Captain Marvel- Spoiler free

originally posted by: randomtangentsrme

originally posted by: DustybudzZ

originally posted by: randomtangentsrme

originally posted by: DustybudzZ

originally posted by: randomtangentsrme

originally posted by: DustybudzZ
My wife the kids and me are all big time MCU fans.

We went to see it today.
just got back from the theater actually lol

I gotta say though in my opinion it was probably the worst mcu movie to date.

Not because of all the PR BS and not because of who Brie Larson is as a person...

But first: I felt the move just didn't fit to well with the overall tone and story arc of the whole mcu

Second: kong and captain marvel are the only movies I have seen that star Larson and in my opinion she is simply a bad actress And in no way in my opinion can she fill the shoes of cap or iron man

Third: they copied so many things from other mcu moments don't want to spoil to much but copied thor the skulls looked like the dark elves copied a groot move and much more

Forth: jude law is a great actor in my opinion but gave the worse performance of his career in captain marvel

And finally the way they portray fury is a joke and the way he looses his eye? Wow

First: They are going cosmic- wanted to do so with GOTG 3. That went off with the James Gunn incident. So needed a new direction. So (imo) they pigeonholed it into this.

Second: I've not seen a lot of her as well, so I have no opinion there. I've seen better and I've seen worse.

Third: I was not impressed with the Skrull design and make-up as well. But the motivations were different than the dark elves.

Forth: The actors can only work with what they are given.

As for your final- It depends on your comic book lore.
This was a comic book heavy tie in.

Well GOTG vol3 is still happening with james gunns script as far as I understand
and yes they are going cosmic but they been doing that since the first GOTG
so thats not something new
and that dose not mean they will forget and abandoned the street level hero's they are still going to do both cosmic and street level just changing the story arc and ending a era

Edit: Technically the cosmic aspect came into play with the first thor so

I hope it does. No directer will touch it out of respect for Gunn. It will be a no show.
Agreed they will produce both- but the vibe has been to the cosmic (until they can include mutants).

Honestly I think if it came down to it Chris pratt would probably just make the decision to produce and direct GOTG vol3...

Lol he promised us so you know what he would probably say....

"Sure how hard can it be?"

Lmfao

The best solution without giving James credit is to say Sean Gunn is directing, but letting James do so. Or let James have success in DC before rehiring him.

Yep sounds about right

originally posted by: Metallicus

originally posted by: DustybudzZ

originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: DustybudzZ

Because even if the narrative leaned towards feminism and empowering women which is perfectly fine and good

You are completely right. It is perfectly fine and good, but I have no interest in supporting that agenda as it isn’t a priority of mine to be “woke”.

But just because people try to make it connected to the movie doesn't necessarily mean that agenda is directly connected to the movie itself

If it wasn’t part of an agenda then why did the Captain Marvel character receive a sex change?

I personally think it is just simply because marvel studios is trying to be as diverse as they can...

No big conspiracy no agenda...

They wanted a women LEAD superhero to have her own solo movie which has yet to be done in the mcu

You can't really argue the fact that they already have female superheroes in the mcu because none of them are actually lead roles with solo movies

Now if you had said it was unfair for the women version of captain marvel to get a solo movie before someone like black widow who has clearly earned it did,...
then I would agree with you

I just think they worked with what they had and wanted to introduce a lead female figure thats all nothing more

originally posted by: M5xaz
a reply to: randomtangentsrme

No, because I choose not to pander to a self-important narcissist misandric low-education actress like Brie Larson.

I'll wait for it to be in the 99 cent DVD bin at a dollar store...shouldn't be too long....

Edit:
Nah. Why pay for that trash....might watch it on putlocker for the (unintentional) laughs....

Um, mental health check over here please...

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: M5xaz
a reply to: randomtangentsrme

No, because I choose not to pander to a self-important narcissist misandric low-education actress like Brie Larson.

I'll wait for it to be in the 99 cent DVD bin at a dollar store...shouldn't be too long....

Edit:
Nah. Why pay for that trash....might watch it on putlocker for the (unintentional) laughs....

Um, mental health check over here please...

Yeah seems to be alot of mental health issues in the world today lol

originally posted by: randomtangentsrme
a reply to: M5xaz

I see you choose to base your entertainment on the news sources you believe to be true.

If you, like I, work in the same industry as Ms. Larson (performing arts), you would understand the push from the industry to try to be as "inclusive" as can be (or PC), that is being pushed right now because of various scandals in the news recently.

Honestly, your post shows a poor understanding of PR in a quickly changing landscape of media.

If you enjoy marvel movies, it's worth a look.
If you will not see the movie because of what you have been told, that's on you.

I understand PR very well and insulting your main fan base is definitely not good PR, only someone who has zero understanding of what PR is would say this has anything to do with PR.
Vitriolic virtue signalling is not PR

As a white male if my opinion on the movie isn’t wanted then as far as I’m concerned neither is my money, I too will wait for the DVD release or wait for it on YIFY

originally posted by: randomtangentsrme
a reply to: M5xaz

I see you choose to base your entertainment on the news sources you believe to be true.

If you, like I, work in the same industry as Ms. Larson (performing arts), you would understand the push from the industry to try to be as "inclusive" as can be (or PC), that is being pushed right now because of various scandals in the news recently.

Honestly, your post shows a poor understanding of PR in a quickly changing landscape of media.

If you enjoy marvel movies, it's worth a look.
If you will not see the movie because of what you have been told, that's on you.

I am with M5xaz
Last I want to do is support a divisive man hater like her, hope marvel cops it in the neck because of her
I believe they are working to a plan, the backlash against Gillette so fresh in everyone’s minds and then she leaches out her hate
Yeah, I don’t care if it’s a good movie, she puts me off wanting to see it based on my principles

Excuse me if that offends you but it’s my choice

The quote didn't work right but this is to the question before.

They went with Carol Danvers who took up the mantle of Captain marvel after being Ms Marvel for decades after The original died in the 70s. She became captain marvel in 2013 after AvX in the comics.

originally posted by: M5xaz
a reply to: randomtangentsrme

No, because I choose not to pander to a self-important narcissist misandric low-education actress like Brie Larson.

I'll wait for it to be in the 99 cent DVD bin at a dollar store...shouldn't be too long....

Edit:
Nah. Why pay for that trash....might watch it on putlocker for the (unintentional) laughs....

Sounding a bit bitter there, did a lil ole woman hurt your man pride. LOL.

This film is going to kill it at the box office, as solid an origin as Cap America and Thor and her importance to the rest of the Marvel film arc is apparent.

It wasn't as bad as some made it out to be, wasn't great either little slow at points. But I'm, not a fanboy either. First Marvel character I know nothing about, never read in comics so that was maybe some of it. Larson does an okay job and I did like seeing Fury and Coulson. Sadly do think some of the negative reviews were just blasting Brie Larson because nobody has learned when somebody says crap like that just ignore them. But then again I don't live or die on any of the MCU, SW or DC movies either its just entertainment to get lost in for a couple of hours.

That said LOL the one thing that was true LOL and because it was pointed out made me giggle every time, Captain Marvel cant run LOL, every time it looks when a three old is trying to pretend to be seriously running LOL.

originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: randomtangentsrme
a reply to: M5xaz

I see you choose to base your entertainment on the news sources you believe to be true.

If you, like I, work in the same industry as Ms. Larson (performing arts), you would understand the push from the industry to try to be as "inclusive" as can be (or PC), that is being pushed right now because of various scandals in the news recently.

Honestly, your post shows a poor understanding of PR in a quickly changing landscape of media.

If you enjoy marvel movies, it's worth a look.
If you will not see the movie because of what you have been told, that's on you.

I am with M5xaz
Last I want to do is support a divisive man hater like her, hope marvel cops it in the neck because of her
I believe they are working to a plan, the backlash against Gillette so fresh in everyone’s minds and then she leaches out her hate
Yeah, I don’t care if it’s a good movie, she puts me off wanting to see it based on my principles

Excuse me if that offends you but it’s my choice

Why are you so offended, it seems a woman hero has dented your manhood...

I've seen most of the MCU movies in the theatre.
Just most.

Not the hulk.
Nor. Spider-Man
Not dark world.
Not ant man 2.
Not black panther.
And captain marvel isn't happening either.

Red box for them all.
Honestly after finally waiting them all I felt I made a good choice.
I doubt captain marvel will be any different.

a reply to: randomtangentsrme

Well, my boy saw it with a young lady friend last night.

Yes, he went to see it with a young lady and not me, did a thread on it, I'm over it now (no I'm not) but anyway. . . .

The two 15 year-olds that I spoke with loved it.

They thought it was important to see before Infinity Wars II comes out.

They enjoyed it.

So . . . . .

Me and the bride will probably see it this afternoon.

a reply to: Raggedyman

Can you find me the quote where Brie Larson says she hates men?

Because I can't seem to find it.

a reply to: randomtangentsrme

I took my wife and 2 daughters to see the movie. They all loved the movie.

My thoughts without spoilers, the movie wasn't a huge spectacle. It was more along the lines of how the first Captain America movie was. It had some girl power moments but it didn't go overboard. There were some changes in the Kree - Skrull dynamic. Not sure how I feel about that. But we will see where it leads.

All in all I feel like the movie was good. Not the best that Marvel has put out. But good enough to watch. Oh and if you do go see it. Stay for 2 after scenes.

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: randomtangentsrme
a reply to: M5xaz

I see you choose to base your entertainment on the news sources you believe to be true.

If you, like I, work in the same industry as Ms. Larson (performing arts), you would understand the push from the industry to try to be as "inclusive" as can be (or PC), that is being pushed right now because of various scandals in the news recently.

Honestly, your post shows a poor understanding of PR in a quickly changing landscape of media.

If you enjoy marvel movies, it's worth a look.
If you will not see the movie because of what you have been told, that's on you.

I am with M5xaz
Last I want to do is support a divisive man hater like her, hope marvel cops it in the neck because of her
I believe they are working to a plan, the backlash against Gillette so fresh in everyone’s minds and then she leaches out her hate
Yeah, I don’t care if it’s a good movie, she puts me off wanting to see it based on my principles

Excuse me if that offends you but it’s my choice

Why are you so offended, it seems a woman hero has dented your manhood...

Is it my English, didI not spell ot out clearly, do you have comprehension issues?
I said that she is devisive, do you know that word?

A woman hero? Your standards are pretty low, she is an actress who pretends to be somebody on a tv show.
Has she saved anyone, fought for anyone other than herself or her own interests, she is a nobody pretending to be somebody else and she is a hero?
Your standards seem pretty low to me

Yes I was clear, she offends me, she is as described previously a misandrist, she causes hate, she is self serving an as an actor she has done nothing that would suggest I should respect her outside of pretend she is a hero

My money sweety, my choice what I spend it on.

originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: Raggedyman

Can you find me the quote where Brie Larson says she hates men?

Because I can't seem to find it.

No and I don’t care to
Go find it yourself or don’t
It changes nothing, the lady is irrelevant and I don’t want to watch a stupid marvel comic about a female captain marvel, it sounds lame

a reply to: DustybudzZ

Oh for Pete's sake! As a woman who enjoys the MCU, this reasoning pisses me off royally.

Why ignore all the already integrated strong females they already have in order to shoehorn this shemale?! I am mightily offended on behalf of Black Widow. In my opinion, she's actually the strongest woman in the entire MCU, but gets zero credit for it.

It's like they're saying a woman can't be powerful unless they are literally powerful and can literally overpower any man out there with Captain Marvel. Nice message when most real women know that doesn't actually happen often in real life. We women draw our strength in different ways and we can still be every bit as strong as men, and Black Widow is perfect for that.

She's the *normal* woman (relatively speaking) with super training and instincts who holds her own with the powerhouses. She's earned her place as a freakin' Avenger with that skillset. Even Steve Rogers has the super soldier serum backing him up. And does anyone ever suggest she doesn't belong? No. Why? Because they know she'd hand their asses to them if they did.

If they wanted a strong female lead for a movie, more people know about and are likely intrigued by the notion of a Black Widow movie. She's been a persistent presence in the MCU since the start.

They also have Scarlet Witch, Gamora, Nebula ... even Maria Hill, Fury's right hand. All of them are strong women.

But no ... we have to create a new character at the 11th hour and drop her in.

And if they go so far as to have her save the universe from Thanos in the second installment of Infinity Wars, I predict an MCU equivalent of the Mass Effect 3 endings controversy.

a reply to: ketsuko

I don't think you understand the history of Captain Marvel, she wasn't "created" in the 11th hour and has been a plan for the MCU for past decade. Don't believe all the misunderstood complaints, she has been a major character in the comics and cartoons for years now and have varying power levels but isn't out of place being next to Thor.

Also Widow is getting her own prequel film soon.

a reply to: SeenItBelieveIt

If she was a plan for the MCU, then they have a funny way of showing it. All the others were hinted at. All the others were teased.

Captain Marvel wasn't teased until this past movie unless you count some things that are spoilerish that I can't mention. They also created some pretty big plot craters surrounding events that happened with Fury's eye.

I don't want her showing up in the second to last movie and saving the day when all the other characters have more or less been there and been integrated. It's too deux ex machina.

If they wanted her in this, they should have integrated her like all the others. And they should have picked an actress and not a block of wood to portray her.

a reply to: ketsuko

She was hinted at in one of the first MCU movies.

Also do tell me where Guardians were hinted at... or Ant-Man before he arrived and they retconned having previous heroes work for Shield.

Or Panther and Wakanda just brought it for Civil War.

Or Spiderman once they got the rights.

Stop believing the cry babies about Captain Marvel, she's been around and popular for years.
She is one of the most powerful superheroes on Earth and was always going to get her own film. Don't listen to the "but but shes female" brigade