Drag Queen Story Time...

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: ketsuko


Men comedically dressed as women with names belittling women...seems reminiscent of White people comedically wearing blackface with names belittling African Americans.

The trans agenda is steadily erasing women and our rights in society, but since I'm just a white Christian woman and conservative, no one will listen to me until it's too late.

I'd like someone to explain the difference between Fishy Muffbasket and Al Jolson

The same difference as between Caitlyn Jenner and Bruce Jenner Olympic decathlete and any other transperson competing against real women in a sport.

originally posted by: CynConcepts
So what I gather from those who support drag queens reading to little kids is that they view it as simply an characterization so no harm, no foul?

Would you feel the same way if one was to dress in blackface characterization and have story time with your young children?

Are they not the same? Simple tricks of exaggerated make up and costumes acting out as a perceived stereotypical role play?

Edit add:
a reply to: IAMTAT
Just seen I am not alone in questioning the differences.

You make an excellent point.
HOW 'Enlightened & Progressive' would this museum be to have kids read fun and amusing stories by some wacky white guy in blackface, demeaningly-named 'Mr. Stepandfetchit'?

a reply to: Edumakated

All I can do is tell my son, "He can be anything he wants to be..."

Edumakated, I almost always agree with your p.o.v. But, I have to disagree with your above answer.

I am a firm believer that it is the parents' responsibility to guide children during the gender identity phase of development which usually starts in infancy around 7 months.

In today's world, it is getting harder and harder for them to naturally and organically understand who they are because of these wacked out signals from wacked out personalities.

Some parents are even allowing their child to choose their gender. That is a shirking of responsibility, and causing confusion which may lead to anxiety which may lead to dysphoria.

He may want to be Muffy Fish, a female, but in reality, he will never be female. He is a character acting like it's real, but it can never truly be real. Kids need direct and truthful explanations.

a reply to: argentus

I very much appreciate your comments, and they forced me to stop and think for a moment. So just a quick bit about me, I'm a professed Bible Man, grew up in a trailer park outside of Fort Worth Texas and then served 10 years in the Army. I have ingrained prejudice against homosexuals/drag queens/trans literally flowing through my blood, but I was never bothered by that. In fact, I have stood against intolerance even at the risk of my life (I jumped into 3 linebackers at a university gay bashing a guy once and took the beating in his stead). Now, however, I'm soooo pissed off at the gays and trans and their pushing all their bulls**t down own throats that I'm rapidly becoming the person that I was always so proud that I hadn't. The community itself is forming my emerging opinions and viewpoints. I just no longer trust them I suppose...

a reply to: queenofswords

QOS....technically Edumacated is most correct in regards to true drag Queens. They are not confused about their gender. They are men. They take pride in their acting ability. In the 90s, going to the Queens contests at adult clubs was a blast!

I even became friends with one guy. He was an awesome outgoing comedian, dancer and singer when he hid behind his wig and makeup. He was too shy, as himself, to do it otherwise. When his wife and him came over for visits, they were just average John and Jane doe.

It was simply an acting role that he could play quite well and actually only started due to an innocent bet with another couple. He discovered he enjoyed the challenge and found a way to be a star instead of his perceived boring desk clerk persona. Though, he did not prance about town and flaunt it...it was strictly the adult club scene only back then.

a reply to: CynConcepts

Actually, I was blending the drag queen guy with the transgender person in the last paragraph of the OP. But, even so, a toddler does not need to be around drag queens either. Once past puberty, if you want to be "entertained" by some guy dressing and acting female, go for it.

But, during developmental stages, keep this sh** away from them. They have enough things to be confused about.

a reply to: TheElectricPriest

The main lesson I have learned in life and that I try to instill now in my son is that we cannot live anyone else's life for them. Ultimately, that person has to choose for themselves. We all do things we shouldn't. You know this to be true if you're honest.

I have to let it go in the end. People will be who they will be, and aside from my son who is my responsibility to raise and shape until he's grown and takes over that responsibility for himself, it's not my job to control what they will and won't do for themselves in life. All I can do is control my own actions.

originally posted by: Bhadhidar
How would feel about taking the child to a production of “Peter Pan”?

Realizing of course that the role of Peter Pan, a boy “who never grows up”, is traditionally pkayed by a woman in “drag”.

Drag queens are “characters”, that is all you have to explain as a parent. Children will learn the “details” on their own, at their own pace; though what they decide about what they learn may not be what you expect.

Last time I told a drag queen they were a funny character, they trick to king hit me.

You're being a racist nazi, and a fascist.

a reply to: dug88

Nah, I don't want people with mental issues being anything near a role model to my kids. unless they are espousing their efforts to seek help, and that seeking that help is not a sign of weakness.

Otherwise, nope.. ever.

a reply to: TheElectricPriest

I completely understand your view. I don't really have a dog in this race other than I think all people are more the same than they are different. I think we all belong to each other in some way.

Your view seems to come from a strong sense of protection of your family, and I respect that.

I don't think anyone deserves to have their ass beat for being different. Apparently, you agree and good on you for standing tall.

We can all disagree and still live together. We don't have to swallow ANY bull# espouses by anyone, but the important thing -- to me at least -- is the concept that individuals are screwed up, but people as a group should not have to pay for the sins of the extreme folk in their group. Whites kill. Blacks kill. Browns kill. Those are the individuals. Those groups as a whole do not support murder. It is the same for the LGBT+. They just want to be not persecuted, and want the same rights as others enjoy under the law of the land.

If we can show our children tolerance, then we give them a powerful gift. We don't have to show them acceptance, just tolerance. Maybe, in turn, others will be tolerant of our differences, and down the road, nobody has to throw the first stone.

originally posted by: gallop
a reply to: dug88

Nah, I don't want people with mental issues being anything near a role model to my kids. unless they are espousing their efforts to seek help, and that seeking that help is not a sign of weakness.

Otherwise, nope.. ever.

Fair enough. I was just pointing out leaving young children with anyone that decides to name their character, persona, whatever, after some innuendo referring to their genitals would probably be a poor place to leave a kid regardless of whether they're a guy dressed like a girl or not.

a reply to: ketsuko

The trans agenda is steadily erasing women and our rights in society, but since I'm just a white Christian woman and conservative, no one will listen to me until it's too late.

OK Casandra - which rights are you about to lose?

How are you being erased?
_______________________________

I can only speak for my self - but I don't have anything to gain by bogarting femininity. It's a non issue - and I don't feel erased or less in any way

Some of the ladies who were most kind to me were transvestite - and trans

a reply to: argentus

Love that post

It's a journey and a struggle to become who we are - a gift if we can say we like ourselves

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: Boadicea


Funny thing is I didn't make that up, it's some 10 year old kid's actual drag name.

It's not a 10 year old kid. He's an adult. "The original Drag Broad telling late night kids stories at Camp Wannakiki"

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originally posted by: zosimov
a reply to: Edumakated

At least one teacher has been fired for having nude images of herself discovered by kids who (illegally) snatched her phone,

Pun intended?

originally posted by: TheOnlyBilko
It's not a 10 year old kid. He's an adult.

You're replying out of context. I'm not referring to the person mentioned in the Original Post.

THANK YOU. I'm not one to jump on the "poor oppressed women" bandwagon--quite the opposite--but I absolutely agree with you there.

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: ketsuko


Men comedically dressed as women with names belittling women...seems reminiscent of White people comedically wearing blackface with names belittling African Americans.

The trans agenda is steadily erasing women and our rights in society, but since I'm just a white Christian woman and conservative, no one will listen to me until it's too late.

And shockingly, even if you're a gay woman and part of the "LGBT community," your rights and your voice are STILL irrelevant.

a reply to: argentus

I'm all for tolerance. However, the issue that bothers me and that, at the risk of putting words in other people's mouths, I think is the root problem for most people up in arms over the "trans agenda," is that there's a big difference between tolerance and support. And while we're being told that we should be "tolerant," what we're expected to give, in practice, is actually support.

a reply to: Edumakated

WTF DID I JUST READ

wait i got pics !! a picture can say a thousand words dude







and thats me being polite