Neuroscientist Researching Brain Chips To Make People Superintelligent

originally posted by: neoholographic

originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: neoholographic

Having unlimited access to information in no way equates to actual intelligence.

What you DO with the information is what is important.

Is the chip going to process the information for you as well?

Not really.

So we will end up with functional idiots who are really good at Trivial Pursuit.

Yes it does because memory will be improved. Do people read what's being posted? Here's more from the DARPA study.

In a small test of 15 patients at Wake Forest Baptist Medical Center, this prosthetic memory system helped the patients improve their short-term memory by an average of 35 percent. According to lead study author Robert Hampson, a professor of physiology, pharmacology and neurology at Wake Forest School of Medicine in North Carolina, this degree of short-term memory improvement is "huge."

You combine this added memory with AI in the cloud and you have superintelligent humans.

No you really don't.

You have some people now who have a better short term memory.

That in no way equates to being "smarter".

All that means is they have a slightly higher memory retention.

Remembering things and knowing things in no way equates to actual intelligence.

Look at it this way... most of us in America now carry a mini-tablet with a phone app that is connected to the internet.

We have access to this 24/7.

We have at our fingertips trillions of facts, answers, how to do things.

What does the average person do with this incredible source of knowledge?

Watch porn, post pictures of their cats and fight with people they don't know.

Are we smarter as a civilization now with this amazing amount of knowledge at our fingertips?

No... I would argue that we are actually stupider.

originally posted by: BlueJacket
a reply to: neoholographic

I guess Ill be one of the ones in a cage eating bananas.

We can get cages next to each other!

a reply to: Lumenari

Yea i think comprehension and judgement are by far superior qualities than most.

originally posted by: neoholographic

originally posted by: snarfbot
a reply to: neoholographic

Would you consider those devices smart chips? The ones that were implanted into 80,000 people?

The last one would qualify, but that was a "small test of 15 patients" per your own quote, so where are the other 39,985?

Did you read what you just said? Of course their all smart chips. In many cases, you will not need to implant new chips just upgrade the chips that are already implanted. For instance, the DARPA test used people that already had implants for other medical reasons.

If you don't know that current implants can easily be turned into smart chips then you just don't understand the tech.

LOL I think you're the one who doesn't understand the tech. You are talking about a device that periodically stimulates a specific area of the brain to prevent tremors.

It's the brain equivalent to a pacemaker.

How can you "easily" turn that into a smart chip?

Just wait until these brain upgrades become a common thing and then they get hit by a computer virus. Suddenly thousands or millions of people become crazed serial killers. It's the Walking Dead with cyborgs.

It could be the biggest depopulation of the planet since the dinosaur killer asteroid 65 million years ago.

a reply to: Lumenari

It's hard to debate when you don't understand simple truths. You said:

Remembering things and knowing things in no way equates to actual intelligence.

Science disagrees with you.

Simple Memory Test Predicts Intelligence

The key to intelligence may be the ability to juggle multiple thoughts or memories at one time.

Researchers have found that a simple test of working memory capacity strongly predicts a person's performance on a battery of intelligence tests that measure everything from abstract problem-solving to social intelligence.

www.livescience.com...

originally posted by: UncleTomahawk
They are full of it!

There is a huge difference in information found on the web and actual intelligence.

I bet they will be good at porn though.

Too funny!

So will you be able to watch video? Send emails / texts?

I think it will happen eventually but five years seems a bit optimistic.

Isn't this concept kinda like singularity?

a reply to: MindBodySpiritComplex

We can only save ourselves.

No one is coming to help.

What happens when someone hacks into your brain? What about computer viruses in your brain?

Is this a surrender to design. I thought “over time” we will evolve into brighter super humans. So we can’t leave it up to random chance anymore. We must design and hold the hand of evolution through a new process. As long as flawed human beings are behind the design and guiding process what could go wrong.

originally posted by: BlueJacket
a reply to: neoholographic

I guess Ill be one of the ones in a cage eating bananas.

I'm kind of on your side.

I like who I am . And I understand that a major increase in my intelligence would change me so much that this version of me , the one I like, would be lost.

But If I had the chip put in while I was a baby then I wouldn't be able to imagine a "me" without super intelligence.

So what would happen if one of these chips were to short circuit? I can't see this working very well.

originally posted by: lostbook
What happens when someone hacks into your brain? What about computer viruses in your brain?

That's a good point.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: BlueJacket
a reply to: neoholographic

I guess Ill be one of the ones in a cage eating bananas.

We can get cages next to each other!

I worry about what super intelligence would do to my creativity. My flaws and foolishness feed the creative part of me.
And lets not forget social structures. I need to be a little dumb, how else could I relate to everyone else and make friends.

a reply to: jademegjosh

So what would happen if one of these chips were to short circuit? I can't see this working very well.

Mental illness strait from the nightmares of satan himself.

originally posted by: neoholographic
a reply to: Lumenari

It's hard to debate when you don't understand simple truths. You said:

Remembering things and knowing things in no way equates to actual intelligence.

Science disagrees with you.

Simple Memory Test Predicts Intelligence

The key to intelligence may be the ability to juggle multiple thoughts or memories at one time.

Researchers have found that a simple test of working memory capacity strongly predicts a person's performance on a battery of intelligence tests that measure everything from abstract problem-solving to social intelligence.

www.livescience.com...

I'm not debating you, I am using you to prove a point.

It isn't about how much you know.

It's what you can comprehend and what you DO with the knowledge that matters.

So thank you again for proving my point.

originally posted by: Observationalist
Is this a surrender to design. I thought “over time” we will evolve into brighter super humans. So we can’t leave it up to random chance anymore. We must design and hold the hand of evolution through a new process. As long as flawed human beings are behind the design and guiding process what could go wrong.

Without discipline the things we create will eventually lead to our de-evolution.

a reply to: neoholographic

Ghost in the Shell: SAC.

Watch that anime if you have not. Very prophetic.

originally posted by: neoholographic

originally posted by: lostbook
What happens when someone hacks into your brain? What about computer viruses in your brain?

That's a good point.

Thanks. Think about it. Besides what I have already mentioned, someone could hack into your brain and take control of your limbs. Then make you commit crimes for them.

originally posted by: 4891morfih

originally posted by: UncleTomahawk
They are full of it!

There is a huge difference in information found on the web and actual intelligence.

I bet they will be good at porn though.

Too funny!

So will you be able to watch video? Send emails / texts?

I think it will happen eventually but five years seems a bit optimistic.

Isn't this concept kinda like singularity?

It is very borgish and one worldish.

Imagine the capability to control all human knowledge by controlling what we have on the webz.

People feel that right now their rights are being violated and they are being censored by bohemians like facebook and such but people would literally be brain washed into whatever direction controllers wanted.