Assange to be expelled from Ecuadorian embassy

originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: schuyler
Didn't we hear the same thing a few weeks ago?

Yes we did. Methinks Wikileaks is just trying to milk this for all it's worth to maintain some level of publicity. It would be good for him to get out and about, face the justice in the UK for the criminal offence of skipping bail, and then we'll see what happens.

So, go I g back a bit, all the Assange haters were call It nonsense that he will be e extradited to the US, and he was using that as an excuse to not face charges of skipping bail and the fake charges of rape.

Now we know that the American government do want Assange, so he was right all along. Haters going to take that on board? Doubt it very much!

a reply to: Blaine91555

Neither do I to be honest. I'd think all his followers would fit in a small meeting room.

Then you are stupid! He has a huge following around the world.

a reply to: RexKramerPRT

He is an idiot to avoid jail he created his own prison.

Don't care about Assange and you don't care about journalistic freedom, period, no argument, the guy has been persecuted for reporting some uncomfortable truths about people in power.

There's a ton of sheeple on this thread

originally posted by: Jay-morris
... all the Assange haters were call It nonsense that he will be e extradited to the US, and he was using that as an excuse to not face charges of skipping bail and the fake charges of rape.

Don't think I've ever met an "Assange hater". I have met plenty of people who think he escaped legal process and thinks the law is something that should not apply to him.

There is no guarantee that he'll be extradited to the US even if the US pursue such an option. In the sequence of events though, Assange will be arrested and face an English magistrate for his criminal offence of skipping bail. He even tried to wriggle out of that offence, but the UK courts basically threw all his arguments out.

Read Assang's arguements and the court ruling, which covers extradition

a reply to: Jay-morris

Stupid? Naive maybe. I'm not impressed by childish name calling.

Why would anyone care about Assange? Hasn't he made a lot of promises of releases that were never kept? Isn't he hiding like a coward instead of dealing with his legal issues?

He seems like a teenager in an adult body to me. Perhaps his followers are naive and I seriously doubt he cares about his followers. At that level of narcissism, they never do.

a reply to: Zcustosmorum

Again with the adolescent name calling.

Explain to me why people should care about him. What makes him so special the law does not apply to him.

A couple more years and people will say "Assange who?".

originally posted by: Blaine91555
a reply to: Zcustosmorum

Again with the adolescent name calling.

Explain to me why people should care about him. What makes him so special the law does not apply to him.

A couple more years and people will say "Assange who?".

So many words and you don't even address the actual point

originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: RexKramerPRT

He is an idiot to avoid jail he created his own prison.

What a stupid thing to say!

a reply to: Zcustosmorum

Actually, you got it wrong.

He's not in trouble for journalism. He went into hiding over sexual assault allegations and claimed it was because he felt abandoned by Australia.

As a point of interest, Ecuador has a genuine problem with the media and free speech. They have a Transparency and social control branch.

Link

UN's Human Rights Council's (HRC) Universal Periodic Review (UPR) has treated the restrictions on freedom of expression and efforts to control NGOs and recommended that Ecuador should stop the criminal sanctions for the expression of opinions, and delay in implementing judicial reforms. Ecuador rejected the recommendation on decriminalization of libel.

According to Human Rights Watch (HRW) President Correa has intimidated journalists and subjected them to "public denunciation and retaliatory litigation". The sentences to journalists have been years of imprisonment and millions of dollars of compensation, even though defendants have been pardoned.Correa has stated he was only seeking a retraction for slanderous statements.

According to HRW, Correa's government has weakened the freedom of press and independence of the judicial system. In Ecuador's current judicial system, judges are selected in a contest of merits, rather than government appointments. However, the process of selection has been criticized as biased and subjective. In particular, the final interview is said to be given "excessive weighing." Judges and prosecutors that have made decisions in favor of Correa in his lawsuits have received permanent posts, while others with better assessment grades have been rejected.

The laws also forbid articles and media messages that could favor or disfavor some political message or candidate. In the first half of 2012, twenty private TV or radio stations were closed down.

In July 2012 the officials warned the judges that they would be sanctioned and possibly dismissed if they allowed the citizens to appeal to the protection of their constitutional rights against the state.

People engaging in public protests against environmental and other issues are prosecuted for "terrorism and sabotage", which may lead to an eight-year prison sentence.

As far as I can see, the periodic rumours about Assange being expelled are always coming from Wikileaks themselves. So are they manufacturing their own crisis?

a reply to: Blaine91555

I dumped WikiLeaks when it became clear that they are the propaganda wing of the World Socialist Party and their agenda became clear; to destroy the Western world and remake it in the image of Karl Marx.

a reply to: DISRAELI
Good point. They need donations.

a reply to: projectvxn

Those girls that led to his legal problems were Marxists. I recall finding the info on that at the time.

a reply to: Blaine91555

Actually, you got it wrong.

I don't think so, and the charges were dropped anyway:

sverigesradio.se...

Additionally, the allegations happened later, and the fact that they were dropped just adds even more suspicion to an already suspicious chain of events, it's totally about journalistic freedom

originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: Jay-morris
... all the Assange haters were call It nonsense that he will be e extradited to the US, and he was using that as an excuse to not face charges of skipping bail and the fake charges of rape.

Don't think I've ever met an "Assange hater". I have met plenty of people who think he escaped legal process and thinks the law is something that should not apply to him.

There is no guarantee that he'll be extradited to the US even if the US pursue such an option. In the sequence of events though, Assange will be arrested and face an English magistrate for his criminal offence of skipping bail. He even tried to wriggle out of that offence, but the UK courts basically threw all his arguments out.

Read Assang's arguements and the court ruling, which covers extradition

No Assange haters? You are either lying, or your blind hatred is getting in the way. On here there are plenty of Assange haters, and you know it.

As for him being worried about being extradited to the US, that has been pretty much confirmed by the US. So he would have to be stupid to leave the embassy!

You think he is only doing this to not face the skipping bail charge lolololol Are you seriously that naive?

originally posted by: Jay-morris
As for him being worried about being extradited to the US, that has been pretty much confirmed by the US. So he would have to be stupid to leave the embassy!

On extradition... It's a legal process. If the US apply to have Assange extradited from the UK then it'll be treated like all other extraditions. There is no guarantee the English courts will agree to extradite. But, as it's an English court you'll be able to see the legal arguement.

Assange needs to man up.

originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: Jay-morris
As for him being worried about being extradited to the US, that has been pretty much confirmed by the US. So he would have to be stupid to leave the embassy!

On extradition... It's a legal process. If the US apply to have Assange extradited from the UK then it'll be treated like all other extraditions. There is no guarantee the English courts will agree to extradite. But, as it's an English court you'll be able to see the legal arguement.

Assange needs to man up.

Oh come on! You people have an excuse for this guy every time! First he was lying about being extradited to the US, and was only using that as an excuse for skipping bail. We now know he was right, and haters were wrong!

So what's the next step! Ignore the fact that you were all wrong, and just tell him to "man up"

If you were in his shoes, and knowing the US government wanted to extradite you, you would do exactly the same thing as Assange! If you say otherwise, you are lying!

It's easy to act the tough guy in the comfort of your own home in front of your computer!

We are talking about a government that has been involved in the deaths of millions of innocent men, women and children due to illegal invasions (UK included) and you think he should have faith in that system lololol

originally posted by: Blaine91555
a reply to: Jay-morris

Stupid? Naive maybe. I'm not impressed by childish name calling.

Why would anyone care about Assange? Hasn't he made a lot of promises of releases that were never kept? Isn't he hiding like a coward instead of dealing with his legal issues?

He seems like a teenager in an adult body to me. Perhaps his followers are naive and I seriously doubt he cares about his followers. At that level of narcissism, they never do.

Yeah it's easy to say that about him in the comfort of your own home behind your computer. If you were in his shoes, you would do exactly the same thing if you knew the us government want to extradite you. If you say you would not, then you are simply lying!