So bernie?

I put this in a political forum and not the mud pit for a reason. I dont want to discuss his socialistic policies as a pro or con. That would derail the topic.
This has more to do with his age and the direction of the Democrats in the future.

The Democrats are giving bernie sanders props apparently.

www.politico.com...

The article states he has democratic party support if he comes out of the crowded primary.

Now is this a result of trump winning against the wishes of the Republican party?
An outsider can win?
Or maybe a reflection of occasional kotex making headlines daily with her socialist leanings?
Do they sense a change toward socialism in their voter base?

And the last thing is his age.
Sanders would be 79 at the time of the 2020 election.
Reagan left office at 78 and he was reported to have memory issues his last few years.

Would you feel comfortable with someone that age being in charge? He would be 83 at the end of a first term.

I dont believe he will win the nomination but I've been wrong before.

Thoughts?

a reply to: Bluntone22

He would have won the Dem nomination in 2016, if Hillary hadn't knee-capped his campaign. Bernie is older and wiser now, so he shouldn't have a problem at all.

In fact, Sanders and Biden topped the IOWA straw-poll this past weekend.

a reply to: Bluntone22

Anyone who supports Bernie after he folded last time to Clinton's pressure deserves what they get.

Problem is, if enough people in enough states fall for the same bamboozle, the rest of the nation could suffer the consequences as well.

It has become very hard to lend credence to any poll after the 2016 elections.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Bluntone22

He would have won the Dem nomination in 2016, if Hillary hadn't knee-capped his campaign. Bernie is older and wiser now, so he shouldn't have a problem at all.

In fact, Sanders and Biden topped the IOWA straw-poll this past weekend.

They both have a "name recognition" advantage at this early point.

I also don't think the average Dem voter in Iowa bears any resemblance to the average Dem voter in California, or NY.

I don't see moderate dems, independants, or libertarians getting on board the socialist short bus. Just my opinion though.

a reply to: jadedANDcynical

I don't agree with his policies at all but his age is really a problem for me.
I go to McDonald's university some mornings and talk to 75 to 85 year old men and they all are in agreement that their minds just aren't as sharp as they used to be.

I'm on scholarship at MU....

Good coffee

If it wasn’t for the DNC and Hillary he would probably be sitting in the White House right now .

He was a viable candidate then with a lot of enthusiasm behind him . But the queen wanted her throne and the DNC bowed before her . The superdelegates finished the job of castrating Bernie and his campaign .

Now he is too old and it’s time to put the gelding to pasture .

Bernie still has a lot of support, but I think his age is a huge problem.

The reality is that the Democrats really don't have a good bench of candidates who are likable. Maybe Tulsi Gabbard, but I don't think the DNC elites really support her and since she isn't independently wealthy, she has little chance of winning.

His age is not appealing. However, for me, he shows no signs of slowing down mentally. He is consistent and sharp in his responses. Could that change tomorrow, yes. It could for Trump too, as he is getting up there. I would definitely hope for a young, but experience running mate if Bernie gets the nomination.

Bernie is wasting space.

What the left is going to become is what Cortez spews out on a daily basis.

A Sexist,Racist,Reagan hating, America hating Bigot.

Age is irrelevant.

And the kicker is we might see Cortez running against Trump in 2020.

The left has shown blatant disregard for that GD piece of paper.

illegals voting,16 year olds voting,abolition of the EC, State pacts.

Make no mistake.

We are in the fight of our lives at this moment.

originally posted by: headorheart
His age is not appealing. However, for me, he shows no signs of slowing down mentally. He is consistent and sharp in his responses. Could that change tomorrow, yes. It could for Trump too, as he is getting up there. I would definitely hope for a young, but experience running mate if Bernie gets the nomination.

I trump goes 8 years he will be the same age as bernie during the next election.

And I can tell you from experience that the mind can go fast. I watched a grandparent with dementia. The risk increases with age.

a reply to: neo96

And the kicker is we might see Cortez running against Trump in 2020.

I've seen this from people who I think should know better, but AOC will not be eligible due to the age requirement of the office of president.

There are those out there though, that say it just shouldn't matter and that the constitutional requirement is out dated:

Besides which, 29 (Ocasio-Cortez’s age) just honestly isn’t that young. People younger than that are routinely trusted with life-and-death situations in a huge array of contexts, ranging from parenting to military service.

The constitutional prohibition on people under the age of 35 serving as president is just one of these weird lacuna that was handed down to us from the 18th century but that nobody would seriously propose creating today if not for status quo bias. Realistically, most people that young would simply have a hard time winning an election. But if you can pull it off, you should be allowed. And I kind of think she should run for president.

It’s ridiculous that it’s unconstitutional for Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez to run for president

originally posted by: Mach2

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Bluntone22

He would have won the Dem nomination in 2016, if Hillary hadn't knee-capped his campaign. Bernie is older and wiser now, so he shouldn't have a problem at all.

In fact, Sanders and Biden topped the IOWA straw-poll this past weekend.

I don't see moderate dems, independants, or libertarians getting on board the socialist short bus. Just my opinion though.

Which declared Democrat candidate is viewed as a "moderate" ?

a reply to: jadedANDcynical

Illegals are not suppose to be voting.

The electoral college isn't suppose to be ignored.

What makes people think the age requirement to run for potus won't be?

a reply to: Bluntone22

If Bernie doesn't get beat down for capitulating to hillary and the dnc in 16 he may have a chance.
IMO he would have wiped the floor with trump in 16.
He was as much of a "change agent" as trump and would have attracted many to the polls and taken some from trump.

If he is asked about standing by and doing nothing while the dnc corruption took place he will be done.

a reply to: Bluntone22

I, unfortunately, too have seen the mind go quickly. I know it is a hot topic of debate right now with RBG. It is so hard to set limits since specific age is not directly related to mental competence. 75 looks very different on different people.

I guess my point was more so that Trump is almost certainly going to the Republican nominee. If Bernie turns out to be the Democrat nominee, there is not much difference between 72 and 77 for me.

Now if there were two candidates that I liked equally or close to equally, age could become a factor. Unfortunately, that is not the case this time around.

a reply to: Bluntone22

I as well question whether or not we want to elect some one of his age. I have gone so far as to have suggested the same thing about Trump, much of that based on my own observations of my own age and waning mental capacity.

I think that Bernie understands this as well and will not take the nomination even if he is ahead in the democrat polls. I think that he may use his support and influence with younger people to sway the nomination towards someone who he thinks will have the best support across the board to defeat Trump.

I do not think that that will be Cortez.

And speaking of Miss Cortez, I have noticed a new tendency here lately to use that pejorative play on her name and am disappointed in you personally for stooping to that level of conservative group think and ugliness.

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Mach2

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Bluntone22

He would have won the Dem nomination in 2016, if Hillary hadn't knee-capped his campaign. Bernie is older and wiser now, so he shouldn't have a problem at all.

In fact, Sanders and Biden topped the IOWA straw-poll this past weekend.

I don't see moderate dems, independants, or libertarians getting on board the socialist short bus. Just my opinion though.

Which declared Democrat candidate is viewed as a "moderate" ?

None, since Biden hasn't declared, but I was talking about voters, not candidates.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

I will stop referring to her as occasional kotex when I stop seeing trump referenced as the orange one or "tRump".

Dont hate the player, hate the game.

originally posted by: Edumakated
Bernie still has a lot of support, but I think his age is a huge problem.

The reality is that the Democrats really don't have a good bench of candidates who are likable. Maybe Tulsi Gabbard, but I don't think the DNC elites really support her and since she isn't independently wealthy, she has little chance of winning.

I do not think that the ''DNC'' elites are as monolithic as many think them to be, nor as stupid. Cocky yes, and certainly not as smart as they themselves think themselves to be. Clinton was proof of that. However I also think that loosing to Trump was a huge, and I mean HUGE slap in the face to them to 'wake the # up''.

To me, Gabbard would make a fine choice. Her stance on sexual persuasions has matured over the years and her earlier public statements I think can easily be set aside by all other than the most hard core. Her religion could easily be seen as a deterrent but to attack her on that front could be a very big hypocritical tactical blunder.

She wears her uniform proudly and has enough liberal leaning policies to attract the more liberal in the party and enough conservative cred to be attractive as an alternative to Trump.