Please start stocking up on food

About 15 or so years ago the opposite happened in the southern states. Drought killed off most of the grain and caused a domino effect through the US food chain. They had to start killing off cattle because they couldn't feed them enough grain. It caused meat prices to drop and then to rise drastically. The prices never really did recover and now meat is still much higher than it used to be.

I imagine it will be much the same result.

No shortage, but much higher prices.

s&f

These are things many people are not aware of but should be.

Always someone with doom and gloom predictions.
Religions have been predicting the end of the world for 2000 years.
This is just another one for the trash pile.

a reply to: samkent

Honestly, this has happened before,and is happening now.
It is not gloom and doom, just how the food chain works in the US from a farmers perspective.

It starts with things like wheat and grain, which is used to feed animals not just cereal and bread...

The flooding has been terrible,
and it will effect prices.

a reply to: Darkblade71

I would agree that it is an issue. I think that the video, and source material (Michael synder) have a doom and gloom vibe to it. An apocalyptic-like vibe.

It''s one thing to say, hey the MSM isn't reporting on this and it's important. But the video is basically saying; hey the MSM isn't reporting on this and we might starve to death!

I can't post the video, you have to go watch it, but just to give you an idea on what is already happening, the military has to help, and that should kind of tell you it IS a big deal.

After historic flooding in Nebraska, livestock was scattered and in danger of starving after being stranded without feed. The National Guard units from Nebraska and Minnesota stepped in to help with Operation Prairie Hay Drop to keep the cattle sustained during the critical calving season. (Ben Murray / Military Times)

www.militarytimes.com...

If the flooding gets as bad as they say it will this year,
a rib steak which runs 14.99 a lb in my store has the potential to go up to 19.99 or more.
That is how it works.

a reply to: blueman12

Yeah, we won't starve, but the wallets will be much thinner.

a reply to: stonerwilliam

He had crazy return on veg from that little area all without the back-break of digging up ground , the stocks went in the bottom of a empty bucket and he turned one inside another when done

I'll bet! I'm assuming he was using 5 gallon buckets? Those are deep enough he could even grow some root veggies like carrots and potatoes. And vines like peas and beans would be great in the top buckets, just cascading down. Oooh... I love the mental picture that gives me!

Do you recall what all he was growing?

I was excited to find some volunteer tomatoes growing this season. We feed our turtle tomatoes, and then my hubby dumps the turtle's dirty water in a bed by the back door, and sure enough we've got tomatoes growing! We buy all different kinds of cherry tomatoes for him, so they could be anything at this point. They're growing with an esperanza with yellow and red blooms, so whether they are yellow or red or both, it should look pretty all season.

It's ok... Don't worry! I have a solution.....



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Plant Rice!

So all that corn isn't going to be planted this year.


I think that's ma' natures way of saying... You're eating TOO DAMN MUCH SUGAR!


I think we could do without a little fattening in our lives.

Not sure how big of an impact it’s going to be. Here’s a map of agricultural density across the US .



The most effective areas are along the Missouri River. Ate notably Missouri and Illinois.

Missouri’s major crop products are soy beans and hard corn .

www.stuffaboutstates.com...

Illinois is pretty much the same with the state producing around 25% soy beans.

www2.illinois.gov...

The 1993 Mississippi river flood affected an area as large if not larger. Some crop prices went up a little bit but they they recovered with in a year or so .

Initially in 1993 the media pushed food price doom porn. Here’s a study on the effects .

The farmers of course are mostly get hurt but there is relief in place for them after the 93 flood .

It all depends on whether they planted or not . BTW i’ve watched farmers plant corn immediately after flood waters dry .


ageconsearch.umn.edu...


This will be the same the crops mostly affected will be corn and soybean. We export 1/2of or soybean and about a 21% of our court .


Just thinking out loud here. But it makes sense that if grain prices go up meat prices will come down .


Ribeyes for everybody !!!

a reply to: Boadicea

Everything spring onions , carrots ,potatoes .giant onions ,etc etc all in 2 gallon uk plastic 1 gallon pots cut side ways with Rhone pipes and all on paving slabs and easy to garden in a small space where there was no grass or soil , wish i had taken a pic but it was years ago .

a reply to: Fallingdown

I'm sure a large percentage of the corn goes into ethanol production......maybe we can get some gasoline without ethanol in it.... that would be great ! and I'm quite sure that probably a significant portion of the soybean crop goes into biodiesel production...

a reply to: HarryJoy

If the flood damages the corn crop that much I doubt will be competitive on the global market .

We won’t be able to export it’ll all be supplemented by the government and sold in country .

There’s nothing wrong with ethanol.

Outside of gasoline, it’s called moonshine 👍

a reply to: Fallingdown

Would be nice to see a drop instead of an increase in meat prices.

If it happens anything like it did about 15 years ago,the price drops, then skyrockets.

Higher cost to feed your cattle in the US causes mass slaughtering of cattle.
The price does drop, but then they have to start all over again,
which causes a shortage which causes an increase in prices.

It is a pendulum swing, it will go as high to one end as it goes low to the other.
Short term benefit, long term higher prices.

I wouldn't think that in Nebraska and the states it borders would have anything planted yet except winter wheat. So I am not sure how this would cause a calamity in that area of foodstuff. Cattle and pigs - sure. Crops ...don't think so.

originally posted by: Fallingdown
a reply to: HarryJoy

If the flood damages the corn crop that much I doubt will be competitive on the global market .

We won’t be able to export it’ll all be supplemented by the government and sold in country .

There’s nothing wrong with ethanol.

Outside of gasoline, it’s called moonshine 👍

Yep!

I do have a love hate relationship with the stuff.

I love that it's in my wine, my shine and my spirits but I hate that it's in my car's fuel tank.

But you can make that stuff from anything that has sugar in it. Apples... No wait... 1/3 of the worlds apples have fallen, but we do have every other fruit that has plenty of sugar. I imagine sugar cane would be just as fine. Louisiana has lots of that. Soybeans too.

The only other thing I can think of mass use for corn... Cattle food. It's ok though. Most of the cattle got swept away with the corn. It wasn't good for them anyways. Corn isn't something that Cattle would naturally eat anywho. So to me, washing away a vast chunk of corn farmland is like washing away fields of poppy or tobacco. I mean, sucks for the farmers for sure but It's not like an oh woe is me, the world is ending, sort of thing.

This year I'm going to put my 180 acres into soybeans instead of cotton. I would be switching to hemp but it's not allowed.....yet! A lot of farmers are also switching to food crops.

Food Prices are going to skyrocket.

a reply to: Darkblade71

That’s a good point. I should’ve thought things a little farther through .

When the cattle were being slaughtered meet prices should’ve tanked. They did but the surplus wasn’t passed along. Then we got double screwed why we waited for them to rebuild there herds.

There are so many variables and outcomes it’s hard to keep up with .

Mad cow affected the prices .

The avian flu affected poultry and egg prices .

I always found this humorous ........

The meat crisis in the 1970s was started by it’s a shortage of anchovies .

I knew cows will eat live meat but I didn’t know they would eat dead fish . Lol

a reply to: StallionDuck

Cane sugar and sugar beets are both making comebacks .

The grain left over from the distillation process is good for cattle. Especially meat cattle just before slaughter i’ve been told it marbles the meat . But it is also good chicken and hog feed even fertilizer .

Corn has other benefits they’re making great strides using it in biodegradable plastics .

I’ve brought this up before but if # does hit the fan and we wake up one morning to a world who‘s technology has regressed 200 years .

Whoever is growing potatoes and corn is going to be king . ( I should probably throw peanuts in there too )

If it gets so bad that I have to shoot my neighbor for food, then I'll be handing my neighbor food before they shoot me, and I'll die, as is the duty of any person that claims to be a true humanist.

We are a group, a collective, not an individual. Self ego is nothing to preservation of society, so there's no need to doom prep, or worry about the end of the world. If the world screws itself up, then fall on the sword, as is the duty of any human that wants the continuation of the whole, and doesn't mind being the price to pay for it.