Bernie Sanders raked in $6 million in donations just 24 hours after announcing 2020 bid

originally posted by: toysforadults
As long as Republicans continue to maintain their mentality of me and me and screw you they will continue to lose support especially with the younger generation

Gen z will face dire poverty. As long as you continue to ignore their concerns they will turn you against

The right is it's own worst enemy

You made no such claim.
You pulled this right from your butt.

originally posted by: toysforadults
As long as Republicans continue to maintain their mentality of me and me and screw you they will continue to lose support especially with the younger generation

Gen z will face dire poverty. As long as you continue to ignore their concerns they will turn you against

The right is it's own worst enemy

And there Bernie sits with multiple houses and millions in the bank, despite being a career politician since the 70s after never holding down a private job.

And you say that 'the right' is the problem. You say the Republicans are the 'me and me and screw you' people.

Check your own back yard, friend.

Right, cause you’re assertion is that no one who is middle class should support social reform? So he’s got several houses. One is a one bedroom one bath. It’s not like he owns any mansions, and even if he did, he’s never said people shouldn’t own things, just that those who do should contribute their share. And he’s contributed a lifetime of service. He’s been arrested and abused for fighting for people’s rights. Have you? And please link any sources for his “millions in the banks”. He’s worth 700k. If you can’t support your aspersions with any data at all then there’s a word for that. Lying.

originally posted by: pexx421
So, 30% of Americans, that’s 100 million workers, make minimum wage.

Really? Bureaus of Labor Statistics disagrees with both your percentage number, and the overall number.

In 2017 it was more like 2.3% of workers aged 16 and over were earning the minimum wage - which, contrary to your ridiculous '100 million' claim, was only 542,000. So you were only off by more than an order of magnitude in your percentage estimate, but 2 1/2 orders of magnitude in your overall figure.

Methinks someone needs to learn how not to make a fool of themselves. Forgive me if I ignore the rest of your drivel seeing as it is all based on a false premise.

a reply to: tanstaafl

You’re right actually. And wrong. 3 million people make minimum wage or less. 30 million people make $10.10 an hour or less. I saw the statistic that almost 30% of workers were around minimum wage and I falsely extrapolated that to 30% of the us population, which is where I got 100 million. But in actuality only a portion of that is part of the workforce, a surprisingly small portion really. My bad. Apparently the work force is only about 157 million people or so?

a reply to: Look2theSacredHeart

This is so funny, you can see it from a mile away. The dems are worried sick that they've created a splintered field and now here comes bernie with a cult following (just like trump did to the republicans) and guess what, he's going to poll in the teens well before anyone else. Bernie is smarter than I gave him credit for. Then comes the dropouts of the low hanging fruit and they'll hop on the winner bandwagon and suddenly bernie is at 20% (but he'll never reach thirty, right?).

The reason this scares them is they know that america doesn't want this wackjob. That's why they snubbed him the first time. America will only go socialist if it happens behind a mask (as has been happening for 30 years). They know bernie equals trumps second term. But make no mistake, if they get the hint at all that he's going to win, they will go all in on bernie and begin covering up his socialist/communist roots.

a reply to: Teikiatsu

I just want to remind you guys, bernie was kicked out of a commune because he was lazy.

I said this in another thread. Sanders does not want to be president. He just wants to make sure that the Democrats are not elected in 2020. He might not like Trump but Trump never f'd him. The DNC did.

This is about revenge...and he will get it. No moderate democrats will mean they will be attacking each other like sharks in a feeding frenzy. I cannot wait to see how they eat each other alive.

That's cool n all but fundraising doesn't matter. If people want him, they have to go vote. Donations mean squat!

a reply to: Look2theSacredHeart

All the Socialists should run in the Socialist party. At least they will all have an excuse when Trump gets re-elected. Did you miss the story about 43 of 50 states polling as leaning or heavily conservative.

The only way Dims ever win is by cheating. They know that's what they will have to do to win.

the undoing of our system will be the result of people not listening to valid concerns over the direction our economy and culture has taken in the last 20-30 years

you are bringing this upon yourselves, you should take note

a reply to: toysforadults

What valid concerns might those be?

a reply to: Look2theSacredHeart

You're confusing the desire for free stuff with capacity for thought.

originally posted by: pexx421
a reply to: tanstaafl

You’re right actually. And wrong. 3 million people make minimum wage or less.

You're wrong actually. And incorrect.

Since you are directly contradicting the BLS numbers, it is on you to prove it.

BLS numbers - again - state 542,000 earn exactly the minimum, and 1.3 make less, totaling 1.8 million, not 3 million.

And how many of these are entry level unskilled jobs worked by teenagers or elderly people supplementing retirement income?

You do know that these kinds of entry level jobs are and never were intended to be relied upon by anyone to live a fully independent life, and certainly not to raise a family on?

30 million people make $10.10 an hour or less.

Unsubstantiated claims, much?

Again - proof, or you're just spewing nonsense.

I saw the statistic that almost 30% of workers were around minimum wage

Ditto.

and I falsely extrapolated that to 30% of the us population, which is where I got 100 million.

Thanks for at least admitting you were speaking about that which you knew nothing,

But in actuality only a portion of that is part of the workforce,

Seriously, you didn't even pause to consider the fact that newborn babies through age 16 are a pretty substantial part of the population, but (most of whom) were unlikely to be considered part of the workforce?

Maybe you shouldn't be engaging in discussions like these.

a surprisingly small portion really. My bad. Apparently the work force is only about 157 million people or so?

The BLS numbers say it is more like 80.4 million, so you're wrong again.

That’s the thing, d’fair. If you don’t know what those valid concerns are you are either oblivious, not paying attention, or brushing of the other sides words in your ideological, narrow focus. Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE has valid complaints. Black lives matter has valid complaints, the police kill 3.5 people daily, most often unarmed. Antifa has valid complaints, fascist forces are dominating the market with socialism for the rich and brutal lassez faire capitalism for the working class, and legislation all dictated by the corporation. The kkk has valid complaints with lax immigration laws and outsourcing destroying industrialized America, leading to inability of people in rural areas to make a decent living. The conservative base have valid complaints with loss of freedoms enacted from the patriot act and groups trying to attack gun rights. The democratic base has valid complaints with a declining standard of living and stagnant wages at a time when they are more productive and corporations are raking in record profits. Etc. To assume a whole group of people’s complaints are invalid is to be too locked into your own ideological echo chamber, and puts us right where tptb want us, divided.

originally posted by: toysforadults
As long as Republicans continue to maintain their mentality of me and me and screw you they will continue to lose support especially with the younger generation

Gen z will face dire poverty. As long as you continue to ignore their concerns they will turn you against

The right is it's own worst enemy

Why do you lefties always push democrat platforms off and blame them on Republicans? I honestly don't believe you could be that ignorant. Of course, I could be giving you too much credit as well.

originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: shooterbrody

Actually you are wrong have you ever been to California?

You are clueless. The entire supply chain bearing automation and tens of millions of jobs will be lost.

These kids are going to eat you alive.

I don't care if you listen or educate yourself on those issues because it's going to happen weather you believe it 9r not.

Time is my side.

Weather?

a reply to: tanstaafl

Here ya go tanst

www.google.com...

“After analyzing public-use microdata for 2013 from the Current Population Survey (the same monthly survey that underpins the BLS’s wage and employment reports), we estimate that last year about 20.6 million people — 30% of all hourly, non-self-employed workers 18 and older — are in that “near-minimum-wage” category. That includes 8.8 million people in states with minimums above $7.25, and 11.8 million in states where the federal rate applies.

This broader group of low-wage workers looks much like the approximately 3.3 million hourly workers who earned the federal minimum or less last year. (The $7.25 rate doesn’t apply to tipped workers and a few other categories.) Altogether, nearly 24 million workers would potentially benefit from a minimum-wage increase to $10.10.”

That’s from 2014 so it may be worse now, as you said.

Then there’s this

www.oxfamamerica.org...

And the only this one with graphs 1 and 7 from bls showing a pretty large amount of those making at or below minimum wage are 25 and older

www.bls.gov...

originally posted by: toysforadults
That's all they know how to do is comment on iPhones even though Apple lost 12 billion in iPhone sales last because no one can afford to buy them anymore

That probably has more to do with Apple releasing the iPhone 10 a month after all the Apple kids bought the iPhone 8.

originally posted by: Duderino
a reply to: Look2theSacredHeart

Bernie is the true anti-establishemnt, he's no joke. Neither the left, nor the right will have him or stand with him.

You want a true outsider this time? The Bern.

He's not an outsider. He's been a politician his entire adulthood. We elected a true outsider.