comprehend. The Holy Spirit will not be restraining sin at all. All men will be able to be as bad as they can be, moral depravity will be at highest levels ever. People will kill with impunity, for no reason, just to see you die. They will die from drugs and alcohol other bodily excesses, illness, starvation, and likely suicides. We know that the world will be used to looking at death with no problem, because by the time the Two Witnesses are killed their bodies are allowed to putrefy in the street for three and a half days while the entire world looks at them and dances in joy over their death. (Revelation 11:9-10)
3,642,493,005 or half the current population will for a fact die.
originally posted by: TzarChasm
so how exactly are these events taking place without the direct involvement of a higher power? are you trying to say the "king" is going to return just to sit there and watch all of this happen? 3.5+ BILLION people are supposed to die because that is what the master plan says? and this king is no way responsible for ANY of the chaos and devastation?
so how exactly are these events taking place without the direct involvement of a higher power? are you trying to say the "king" is going to return just to sit there and watch all of this happen? 3.5+ BILLION people are supposed to die because that is what the master plan says? and this king is no way responsible for ANY of the chaos and devastation?
originally posted by: Rapha
a reply to: one4all
Your answers are all held in the (current regime) Bible.
Not many people are going to survive this coming onslaught.
originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: one4all
Does your onion layers allow for stolen time of 1000 years history?
Why does humanity always revert to a dark age? And old knowledge is forgotten or suppressed.
What if these gods are not Mans friend?
www.stolenhistory.org...
All will be revealed when all Doctrinal realities are brought together and all begin to speak as one for the benefit and enlightenment of Greater Humanity.
Who will be the great Revelator?
This is a good read if you're interested....
www.amazon.com...
he remarkably subtle thread he weaves through every page of every chapter: that we hapless homo sapiens are being used and always have been -- that each of these seemingly unrelated events and persons were and are, in fact, critical pieces of a master plan orchestrated by aliens. Or 'gods' if you prefer the vernacular of those who worship them. He seems to believe, in a nutshell, that a band of extraterrestrial tyrants whom he calls the Custodials landed here eons ago with self-serving and nefarious intentions in mind.
originally posted by: MissSmartypants
a reply to: one4all
First of all, he would step down and appoint a woman as King... most likely me. And once I was King I would basically just collect taxes and other than that... you guys can do whatever you want
originally posted by: cooperton
a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight
Again, killing in the name of Christ is an oxymoron. If someone kills someone over an ideology then the ideology they are killing for is imperialism or power, not Christ's philosophy. Jesus was very precise saying any sort of violence is prohibited... He even went so far as to say persistent anger against someone else is murder. That is the golden standard. Have there been wolves posing as sheep? Certainly. Christianity has been used as a facade multiple times throughout history for imperial gain, but, by definition of the philosophy, they were not Christians.
originally posted by: whereislogic
originally posted by: cooperton
a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight
Again, killing in the name of Christ is an oxymoron. If someone kills someone over an ideology then the ideology they are killing for is imperialism or power, not Christ's philosophy. Jesus was very precise saying any sort of violence is prohibited... He even went so far as to say persistent anger against someone else is murder. That is the golden standard. Have there been wolves posing as sheep? Certainly. Christianity has been used as a facade multiple times throughout history for imperial gain, but, by definition of the philosophy, they were not Christians.
Even more than that:
Early Christians refused to serve in the Roman army, in both the legions and auxilia, considering such service as wholly incompatible with the teachings of Christianity. Says Justin Martyr, of the second century C.E., in his “Dialogue With Trypho, a Jew” (CX): “We who were filled with war, and mutual slaughter, and every wickedness, have each through the whole earth changed our warlike weapons,—our swords into ploughshares, and our spears into implements of tillage.” (The Ante-Nicene Fathers, Vol. I, p. 254) In his treatise “The Chaplet, or De Corona” (XI), when discussing “whether warfare is proper at all for Christians,” Tertullian (c. 200 C.E.) argued from Scripture the unlawfulness even of a military life itself, concluding, “I banish from us the military life.”—The Ante-Nicene Fathers, 1957, Vol. III, pp. 99, 100.
“A careful review of all the information available goes to show that, until the time of Marcus Aurelius [121-180 C.E.], no Christian became a soldier; and no soldier, after becoming a Christian, remained in military service.” (The Rise of Christianity, by E. W. Barnes, 1947, p. 333) “It will be seen presently that the evidence for the existence of a single Christian soldier between 60 and about 165 A.D. is exceedingly slight; . . . up to the reign of Marcus Aurelius at least, no Christian would become a soldier after his baptism.” (The Early Church and the World, by C. J. Cadoux, 1955, pp. 275, 276) “In the second century, Christianity . . . had affirmed the incompatibility of military service with Christianity.” (A Short History of Rome, by G. Ferrero and C. Barbagallo, 1919, p. 382) “The behavior of the Christians was very different from that of the Romans. . . . Since Christ had preached peace, they refused to become soldiers.” (Our World Through the Ages, by N. Platt and M. J. Drummond, 1961, p. 125) “The first Christians thought it was wrong to fight, and would not serve in the army even when the Empire needed soldiers.” (The New World’s Foundations in the Old, by R. and W. M. West, 1929, p. 131) “The Christians . . . shrank from public office and military service.” (Editorial introduction to “Persecution of the Christians in Gaul, A.D. 177,” in The Great Events by Famous Historians, edited by R. Johnson, 1905, Vol. III, p. 246) “While they [the Christians] inculcated the maxims of passive obedience, they refused to take any active part in the civil administration or the military defence of the empire. . . . It was impossible that the Christians, without renouncing a more sacred duty, could assume the character of soldiers, of magistrates, or of princes.”—The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, by Edward Gibbon, Vol. I, p. 416.
“For though we walk in the flesh, we do not wage warfare* [We do not wage warfare.” Lit., “we are not doing military service.” Gr., ou . . . stra·teu·oʹme·tha; Lat., non . . . mi·li·taʹmus.] according to what we are in the flesh. For the weapons of our warfare are not fleshly, but powerful by God for overturning strongly entrenched things.” (2 Cor 10:3,4)
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Jehovah Equips Us!
The Bible being fantasy is a opinion, but the facts are the Bible is extremely accurate. Jericho was once believed to be a fantasy too by people like you.