The Return of The King

a reply to: Phantom423

Survival of the fittest is a genetic trait which translates to violence.

Yes this is the result of corruption by choice. We have been offered a choice once more and an opportunity for humans who have inherited the corruption to be made perfect again. Humans believed and followed the liar we now have the chance to follow one who keeps his word.

a reply to: one4all

I don't know how humans would overcome the genetic trait which seems to be embedded in our species. Your vision would require an abundance of resources such that everyone would have everything available to them with no effort, no work.
That suggests that some super power has to provide for everyone ad infinitum. Humans would just eat, sleep, reproduce and never experience a challenge. I'm not sure that anything in this universe is built that way.

Just look at the simple model which was tried recently in one of the Scandinavian countries (I forget which one). They provided an income to everyone in the experiment such that everyone was comfortable and didn't have to worry about their next meal. It failed totally. The same experiment was run recently in a California community. Again, total failure. It goes against human nature to sit around doing nothing.

Perhaps you have a different model of how it could be done? I think the genes will always get in the way.

a reply to: SeaWorthy

I'm not sure we chose our genetic traits consciously. When you say corruption by choice, I presume that's what you mean. Our genetic profile has developed based on what was needed for the species to survive. If we need high quality protein, we kill and eat animals. It's simply a fact of life for our species.

originally posted by: one4all
Many more will survive than without the many and varied Doctrinal writings or histories we have available to us today as bastardised as they may be.

Every spirit on this planet Earth, has chosen a certain path to follow that will guarantee their survival (existence) to realms far beyond this "training ground" planet Earth.

That is all this planet is; a training ground for spirits to accept responsibilities. Their skills / talents will guide other souls back to a better way of life and away from the pains of war that cover Planet Earth right now.

originally posted by: Phantom423
Christianity is replete with violence throughout history.

If a wolf in sheep's clothing commits an atrocity, should we blame a sheep or a wolf? The Christian philosophy is clear on violence - none whatsoever, even if you are being harmed. If anyone is being violent they are by definition not behaving like a Christian. So your example, if anything, simply says that hypocrites exist among the supposed Christian community. This does not depreciate the authenticity of the unadulterated Christian Philosophy.

a reply to: cooperton

It may be what they say. But that's not what they do - or did. It's clear from history that this is not the case. Creationism is a case in point. Brainwashing people into thinking that science is bogus, that the Earth is 6,000 years old and all the other Creationist crap, is a form of violence. It's an outright fraud which attempts to dissuade people from understanding the real world around them.

Cultism is always an act of violence.

originally posted by: Phantom423
a reply to: cooperton

But that's not what they do - or did.

Then it's clear that "they" were not Christians. Someone doesn't claim an identity just by saying it. No matter how much you say you're a sheep, you're still a wolf if you behave like a wolf.

originally posted by: Phantom423
a reply to: cooperton

Cultism is always an act of violence.

You don't realize how many people have been deluded by your evolution cult. Matter did not create living beings. Newtonian physics is long obsolete, replaced by quantum physics. Energy and consciousness are the integral aspects of the universe, and material reductionism is dead. Yet because your cult can't let it go, evolution is still taught in schools to naive developing minds leading them into surmising they are meaningless blips in an apathetic universe.

Look at your self in the mirror. You are no accident. Look at the functioning of a cell. It is no accident. It is a meticulous factory-like process that humbles even the greatest factory made by humans. If your cult would consider its own fallibility, it would be able to process this revelation clearly.

originally posted by: Rapha
a reply to: one4all
Your answers are all held in the (current regime) Bible.

Not many people are going to survive this coming onslaught.

And the fact that much of modern civilization is okay with that onslaught as you described it is very frightening. Revelation is basically the Holocaust x50, easily hundreds of millions of people getting killed by divine providence as part of the master plan. Return of the fuhrer is more like it.

originally posted by: TzarChasm

And the fact that much of modern civilization is okay with that onslaught as you described it is very frightening. Revelation is basically the Holocaust x50, easily hundreds of millions of people getting killed by divine providence as part of the master plan. Return of the fuhrer is more like it.

Live by the sword, die by the sword. When the veil is lifted the havoc in your mind will manifest. Blaming the Most High God for your derangement is probably the worst thing you could do.

a reply to: cooperton

You don't realize how many people have been deluded by your evolution cult. Matter did not create living beings. Newtonian physics is long obsolete, replaced by quantum physics. Energy and consciousness are the integral aspects of the universe, and material reductionism is dead. Yet because your cult can't let it go, evolution is still taught in schools to naive developing minds leading them into surmising they are meaningless blips in an apathetic universe. Look at your self in the mirror. You are no accident. Look at the functioning of a cell. It is no accident. It is a meticulous factory-like process that humbles even the greatest factory made by humans. If your cult would consider its own fallibility, it would be able to process this revelation clearly.

Science has never said that the universe or anything in it was an "accident". You continue to misrepresent science - who are you trying to convince - yourself or others? Where is your evidence for this "accident"? You don't have it because it doesn't exist. Your accident model is totally contrived to suggest something that has absolutely no validity.

Science says it is a process. A process can be described as a series of events that lead to an end solution. Your cell model as an accident is ridiculous. Cell evolution and development are clearly defined as an evolutionary process. There's no accident here.

A cult, like Creationism, is a small group of crazies who try to impose fallacies and lies on weak minded people. Your audience does not represent the majority of planet who accept science for what it is: discovery and evidence.

a reply to: Phantom423

sci·ence /ˈsīəns/ noun the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.

Science simply tries to look at and learn about what God made.

www.forbes.com...

Newspaper and television stories sometimes make it seem as though evolution and religion are incompatible, but that is not true. Many scientists and theologians have written about how one can accept both faith and the validity of biological evolution. Many past and current scientists who have made major contributions to our understanding of the world have been devoutly religious. At the same time, many religious people accept the reality of evolution, and many religious denominations have issued emphatic statements reflecting this acceptance.

www.nas.edu...

a reply to: Phantom423

small group of crazies

really?

However, 68% of all the unaffiliated expressed belief in God and out of the whole US population, only 2.4% self identified as "atheist". A 2013 poll by UPI/Harris showed that three-quarters of U.S. adults say they believe in God

en.wikipedia.org...

Worldwide, more than eight-in-ten people identify with a religious group,” says a new comprehensive demographic study of more than 230 countries and territories conducted by the Pew Research Center’s Forum on Religion & Public Life.

www.washingtontimes.com...

originally posted by: cooperton

originally posted by: TzarChasm

And the fact that much of modern civilization is okay with that onslaught as you described it is very frightening. Revelation is basically the Holocaust x50, easily hundreds of millions of people getting killed by divine providence as part of the master plan. Return of the fuhrer is more like it.

Live by the sword, die by the sword. When the veil is lifted the havoc in your mind will manifest. Blaming the Most High God for your derangement is probably the worst thing you could do.

So we aren't supposed to blame revelations on the guy who supposedly planned the end of days?

a reply to: SeaWorthy

You're confusing Creationism with Christianity. Creationism is a cult. Christianity is a religion. The statistics you quoted are based on religions, not cult groups.

originally posted by: Phantom423
a reply to: SeaWorthy

You're confusing Creationism with Christianity. Creationism is a cult. Christianity is a religion. The statistics you quoted are based on religions, not cult groups.

cre·a·tion·ism
/krēˈāSHəˌnizəm/
noun
the belief that the universe and living organisms originate from specific acts of divine creation, as in the biblical account, rather than by natural processes such as evolution.

That would include all religions who believe in a creator as the numbers show.

originally posted by: Phantom423
a reply to: SeaWorthy

You're confusing Creationism with Christianity. Creationism is a cult. Christianity is a religion. The statistics you quoted are based on religions, not cult groups.

Religions are all cults, by definition.

The fact that some have larger acceptance, and followings, is irrelevant.

I'm not anti religion, as many hundreds of millions find comfort, and peace through thier beliefs, but that "holier than thou" approach is nonsense.

a reply to: Mach2

CULT a relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister. "a network of Satan-worshiping cults" synonyms: sect, religious group, denomination, religious order, church, faith, faith community, belief, persuasion, affiliation, movement; More a misplaced or excessive admiration for a particular person or thing. "a cult of personality surrounding the leaders" synonyms: obsession with, fixation on, mania for, passion for; More

This what I'm referring to - traditional religions have millions of followers. Creationism is clearly a cult because it's a small group of people who espouse strange, unproved beliefs. Very different.

a reply to: SeaWorthy

That really is not a complete definition of Creationism. The biblical account of creation has nothing to do with science. It doesn't even mention science. But Creationists have reinterpreted the Bible as a scientific work - which it is not. And to add insult to injury, their interpretation of science is completely bogus. That's why it's a cult.

originally posted by: one4all
If our history as a Species has been distorted or lost and Humanity had a King with Kingly level powers including absolutely overwhelming military support .....and he was absent on business and had been gone and now returned …. what changes do you think he would make first upon his arrival?

What groups would he immediately target and dissolve?....what societal influences would he target and dissolve?....what would he do with Governments who had WMDs and Religons and religious fanatics who believe their gods can sanction the killing of others for a variety of reasons?

What would he do about poverty and hunger and sickness and disease?

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An interesting thought-exercise.Thanks.

The King would probably need some time to get-over the shock, and sadness at the sorry state of our civilization.
Take stock of what's working, and what's dysfunctional.

What does this have to do with origin of life?