Theresa May wins backing for delay from the EU

originally posted by: RadioRobert
I sort of think her play is to make a never-ending hash of Brexit until people are so sick of the process they drop the demand, or by backdooring things like the backstop in to undermine the effort.
It's like when your wife asks you to do the Christmas shopping and you deliberately buy grocery gift cards for everyone knowing you'll never be asked to do it again.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Haven't seen anything to change my mind...

originally posted by: chiefsmom
a reply to: eletheia

I'm curious, as I don't know much about your politics, how long is it, before your next vote on the politicians?
Surely they want this over before then?

Normally every 5 years, but the PM Theresa May, in her wisdom called a 'snap

election' shortly after the referendum as she was sure she would get a bigger

majority in Parliament....... long story short .....she didn't and is now working

with a smaller majority than she had initially. Karma's a bitch!!


There is talk being thrown about that to 'get her out of a pickle' there might

be another 'snap election' but I think that would be opening Pandora's box!!!


In that event I, and I think many many others wont know who to vote for they

have ALL proved themselves untrustworthy. In fact I would vote for ANY

outsider rather than the two main parties!!

a reply to: UpIsNowDown

its because they need the uk's money they played hard ball then reluctantly agreed its a con imo

a reply to: ForteanOrg

that's bollocks all the people that were interested voted the ones that couldn't be bothered should just shut it

a reply to: JPtruther

You guys have a very nasty surprise on its way I can almost guarantee you.

Why would those of us with the smarts to vote to remain in the Eu have a "very nasty surprise" on its way?.

I'll be sitting back in the comfort of my leather recliner, beer in hand, watching the TV as your lot get your heads cracked open. It might actually knock some sense into you.

It's Your lot who will be in for the "very nasty surprise". And after getting your heads cracked you'll be fast-tracked to jail for a reasonable amount of time. Once the sentences are handed down the We want our country back revolution will disappear like a fart in the wind.

a reply to: JPtruther


I think that if Britain leaves the EU it could very well collapse, that would mean a very unstable Europe, its bad enough now France an Italy are not happy Greece even more so, with Spain and Ireland not so far behind. Its all being held together by Bull anyway. On the one hand you have the Global Fascist agenda, with over a hundred deaths in France, on the other hand a load of countries looking more like they would like to go the Socialist way. The standard of living in Moscow and St Petersburg, for the average guy even with American sanctions trying their best to kick the Russian standard of living in the crutch, is better than the average guy in Greece. If it collapses the first thing that would happen is Greece joining the Russian federation, they are trading across the border now, in defiance of EU rules. With Turkey the next in line. Destabilising Europe would not be in the British rulers interest so don't hold your breath on Brexit.

originally posted by: Steveogold
a reply to: ForteanOrg

that's bollocks all the people that were interested voted the ones that couldn't be bothered should just shut it

Bollocks? I'll give you bollocks ..

1. - almost 30 percent of "The People" did NOT vote. Amongst them those that took ill, had childbirth, were in hospital, were young and ignorant, or old and somewhat immobile etc. Now, they did a poll amongst those that did not vote and guess what: if they had voted, remain would have won. Sure, you can say "that's their fault, they had the chance" - no, not all of them had, actually - but you can't say "It's the will of the People", merely "Its what a bit more than half of the folks that turned up said".
   
   
2. - The complexity of the matter was vastly underestimated. For example, take Northern Ireland where "The People" can have TWO nationalities: British or Irish. Or even both! And the poor sods that chose to be Irish and hence should be fully entitled to free traffic in the EU etc. would be held hostage by the Brits after Brexit.
   
   
3. - Nobody asked anybody at any time about HOW they would like to leave the EU. Nor did anybody tell "The People" what the consequences of the various options to leave would be.
   
   
4. -"The People" were told blatant lies: nonsensical hogwash about the EU inefficiency, the NHS that would get hundreds of millions of extra pounds after Brexit, about how streams of refugees would take over the UK if you did not leave the EU, well, fear uncertainty and doubt were spread.
   
   

originally posted by: ForteanOrg

- almost 30 percent of "The People" did NOT vote. Amongst them those that took ill, had childbirth, were in hospital, were young and ignorant, or old and somewhat immobile etc. Now, they did a poll amongst those that did not vote and guess what: if they had voted, remain would have won. Sure, you can say "that's their fault, they had the chance" - no, not all of them had, actually - but you can't say "It's the will of the People", merely "Its what a bit more than half of the folks that turned up said".

Firstly the *young and ignorant* should not be voting......

Secondly what ever the turn out, it was the biggest turn out in UK history.

- The complexity of the matter was vastly underestimated. For example, take Northern Ireland where "The People" can have TWO nationalities: British or Irish. Or even both! And the poor sods that chose to be Irish and hence should be fully entitled to free traffic in the EU etc. would be held hostage by the Brits after Brexit.

It was their choice freely made, therefor I think they will be happy with it.

Life exists out of the EU. There's a whole big world out there

- Nobody asked anybody at any time about HOW they would like to leave the EU. Nor did anybody tell "The People" what the consequences of the various options to leave would be.

We dont care how we leave AS LONG AS WE LEAVE.

Consequences???? We intend leaving not committing suicide.

-"The People" were told blatant lies: nonsensical hogwash about the EU inefficiency, the NHS that would get hundreds of millions of extra pounds after Brexit, about how streams of refugees would take over the UK if you did not leave the EU, well, fear uncertainty and doubt were spread.

We didnt need to be told lies we have lived in the EU inefficiency for

long enough to know what we wanted.

a reply to: ForteanOrg

Yet again you arrogantly suppose that you know better than people who actually live here in the UK.

A 72% turnout is quite high for the UK.
We can try to factor in the intentions of those who didn't vote in any election/ballot but it's hugely irrelevant
The fact remains they didn't vote.

And to allege that there was a ballot of those who didn't vote - how do we know they didn't vote - is really quite ridiculous.
Please supply details and facts.

Until details of this 'poll' are revealed I'm calling outright bollocks on this allegation.

As for Northern Ireland; it's the EU that is putting principle before peace.

And as for the lies; both sides were absolutely full of #e.
Accusing one side without accusing the other is at best selective and at worst deliberately disingenuous.

Brexit hasn't shown anyone in a good light, seems some people are intent on continuing to spew the bile and empty rhetoric that plagues us.

a reply to: Freeborn


Loll!!! I love it when people who don't even live here tell us we are wrong

and havent a clue about what we are doing !!!

originally posted by: ForteanOrg
almost 30 percent of "The People" did NOT vote. Amongst them those that took ill, had childbirth, were in hospital, were young and ignorant, or old and somewhat immobile etc. Now, they did a poll amongst those that did not vote and guess what: if they had voted, remain would have won.

Have you got a link to this survey?

The complexity of the matter was vastly underestimated. For example, take Northern Ireland where "The People" can have TWO nationalities: British or Irish. Or even both! And the poor sods that chose to be Irish and hence should be fully entitled to free traffic in the EU etc. would be held hostage by the Brits after Brexit.

Not sure what you mean by "free traffic etc" but we would still be allowed to travel to EU countries without a visa EVEN if we leave without a deal.

Nobody asked anybody at any time about HOW they would like to leave the EU. Nor did anybody tell "The People" what the consequences of the various options to leave would be.

There is only one way you can truly leave the EU and that means leaving the single market and customs union. It was up to the remainers to highlight the consequences of leaving and they failed miserably by lying and over-exaggerating.

"The People" were told blatant lies: nonsensical hogwash about the EU inefficiency

Yawn. Please entertain us by proving an example and link. Please no obscure example, it will have to be an example "the people" must have seen.

the NHS that would get hundreds of millions of extra pounds after Brexit

I agree that was a lie but it was debunked every time it was mentioned, even by some leavers like Farage. Towards the end of the campaign, VoteLeave stopped referencing it and it was mainly mentioned only by remainers. I don't think many people actually believed it anyway.

how streams of refugees would take over the UK if you did not leave the EU

I think you are over-exaggerating there. If the EU refugee crisis was mentioned, it was said that they could come after 5 years or something, if they get an EU passport. I don't think anyone said they would take over the UK.

fear uncertainty and doubt were spread.

Yeah and the remoaners are still at it!

If you are so concerned about lies, I dare you to look at the lies told by the remainers.
Do they get a free pass because they are on your side?

At the end of the day most people who voted leave did so predominately for two reasons.
- Independence/democracy
- More control on immigration

We don't get neither of those if we don't leave the single market AND customs union.

originally posted by: 83Liberty


If you are so concerned about lies, I dare you to look at the lies told by the remainers.

And sheer bloody-minded ignorance.

At the end of the day most people who voted leave did so predominately for two reasons.
- Independence/democracy
- More control on immigration

We don't get neither of those if we don't leave the single market AND customs union.

And not having to pay our hard earned taxes so they can disappear into the corrupt EU cesspit.



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a reply to: ForteanOrg

The tone of your posts imply that you don't wish The U.K. to leave The E.U.

What reasons do you have that we should remain? Just curious.

originally posted by: eletheia
a reply to: Freeborn


Loll!!! I love it when people who don't even live here tell us we are wrong

and havent a clue about what we are doing !!!

Mostly Americans. As if they don't have enough problems of their own.

a reply to: oldcarpy

Lol. Cuz Brits never get on here and lecture americans on guns/trump/foreign policy etc etc. Weak and pathetic...like your Prime Minister.

a reply to: lakenheath24

We consider it only good manners as your former colonial masters.

a reply to: Freeborn

Peeps keep going on about the tiny margin of victory...yet is that not almost the exact same margin of past general elections???? Nobody seemed to riot/protest over that.


The irony iz that remainers are basing their arguments on fear just as much as the leavers. Aint nobody got actual facts as to what will happen.

I must say that if in the US we had a legal election (i.e. Donald Trump) and it was denied (almost, we did have an attempted coup that was thwarted, proof is coming), I would hope that would be the breaking point here in the states. Can you imagine a legal election being ignored? It ALMOST happened here too, however the NWO is loosing BIGLY here in the US, STAND UP BRITS!

originally posted by: ForteanOrg
Nope, it is the British that hesitantly and by a teeny-weeny majority decided to leave, well, kind of, well, no, well, yes, well if we can figure out how...

As mentioned by Freeborn, there was a high turnout of peeved off Brits.

Oh more than half of British citizens decided to leave. Remember: many (if not ALL) of the Poling Stations, used Graphite pencils to vote with.

Since i first voted in mid 80's, voting was ALWAYS done using a Cheap, Bog Standard black BIC biro. Never, ever were pencils used; until the Brexit when the NAZI BROWN SHIRTS wanted to erase the TRUTH of just how peeved off us Brits are.

a reply to: oldcarpy

Sweet....a 250 year old joke that still rings hollow.