Yet ANOTHER Reason to Abolish the FBI

Honestly, I don't know where this post would fit best but let's start here - Mods, move please, if needed.


Everyone remembers over the last few years where the FBI had a person of interest then released that person only to find that the person killed others, right? We all remember this happening on numerous occasions. Right?

Seriously... Am I wrong here? Please say so if I am.

Now we're in a pickle because of the endless investigations to remove a rightfully elected PotUS from office, performed by the one and only FBI. What else could they possibly do to prove themselves completely worthless, bringing to the front more reasons to simply abolish the FBI?

I'm sure we can sit here and throw out point after point, instance after instance where the FBI TOTALLY and COMPLETELY shown themselves to be useless, pointless, incompetent and most of all, ANTI-USA. No?

Witt had been on the FBI’s radar at least a year before she defected after she attended an Iranian conference and appeared in anti-American videos. She was warned about her activities, but told agents that she would not provide sensitive information about her work if she returned to Iran, prosecutors say. She was not arrested at the time.

So what's this all about? Apparently, there was this intel official who had access to important "CLASSIFIED" information. This "official", or more accurately "former U.S. Air Force counterintelligence specialist" was wrapped up in a lot of anti-US activities and the FBI did some digging and didn't think she would be a problem.

But SHE SAID she wouldn't tell on us!!! She had a TOP SECRET SECURITY CLEARANCE!!

So she moved over to Iran and guess what? Yep, she leaked it all... Never saw that coming, did you? The FBI sure as hell didn't.

US says ex-intel official defected to Iran, revealed secrets

WASHINGTON (AP) — A former U.S. Air Force counterintelligence specialist who defected to Iran despite warnings from the FBI has been charged with revealing classified information to the Tehran government, including the code name and secret mission of a Pentagon program, prosecutors said.

The Justice Department also accused Monica Elfriede Witt, 39, of betraying former colleagues in the U.S. intelligence community by feeding details about their personal and professional lives to Iran. Four hackers linked to the Iranian government, charged in the same indictment, used that information to target the intelligence workers online, prosecutors said Wed.

Witt had been on the FBI’s radar AT LEAST A YEAR BEFORE she defected after she attended an Iranian conference and appeared in anti-American videos. She was warned about her activities, but told agents that she would not provide sensitive information about her work if she returned to Iran, prosecutors say. She was not arrested at the time.

This is the biggest screw up I have ever seen. Royal screw up. Major screw up. Just WOW. Everything is wrong with this picture...

“Once a holder of a top secret security clearance, Monica Witt actively sought opportunities to undermine the United States and support the government of Iran — a country which poses a serious threat to our national security,” said FBI executive assistant director Jay Tabb, the bureau’s top national security official.

Tabb said “she provided information that could cause serious damage to national security,” though he did not provide specifics.

But... But... They warned her.

she appeared in Iranian television videos in which she was identified as a former U.S. service member with critical views of America. She was then warned by FBI agents that she was a potential recruitment target for Iranian intelligence.

“She chose not to heed our warning that travel to Iran could potentially make her susceptible to recruitment,” Tabb said. “She continued to travel.”

Later that year, she was hired by an individual — who is not named in the indictment but who professed to have ties to high-level officials — to help in the filming of an anti-American propaganda commercial.

She returned to another conference in 2013 and remained in Iran. This time, with free housing and computer equipment, she went to work for the Iranians, supplying information about a classified Defense Department program and assembling into “target packages” research she conducted into the lives, locations and missions of former colleagues, the indictment said.

If you can find a better one... Please! I would love to hear it.

Why do we still have an FBI? They are about as useless as.... Hillary and Taxes! The only purpose they serve is to screw Americans over.

a reply to: StallionDuck

The fbi has been arresting and taking down child trafficking rings in record numbers the last five years and you want to get rid of them??

We should be thanking them.

Since their inception the FBI has been working towards their own ends and not those of the US populace.

Personally I find it hilarious (and very telling) that those on the Right suddenly want the FBI gone now that Hoover's influence is more or less gone.

It's fine if they want to assassinate MLK but if one of them doesn't like Trump they need to be finished!

a reply to: StallionDuck


Do you realize, how many attacks and other tragic events the FBI has prevented? You should look into things the FBI, have protected us from, before you judge.

a reply to: StallionDuck

lolz

The same people defending the FBI are the ones who want to abolish ICE.

lolz

a reply to: DBCowboy

To be fair I made a thread a while back calling out those on the Left for defending the FBI.

I am not very fond of the FBI. I would rather see the money spent on boosting our local and state police departments. The FBI seems to always try to get the big fish and leaves the little fish keep destroying everyone's lives, using the little fish to find the biggest fish out there.

Just bust the little guys, when the big guys cannot get anyone to work for them, they will leave the area and hopefully go to another country to do their business. The local police are not usually allowed to make arrests of big dealers without an FBI or upset person on site. This sucks, we should have nipped the meth labs in the butt many years ago instead of the cops not being able to touch anyone making meth till the upset or feds was around.

You mean like recruiting, training, arming, encouraging then arresting "terrorists"?

I don't think disbanding the FBI is the right answer. But a purge of leadership is probably needed.

The FBI does far more good than bad. No organization is perfect, it's pretty obvious they'll screw up from time to time.

In your example of the defector, there's a really important point you're either not focused on, or choosing to ignore:

Had she committed a crime prior to defecting? It isn't a crime to be in anti-american videos, freedom of speech and all that. Of course she was on the FBI's radar, but she had done nothing wrong (yet). What would you suggest they hold her for?

All they could legally do was give her a warning. Which is what they did. If they arrested her, that would've been illegal.

In that particular instance, they didn't screw up at all.

a reply to: scraedtosleep

Is that the only thing they're good for? What about national security? What about keeping the homeland safe?

Yes... Abolish and replace!

originally posted by: iplay1up2
a reply to: StallionDuck


Do you realize, how many attacks and other tragic events the FBI has prevented? You should look into things the FBI, have protected us from, before you judge.

And that excuses them how when it comes to obvious, blatant fails on a grand scale such as this, school shootings, bombings and so forth?

Do you know how big the FBI is? You know how much money we pump into them every year? ....and you're protecting these guys? Seriously?

What if they did the exact thing with a suspected terrorist and tomorrow that same terrorist sets off a nuke suitcase in the middle of manhattan? Would you say the same then?

Somehow I don't think so.

originally posted by: StallionDuck
a reply to: scraedtosleep

Is that the only thing they're good for? What about national security? What about keeping the homeland safe?

Yes... Abolish and replace!

Has the US been attacked by an outside force in the last 17ish years? Seems like they're doing a pretty good job.

Although, keeping the homeland safe would fall under the jurisdiction of the department with that word in the actual title...Department of Homeland Security.

And I can't help but point out, scaredtosleep said they're taking down a significant number of child trafficking rings, and you still say you want them abolished? That seems a bit heartless...

a reply to: StallionDuck

Here are a few things that would have happened without the FBI.

Fourth of July means big crowds in concentrated spaces, which unfortunately also means the conditions are ripe for a terrorist attack. This is allegedly what 48-year-old Ohio resident Demetrius N. Pitts was thinking before the FBI arrested him on Sunday for plotting to attack a holiday parade celebrating America’s independence in downtown Cleveland.

www.rollingstone.com...

The 26-year-old is charged with attempting to supply support to a foreign terrorist organization, specifically the Islamic State. According to FBI documents, he posted and liked pro-ISIS and pro-terrorism content on Facebook.

The suspect reportedly picked the Pier 39 location because he "had been there before and knew it was a heavily crowded area." He added that it would be easy to "funnel" people into an area where he could inflict casualties.

abc7news.com...

All the way back in 2013, 60 terrorist attacks had been stopped, because of but not limited to the FBI. That was 6 years ago.
www.heritage.org...
Still think the FBI, needs to go? Read the article I just gave you,

originally posted by: StallionDuck

originally posted by: iplay1up2
a reply to: StallionDuck


Do you realize, how many attacks and other tragic events the FBI has prevented? You should look into things the FBI, have protected us from, before you judge.

And that excuses them how when it comes to obvious, blatant fails on a grand scale such as this, school shootings, bombings and so forth?

Do you know how big the FBI is? You know how much money we pump into them every year? ....and you're protecting these guys? Seriously?

What if they did the exact thing with a suspected terrorist and tomorrow that same terrorist sets off a nuke suitcase in the middle of manhattan? Would you say the same then?

Somehow I don't think so.

She had done nothing illegal prior to defecting. What could they have legally done? What would you have liked them to do?

a reply to: narrator

Had she committed a crime prior to defecting? It isn't a crime to be in anti-american videos, freedom of speech and all that.

Wait... whaaaa???? It's ok to be anti-american with top SECURITY clearance for national security and it's not against the law?

Oh I'm QUITE certain there are limitations in the US Military that will say otherwise.

originally posted by: narrator

originally posted by: StallionDuck
a reply to: scraedtosleep

Is that the only thing they're good for? What about national security? What about keeping the homeland safe?

Yes... Abolish and replace!

Has the US been attacked by an outside force in the last 17ish years? Seems like they're doing a pretty good job.

Although, keeping the homeland safe would fall under the jurisdiction of the department with that word in the actual title...Department of Homeland Security.

And I can't help but point out, scaredtosleep said they're taking down a significant number of child trafficking rings, and you still say you want them abolished? That seems a bit heartless...

Outside? That's the CIA's job. Not the FBI. Duh...

originally posted by: StallionDuck
a reply to: narrator

Had she committed a crime prior to defecting? It isn't a crime to be in anti-american videos, freedom of speech and all that.

Wait... whaaaa???? It's ok to be anti-american with top SECURITY clearance for national security and it's not against the law?

Oh I'm QUITE certain there are limitations in the US Military that will say otherwise.

Again, freedom of speech. She plotted nothing, conspired against nothing, etc.
What did she do that was illegal? If there is a military statute (or something similar) that forbids freedom of speech, I'd like to see it.

originally posted by: StallionDuck

originally posted by: narrator

originally posted by: StallionDuck
a reply to: scraedtosleep

Is that the only thing they're good for? What about national security? What about keeping the homeland safe?

Yes... Abolish and replace!

Has the US been attacked by an outside force in the last 17ish years? Seems like they're doing a pretty good job.

Although, keeping the homeland safe would fall under the jurisdiction of the department with that word in the actual title...Department of Homeland Security.

And I can't help but point out, scaredtosleep said they're taking down a significant number of child trafficking rings, and you still say you want them abolished? That seems a bit heartless...

Outside? That's the CIA's job. Not the FBI. Duh...

What? What part of my quote are you talking about, I'm not following you.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Your wrong.

I do not want to abolish ice.

The FBI need to go back to their roots....


Strictly law enforcement.......leave the intelligence field to DHS.




The FBI changed drastically after 9/11........and not in a good way.