So many untimely deaths of top scientists around the world - most always "accidental"

I came across this video it is basically a video on alternative types of engines and fuels but towards the end they get into talking about different sources of energy, thorium being one (in place of standard nuclear reactors), and how so many people involved with this and other technologies dy under extremely suspicious circumstances - often being classified as an accident (like shooting themselves in the back of the head 6 times must have been an accident..). Then there are top scientists who have the expertise to identify those who have committed crimes being killed just at the time when their skills would have been needed.

When we hear people say that conspiracies don't exist, I would have to point to stories like this as a prime example of how they do - with the oil industry protecting their market or the MIC protecting their foothold (on nation's necks) in why war is necessary.

This video starts talking about the deaths around 7 mins (12 minute video) if that is the part you want to watch. The beginning part is kind of interesting though I had seen all of it before, so nothing really earth shattering there.

Top scientists are people too. People die.

a reply to: DigginFoTroof

A good friend of mine worked for the CDC and recently died.
She was young and vibrant, with kids and a husband.

From the outside it would appear that she died suddenly and mysteriously, and of course working for the CDC just
adds to the intrigue.

but..
To those of us that knew her, have known she was battling breast cancer for years.

a reply to: DigginFoTroof

Here's a really good site on alternative energy technologies:

Alternative Energy News

There are a lot of scammers out there. This site concentrates on "Show me the data". This site separates practicality from hopeful imaginations.

a reply to: DigginFoTroof

The Indians, Chinese, and Japanese are driven by other factors that just serving Big Oil interests in Texas. The World is a big place. If any practical alternatives to Big Oil existed they would be for sale on the end-cap of Home Depot.

Yes, but how many die under extremely suspicious circumstances soon after making ground breaking discoveries that were actively being suppressed/silenced. That is the real issue. It's not like there people are just passing away b/c of heart disease 10 years after their discovery. Falling off a bridge (it's assumed he jumped) when he was not depressed or mentioning any issues with being sad/unfulfilled then killing himself with no note, not "getting house in order" for family (finances, will, etc). These aren't things that happen so frequently to people who are smart and successful.

It's too easy to try to dismiss this, but choosing to be blind doesn't help anyone and only gives cover to those who are actively trying to suppress society.

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: DigginFoTroof

A good friend of mine worked for the CDC and recently died.
She was young and vibrant, with kids and a husband.

From the outside it would appear that she died suddenly and mysteriously, and of course working for the CDC just
adds to the intrigue.

but..
To those of us that knew her, have known she was battling breast cancer for years.

I'm not talking about things like that. I'm talking about a situation like this (just a made up example). If she had just discovered a cure for alzhiemers or AIDS and was healthy, happily married with young children. Then a few months after her discovery she ends up dead (after being told not to release her findings), maybe by some kind of suicide (a method that is very rare with women, they tend to use certain ways to commit suicide and some ways are VERY rare - men are the same, there are ways that are almost never heard of men using to commit suicide). That is the type of circumstances that keep popping up around these people who make ground breaking discoveries.

Did either of you watch the video or did you just reply? Just curious if we watched different things.

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: DigginFoTroof

Here's a really good site on alternative energy technologies:

Alternative Energy News

There are a lot of scammers out there. This site concentrates on "Show me the data". This site separates practicality from hopeful imaginations.

Oh, I know there are a lot of scams in this world. There are also a lot of suppressed technologies, things that were shelved because they would decrease profitability. A good example is this one kind of engine that was about 30-50% more efficient and was developed in the 30's or 40's. The rights/patent was bought and the engine was never seen again until the last few years where I think there has been work on it again (based on work stemming from the patents, drawings & descriptions of the past).

New technology doesn't have to be "revolutionary" or completely different than the existing system, but by adding or changing some small pieces or "methods" of how it works, you can get significantly different results. If a car could get 40-50% more mileage from a gallon of petrol, that would be huge - and if there was a trade-off of power output for efficiency, that might be something people are willing to sacrifice for the better mileage. The thing is there are industries that would be totally opposed to this.

We all know there is a TON of shady $hit that happens in politics, including murders, so why are people so unwilling to accept that the same thing happens in industries that basically run governments (in some small part, larger parts in other countries). People think the gov killed JFK, RFK, MLK, (that is creepy they all end in K...) Malcom X to maintain the status quo and keep their control. Do you think industries that are strictly PROFIT oriented wouldn't do the same? I think they would be MUCH quicker to do this than a government agency..

a reply to: dfnj2015

Digginfortroof has a very valid opinion .... "coincidence" anyone? MH370 was definitely a 'coincidence' (/s)

If any practical alternatives to Big Oil existed they would be for sale on the end-cap of Home Depot.

LOL as if!

Do you reall think The biggest 'industry' in the World is going to let such inventiond see the lightof day?

look up a guy named Ogle and his 400mpg car ... he (coincidentally?) 'died' just before it's initial production

There''s a Huge thread here at ATS about this guy an cars that GET (either) incredible mileage or run on "non fossil fuels"

UNTIL Big Oil has been 'de-monopolized' as it should be OR electric cars 'take over' ... nothing's going to change about this

a reply to: JohnnyJetson

Do you really think that the "biggest industry in the world" would allow electric cars to see the light of day? Oh, wait......

originally posted by: DigginFoTroof

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: DigginFoTroof

A good friend of mine worked for the CDC and recently died.
She was young and vibrant, with kids and a husband.

From the outside it would appear that she died suddenly and mysteriously, and of course working for the CDC just
adds to the intrigue.

but..
To those of us that knew her, have known she was battling breast cancer for years.

I'm not talking about things like that.

The trouble is that once you eliminate cases like that you are left with very little. I've seen similar threads on other sites where "all these NASA scientists mysteriously died young", but when you actually look at the cases hardly any worked for NASA and many of them died at a ripe old age.

Take the very first example in the video if Eugene Mallove. All kinds of conspiracy theories about his death, but the fact is that his books are still freely available - check Amazon. If "they" were trying to suppress the ideas in it they didn't do that good a job. These all powerful clever people can't manage to kill people quietly and efficiently without causing a fuss?

I'm talking about a situation like this (just a made up example). If she had just discovered a cure for alzhiemers or AIDS and was healthy, happily married with young children. Then a few months after her discovery she ends up dead (after being told not to release her findings), maybe by some kind of suicide (a method that is very rare with women, they tend to use certain ways to commit suicide and some ways are VERY rare - men are the same, there are ways that are almost never heard of men using to commit suicide). That is the type of circumstances that keep popping up around these people who make ground breaking discoveries.

Except they don't, and in your hypothetical example people are not suddenly going to stop getting HIV or Alzheimer's - the cure will make millions. She isn't going to be murdered.

There's another example someone suggests in another post claiming that people die suddenly by suicide despite never appearing to be outwardly depressed. I can cite numerous examples of famous successful people, the kind that the post claims just don't kill themselves, who did just that. Keith Flint, Gary Speed to name just two.

As another poster said, people die. It happens. Many thousands of people die unexpectedly in sometimes odd circumstances every day, but because they haven't done anything of note their deaths are not subject to minute scrutiny and hyperbolic claims of suspicious acts by "them". Unless, of course, they are all murdered to make it seem normal that scientists die when they discover something that threatens the status quo....

a reply to: DigginFoTroof


All the usual claims for a start the government in the UK makes more from tax on petrol/diesel than oil companies makes to many bs ideas on that video.

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: DigginFoTroof

A good friend of mine worked for the CDC and recently died.
She was young and vibrant, with kids and a husband.

From the outside it would appear that she died suddenly and mysteriously, and of course working for the CDC just
adds to the intrigue.

but..
To those of us that knew her, have known she was battling breast cancer for years.

sAD AND TO TRUE, BUT SOME OF THESE SCIENTISTS HANG THEMSELVES WITH THEIR HANDS TIED BEHIND THEIR BACKS.
SORRY HIT caps

Really? Which ones? Since you used the plural, please give several verifiable examples. Thanks.

originally posted by: schuyler
Really? Which ones? Since you used the plural, please give several verifiable examples. Thanks.

Ok hands behind their backs and similar unlikely deaths by suicide and accident. If you have not seen these you must not be on ATS much because many have been on here over the years also. Usually in spates like the banker deaths.

a reply to: DigginFoTroof

originally posted by: SeaWorthy

originally posted by: schuyler
Really? Which ones? Since you used the plural, please give several verifiable examples. Thanks.

Ok hands behind their backs and similar unlikely deaths by suicide and accident. If you have not seen these you must not be on ATS much because many have been on here over the years also. Usually in spates like the banker deaths.

Please cite verifiable examples. As you can see from my stats, I've been here quite a bit. Lots of people claim "X happened," but when it comes down to verifiable proof, they skirt the issue, as you are doing here.

originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: SeaWorthy

originally posted by: schuyler
Really? Which ones? Since you used the plural, please give several verifiable examples. Thanks.

Ok hands behind their backs and similar unlikely deaths by suicide and accident. If you have not seen these you must not be on ATS much because many have been on here over the years also. Usually in spates like the banker deaths.

Please cite verifiable examples. As you can see from my stats, I've been here quite a bit. Lots of people claim "X happened," but when it comes down to verifiable proof, they skirt the issue, as you are doing here.

Watch the video above provided as a one good example.
Honestly if you have interest you can find the cases easily enough, look into the Biollists and the computer scientists and even medical Drs groups of deaths like the group in the video about the middle.
Yes clearly you have been here and clearly you know what the Op is talking about.

"Theres a huge thread here on ATS about...."

When making claims about previous threads, wouldn't you think that a link to said threads would help the discussion enormously???

The Stonecutters claim to keep the electric car down near the end of this short vid, so maybe they are responsible for all the rest of this? There's something going on I tell ya!
You can skip the horowing initiation up front and skip to the telling song at 1:22. Apparently they hold back a lot of things from coming to fruition.