Greenland Glacier Starts Growing Again..Does It Prove Global Warming Theory A Myth?

a reply to: climateexp

Humans have changed the earth to not recognize that is delusional.

Funny how dumb this theory is...

How small was the object that wiped out the dinosuars?

How small are atoms that create atomic weapons?

Antimatter?

Literally dont even need to explain how we can damage habitat so we can not survive even though the earth will regenerate over millions of years.

originally posted by: Fallingdown
a reply to: climateexp

That leaves 96.99 climate scientist unaccounted for .

I’ve met people with doctorates who I wouldn’t trust to walk my dog by the way . (Jk)


a reply to: luthier

Show me what you got. I am sincerely interested because I’ve only found small bits of information on it.

Number of people is irrelevant in science. Thousands of scientists over thousands of years believed the heavier things fall faster than lighter things theory until 1 guy with not even a bachelor's degree Galileo proved all of them wrong with a very simple experiment and ended a perfectly intuitive theory that stood since the days of Aristotle who came up with it.

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: climateexp

Humans have changed the earth to not recognize that is delusional.

Funny how dumb this theory is...

How small was the object that wiped out the dinosuars?

How small are atoms that create atomic weapons?

Antimatter?

Literally dont even need to explain how we can damage habitat so we can not survive even though the earth will regenerate over millions of years.

Dinosaurs was wiped out by an asteroid? I don't think so.

a reply to: Fallingdown

Because climate scientists are not working on these papers for the most part. They are geologists, physicists, biologists etc..

Again show me where climate scientists with a bachelors work..
Do medical dr's start the practice after they get a bachelors?

originally posted by: climateexp

originally posted by: Fallingdown
a reply to: climateexp

That leaves 96.99 climate scientist unaccounted for .

I’ve met people with doctorates who I wouldn’t trust to walk my dog by the way . (Jk)


a reply to: luthier

Show me what you got. I am sincerely interested because I’ve only found small bits of information on it.

Number of people is irrelevant in science. Thousands of scientists over thousands of years believed the heavier things fall faster than lighter things theory until 1 guy with not even a bachelor's degree Galileo proved all of them wrong with a very simple experiment and ended a perfectly intuitive theory that stood since the days of Aristotle who came up with it.

This is totally false as the scientific method was not used widely until empericist philosophy.

a reply to: climateexp

Really? Was it aliens? Maybe jesus?

No you are right. Winter for years in tropical climates didn't create mass extinction.

Ps the alternate theory shows even greater the impact of climate on megafauna.

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: climateexp

Really? Was it aliens? Maybe jesus?

No you are right. Winter for years in tropical climates didn't create mass extinction.

Ps the alternate theory shows even greater the impact of climate on megafauna.

Dinosaurs accounted for only a small portion of animals in Jurassic. Crocodiles survived to today. Alligators survived to today. Fish survived to today. Lizards survived to today. Birds survived to today. Amphibians survived to today. Insects survived to today. Molluscs survived to today. Arachnids survived to today. Worms survived to today. Anyone who believes an asteroid killed T rex is delusional.

originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: climateexp

originally posted by: Fallingdown
a reply to: climateexp

That leaves 96.99 climate scientist unaccounted for .

I’ve met people with doctorates who I wouldn’t trust to walk my dog by the way . (Jk)


a reply to: luthier

Show me what you got. I am sincerely interested because I’ve only found small bits of information on it.

Number of people is irrelevant in science. Thousands of scientists over thousands of years believed the heavier things fall faster than lighter things theory until 1 guy with not even a bachelor's degree Galileo proved all of them wrong with a very simple experiment and ended a perfectly intuitive theory that stood since the days of Aristotle who came up with it.

This is totally false as the scientific method was not used widely until empericist philosophy.

And no climate scientist ever did a single experiment. Not even Arrhenius ever did one. So what's your point? Science without experiment is not science. At least Angstrom did an experiment and they spit venom on Angstrom. All they care about is carbon tax. Most theories are proven false. They are afraid of getting proven false. That's why they predict things in the year 4000 or something.

originally posted by: Fallingdown
I’ve always wanted the “97% of climate scientist” to explain to me how they’re finding artifacts from the neolithic period under glaciers .


www.smithsonianmag.com...


Not to mention an explanation for warmer weather durning the Eemian and Paleolithic periods.

Stone Age man went through three interglacial periods.

If those were due to man made CO2 there must’ve been a hell of a lot of cavemen rubbing sticks together .


Wait a minute never mind I can explain all those periods of global temperature change .

They happened because of slight changes in the earths axis ( wobbles) also known as Milankovitch cycles.

The age of the dinosaurs was much warmer than anything we've ever seen. There was no permanent ice at the poles.

originally posted by: climateexp

originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: climateexp

originally posted by: Fallingdown
a reply to: climateexp

That leaves 96.99 climate scientist unaccounted for .

I’ve met people with doctorates who I wouldn’t trust to walk my dog by the way . (Jk)


a reply to: luthier

Show me what you got. I am sincerely interested because I’ve only found small bits of information on it.

Number of people is irrelevant in science. Thousands of scientists over thousands of years believed the heavier things fall faster than lighter things theory until 1 guy with not even a bachelor's degree Galileo proved all of them wrong with a very simple experiment and ended a perfectly intuitive theory that stood since the days of Aristotle who came up with it.

This is totally false as the scientific method was not used widely until empericist philosophy.

And no climate scientist ever did a single experiment. Not even Arrhenius ever did one. So what's your point? Science without experiment is not science. At least Angstrom did an experiment and they spit venom on Angstrom. All they care about is carbon tax. Most theories are proven false. They are afraid of getting proven false. That's why they predict things in the year 4000 or something.

Dont mistake climate propaganda on either side as fact.

What is of concern is the relationship of habitat and human beings in our case. Climate change is something to watch regardless of why its happening. Changes in weakened environments (chemical pollution in our case and the fallout with fungus and bacterial overgrowth) Climate change can most certainly be effected by humans. The testing we did with nukes in the atmosphere was a particularly bad one. Surely Russia has had plenty.

We have historical geological record, with observational equipment and AI in all sciences. For instance AI can go through thousands of scanning wavelengths we can't see and seeing better in the ones we can (like xrays in radiology)

We have physics modeling and experiments in particle physics relationship with weather.

Also in biochemistry and chemistry.


We know for sure human beings could literally obliterate the planet with particle physics.

Destroy it. The magnetic field whatever we want. We can certainly poison biological systems to the point of not being useful to humans.

So it is wise in my opinion that regardless of what is causing changes, we should take in account we have finite biological life that creates a habitat. It literally evolved together and takes a very long time to evolve together again as a different set of genes.

When things fold habitats collapse. The length of time they collapse depends on what survives and where. We can say 100 percent this happens. If only simple life survives could be millions. There needs to be genetic diversity for complex organisms.

Again we know that.

Maybe we just have so many consumers alive in 30 years as Asia develops quickly we have some real pollution and habitat destruction to mine and pump the energy and raw materials ...then we just destroy ourselves in war.

The point is to think about the real fact living in our own trash is going to suck. It's actually positive to design tools and products that may be better designed to limit the amount of resources they take to produce. As well as what kind of waste and where we put it.

originally posted by: climateexp

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: climateexp

Really? Was it aliens? Maybe jesus?

No you are right. Winter for years in tropical climates didn't create mass extinction.

Ps the alternate theory shows even greater the impact of climate on megafauna.

Dinosaurs accounted for only a small portion of animals in Jurassic. Crocodiles survived to today. Alligators survived to today. Fish survived to today. Lizards survived to today. Birds survived to today. Amphibians survived to today. Insects survived to today. Molluscs survived to today. Arachnids survived to today. Worms survived to today. Anyone who believes an asteroid killed T rex is delusional.

It would probably be wise to not call someone delusional after giving this example.

You are correct its possible several times human being have migrated through several lesser events. They are a culling and created incredibly harsh living conditions.

Again doesn't seem like a great argument for the status quo.

Climate scientists are a bunch of Aristotles. There isn't a single Galileo amongst them.

a reply to: Fallingdown

They happened because of slight changes in the earths axis ( wobbles) also known as Milankovitch cycles.

The Milankovitch cycles include "wobbles" in Earth's orbit as well. Thing is, according to that theory, the northern hemisphere should be cooling, very slowly and very slightly. It isn't.

biocycle.atmos.colostate.edu...

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: whywhynot

Sure. And animals have gone extinct.

Darn those mammoths and their industry!

a reply to: Phage

I can’t challenge you on this. You know far more than me.

But I’ve got a question.

The claims of global warming also state that the southern hemisphere is warming up .

Wouldn’t that mean that right now we would have to be at a obliquity of 0 degrees?

On a sidenote .....

You might like this Joke.

I like to believe both sides can laught .

Heat waves a sign of global warming

Arctic blast and blizzards are a sign of global warming

Prolong droughts are a sign of global warming

500 year flood’s are a sign of global warming


There you have it pretty much anything cold, hot, wet or dry is proof of global warming .



One of my main problems with global warming is the past history of behavior modification using tactics like these .



The population bomb was a theory that spread fear in the 60s and 70s . By the late 70s and 80’s the world was supposed to be dying from famine. People were clutching their pearls at the thought of the end of the world and the best way to prevent the coming doom was to limit our population .

Coincidently that’s when abortion came out of the closet and was established firmly with roe vs wade.

On the tail end of the population bomb scare came global cooling and the coming Ice Age . I don’t think it was a coincidence that happened about the time of the Arab oil embargo . Many people reacted the way they do now to global warming. Paniced people will do anything to prepare for it . Gas prices soared without much complaint.

Gas continued rising in price through the 90s fed by another global fear “peak oil”.

Now comes man-made global warming . The left is terrified from hearing things like the earth will end in 12 years. The east coast of the United States will be underwater don’t forget your rubber ducky.

The democratic party Pushes Climbin change to scare their constituents and keep them in line. Much in the same way 3/4 of the Liberals have no idea which trumps doing but hate him on a persona pushes climbing change to scare their constituents and keep them in line.

To me it is like the other fear tactics I mentioned . If you keep the population scared the easier they are to manipulate. Because they will look to those in charge for comfort .


BTW I believe the globe is getting gradually warmer. I just don’t believe that man is the reason .

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Fallingdown

Because climate scientists are not working on these papers for the most part. They are geologists, physicists, biologists etc..

Again show me where climate scientists with a bachelors work..
Do medical dr's start the practice after they get a bachelors?

I asked you to show me yours and you wanted me to show you mine . Lol

This is all you need to call yourself a climate scientist .

I guess I could be wrong it happens sometimes.( like when I’m talking to Phage🤦‍♂️)

So show me the college credits and degrees you need to qualify as a climate scientist . I’m sure without a doubt there are many highly educated individuals. But it’s not all of them .

www.bachelorsportal.com...

a reply to: Fallingdown

Wouldn’t that mean that right now we would have to be at a obliquity of 0 degrees?

No. Since both hemispheres are warming (regardless of season), it's more likely to mean that increasing CO2 concentrations are increasing radiative forcing in both hemispheres. There is more heat being retained in the climate system overall.

There you have it pretty much anything cold, hot, wet or dry is proof of global warming .

Global warming means climates will change. It doesn't mean nowhere will ever be cold.

On the tail end of the population bomb scare came global cooling and the coming Ice Age .

Not really. Though a few climate scientists expressed concerns about global cooling (caused by particulate pollution), and the media picked up on it, far more were talking about global warming.
scholar.google.com...

a reply to: Phage

No. Sinc both hemispheres are warming, it's more likely to mean that increasing CO2 concentrations are increasing radiative forcing.

Could both hemispheres could warm at the same time without CO2 and the earth at a obliquity of 0 degrees ?

a reply to: Fallingdown

With an obliquity of 0º there would be no seasons. The sun would always follow the same path across the sky. But no reason to expect warming.

a reply to: Phage

First one was a joke. Come on dude give me a chuckle or something .
Lol

I watched everything I said happened from the population bomb forward I was there. We saw it on TV but more often you heard it on the radio . Back then every community college and up had at least one underground newspaper. The conspiracies spread like they do on the Internet just a lot slower until word-of-mouth took over .

I remember a news report where someone was trying to sell subdivisions in Alaska . I guess the coming Ice Age scared off potential buyers.

I guess it wouldn’t be a stretch that some people got holding the bag though .

The good news is with global warming they’ve probably doubled their money . 🤔

Just having fun now we’re probably not going to agree on GW.


My position is I have no doubt the earth is getting warmer but I doubt that man is the reason .


Cheers