Key Greenland glacier growing again after shrinking for years, NASA study shows

A major Greenland glacier that was one of the fastest shrinking ice and snow masses on Earth is growing again, a new NASA study finds. The Jakobshavn glacier around 2012 was retreating about 1.8 miles and thinning nearly 130 feet annually. But it started growing again at about the same rate in the past two years, according to a study in Monday’s Nature Geoscience. Study authors and outside scientists think this is temporary.

“That was kind of a surprise. We kind of got used to a runaway system,” said Geological Survey of Denmark and Greenland ice and climate scientist Jason Box. “The good news is that it’s a reminder that it’s not necessarily going that fast. But it is going.”

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Oh, you mean the shrinking and expanding maybe due to long term natural trends after all?

NAHHH!!!! NO WAY! That does not compute.

*sigh*

Yeah temporary. About as temporary as human lives and opinions are on this planet.

originally posted by: TrueAmerican

A major Greenland glacier that was one of the fastest shrinking ice and snow masses on Earth is growing again, a new NASA study finds. The Jakobshavn glacier around 2012 was retreating about 1.8 miles and thinning nearly 130 feet annually. But it started growing again at about the same rate in the past two years, according to a study in Monday’s Nature Geoscience. Study authors and outside scientists think this is temporary.

“That was kind of a surprise. We kind of got used to a runaway system,” said Geological Survey of Denmark and Greenland ice and climate scientist Jason Box. “The good news is that it’s a reminder that it’s not necessarily going that fast. But it is going.”

www.nbcnews.com...

Oh, you mean the shrinking and expanding maybe due to long term natural trends after all?

NAHHH!!!! NO WAY! That does not compute.

*sigh*

Yeah temporary. About as temporary as human lives and opinions are on this planet.

Anecdotal evidence means nothing.



Did you know the Earth is flat?

a reply to: dfnj2015

Lol - a chart of 160 yrs out of 4.5billion.
Nice.
The Earth is not flat, but the sky is falling, eh?

Well, I read the article.
Still abit confused.
So if it started shrinking around 2012, and started growing again in 2017, how do they know it is just a temporary blip? They aren't saying what it was doing before 2012. Had it grown previously?

Mighty fine scientific mumbo jumbo there, without giving any long time facts.

And that makes me wonder what they don't want me to know.

a reply to: dfnj2015

Long term, the planet is cooling. The end.

If it weren't, the Siberian Traps, Deccan Traps, or any other myriad of colossal volcanic eruptions would be taking place and we'd be extinct. Research what happens when increased heat rises in our mantle/crust. Fortunately for us, we're still here and able to spew mere snapshots of geologic time all over the internet in order to capture hefty science budgets and grants to feed the kids.

Science likes research money, they can twist things just like MSM can and supply evidence to show their inflow of money is worth the funding. But science is a tool, it can be used to deceive or to help. In this case, they are chasing the buck. It does not give people the right to keep poluting though, we must take care of the ecosystem better and outlaw many chemicals that are causing problems to it. I do not want to live off of lab grown meat and I do not want my grandkids to have to eat it either, we have to keep a viable ecosystem going.

originally posted by: dfnj2015

originally posted by: TrueAmerican

A major Greenland glacier that was one of the fastest shrinking ice and snow masses on Earth is growing again, a new NASA study finds. The Jakobshavn glacier around 2012 was retreating about 1.8 miles and thinning nearly 130 feet annually. But it started growing again at about the same rate in the past two years, according to a study in Monday’s Nature Geoscience. Study authors and outside scientists think this is temporary.

“That was kind of a surprise. We kind of got used to a runaway system,” said Geological Survey of Denmark and Greenland ice and climate scientist Jason Box. “The good news is that it’s a reminder that it’s not necessarily going that fast. But it is going.”

www.nbcnews.com...

Oh, you mean the shrinking and expanding maybe due to long term natural trends after all?

NAHHH!!!! NO WAY! That does not compute.

*sigh*

Yeah temporary. About as temporary as human lives and opinions are on this planet.

Anecdotal evidence means nothing. Did you know the Earth is flat?

Wanna play dueling graphs?

a reply to: schuyler

Exactly. And ya know, I used to get quite upset about the periodic uplift of the Yellowstone caldera. Wow, very threatening! But that's until you zoom out and take a look at the big picture. It's just what it does. Up and down. Up and down. The climate is the same way. What is worrisome about Yellowstone though is that we can never assume it is going to go down once it starts going up. So I will give the climate alarmists that much, for there is a parallel there. Tough call, and sighs of relief at the end.

So here is a little relief- the ice is growing again.

a reply to: schuyler
Looks like that graph ends 95 years ago? That's misinformation. The GISP2 ice core data ends in 1855. That's 164 years ago.


I wonder what more modern temperatures might be like the bore site? Here's some observed data from another coring site in Greenland, added to the chart for reference. Looks to have warmed a bit, or quite a bit and that was 10 years ago. I wonder what that green trendline might look like now.
www.skepticalscience.com...
But it is, after all, just a single location, in an area which is greatly affected by north Atlantic ocean circulation. It's bound to see ups and downs, with the general trend being up. Like the rest of the planet.

a reply to: Phage

Well these predictions and models have proven so utterly wrong it is beyond laughable...as is the core data sets.

Truly is hilarious to see the diehards continuing to tell us about our doom because temps went up 1 degree MAYBE SOMEWHERE SOMETIMES in the last 200 years... despite our attempts to use carbon to rise it 5 degrees, lol.

Apparently carbon has literally no effect as AGW'ers believe...time to get off the sauce and realize things are different than these claims.

a reply to: ParasuvO

Well these predictions and models have proven so utterly wrong it is beyond laughable.

Not really.
www.realclimate.org...

Truly is hilarious to see the diehards continuing to tell us about our doom because temps went up 1 degree MAYBE SOMEWHERE SOMETIMES in the last 200 years... despite our attempts to use carbon to rise it 5 degrees, lol.

You've just demonstrated that you have no idea what you are talking about.

Apparently carbon has literally no effect as AGW'ers believe.

Actually, it does.

Solar minimum

a reply to: TrueAmerican

You can not just pick a single location and scream it is all wrong. And yet you deniers do it all the time. There is really no helping stupid I guess.

What is the state of glaciers all over the world?

If you actually took some time and looked into it, you would find that while there are regional fluctuations the cumulative glacier mass change has been negative and continues to be so.
wgms.ch...

If you look at the data of the reference glaciers you will see that indeed some of them show an occasional mass gain. But you have to look at all of them to get a global picture.
wgms.ch...

cycles within cycles within cycles... it's all cyclical, that should be the first law of nature.

And Arctic sea ice has increased to 2007 levels. Considering the 1970s was a very cold decade, when sea ice measurement began in 1979 sea ice must have been higher than most other times.

nsidc.org...