Actor Rob Lowe deletes 'chief' joke about Senator Elizabeth Warren...

Actor Rob Lowe deletes 'chief' joke about Senator Elizabeth Warren running for president from Twitter after backlash from other celebrities


How is chief offensive? We don't have chiefs in Indigenous tribes. We have elders. Chief is a European concept attributed to Indigenous elders. Ask most Indigenous people and they don't care about the word chief. They care that people don't understand that there aren't any chiefs...

Rob Lowe doesn't deserve punishment for this and, as an Indigenous person myself (Painted Feather Woodland), I found his jab to be on point. Warren tried to use a status that didn't belong to her in order to achieve a position of power and, as she's the first to try something like this, if she were elected, she WOULD redefine Commander in "Chief" because she would be a person who pretended to be an Indigenous person in order to became a "chief".

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He deserves everything he gets now, because he backed down!!!

Elizabeth Warren is a disgusting bigoted racist.

Rob Lowe was right to make jokes about her.

Teasing somebody for lying about their race is NOT even remotely related to ‘mocking’ said race. It’s mocking the racist, NOT the race.

Elizabeth Warren is a disgusting bigoted racist. Perfect democrat.

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I'm confused at your "chiefs" idea, since I personally know three prior chiefs and have voted for my chief of choice every Cherokee election for years....

Yes Virginia, Tribes do have Chiefs.

originally posted by: seeker1963
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He deserves everything he gets now, because he backed down!!!

That’s right.
He should have left it out there and doubled down on it with -
“Yeah I said it...if you don’t like it, too goddamn bad”

He must have received a "notice" 😁via the phony express

originally posted by: Breakthestreak
Elizabeth Warren is a disgusting bigoted racist.

Rob Lowe was right to make jokes about her.

Teasing somebody for lying about their race is NOT even remotely related to ‘mocking’ said race. It’s mocking the racist, NOT the race.

Elizabeth Warren is a disgusting bigoted racist. Perfect democrat.

That is the truth, in a nutshell.

How are they trying to throw these chains around everyone and expecting to get away with it?

Maybe he learned to be careful.

In 1988, Rob Lowe was involved in a scandal over a videotape of him having sex with two females, one of whom was 16. She was filmed with Lowe during the night before the Democratic National Convention in Atlanta. Lowe has asserted that he did not know that the second girl was underage. Lowe agreed to perform 20 hours of community service to avoid criminal charges. (Picture: Rob Lowe on October 25, 2011 in Doha, Qatar)

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I heard Elizabeth Warren wasn't offended by Rob Lowe's joke. In fact, she invited him over to her teepee for a friendly visit.

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In Elizabeth warren running for the commander in CHIEF position in 2020?

The 'left' may be getting a wee bit mental.

Our society is just about at the point where anything that is said by anyone will offend someone or some group.

Hello critical mass.

People can't take a harmless joke anymore. Lost all sense of humor, thin skinned ready to be outraged and triggered by almost anything.

Imagine if the great comedians performers and entertainers of the past (most dead and gone now) had to come to this time now, go on tour and try to come up with new material that doesn't offend anyone, in any way...

originally posted by: ausername
People can't take a harmless joke anymore. Lost all sense of humor, thin skinned ready to be outraged and triggered by almost anything.

Imagine if the great comedians performers and entertainers of the past (most dead and gone now) had to come to this time now, go on tour and try to come up with new material that doesn't offend anyone, in any way...

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As a small child, I spoke with a Cherokee Chief at the Eastern Reservation there in the Smokey Mountains. So yep, I have to agree here. An awkward conversation because small children are little bastards with their bluntness lacking the tact that fuller vocabulary grants, but he took the time to get me to explain that I didn’t see him as looking really any different than me and therefore “not really an Indian.”

Of course at the time I was unaware of my genetic make up and family history. But he pointed it out in a way that I would both understand at the time and always remember that conversation for the rest of my life. And that friends is the power of a good person in a well deserved position.

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Have there always been "chiefs" in the Cherokee nation? From my experience, there are only elders and sometimes a head elder, but "chief" isn't an indigenous term. It's been adopted by Indigenous tribes, yes, but it's used in the same way as it was in the beginning...a reference to the head elder and remains a European term.

originally posted by: wtfatta
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Have there always been "chiefs" in the Cherokee nation? From my experience, there are only elders and sometimes a head elder, but "chief" isn't an indigenous term. It's been adopted by Indigenous tribes, yes, but it's used in the same way as it was in the beginning...a reference to the head elder and remains a European term.

Ummmm, my preferred pronoun is Chief, and I identify as Cherokee!

originally posted by: wtfatta
a reply to: Lumenari

Have there always been "chiefs" in the Cherokee nation? From my experience, there are only elders and sometimes a head elder, but "chief" isn't an indigenous term. It's been adopted by Indigenous tribes, yes, but it's used in the same way as it was in the beginning...a reference to the head elder and remains a European term.

It's been around awhile...

The title of "Principal Chief" was created in 1794 when the Cherokee began to formalize a centralized political structure, forming the original Cherokee Nation.

My favorite chief that I have known personally was Wilma Mankiller.

She was amazing.

Check out the movie The Cherokee Word For Water.

originally posted by: SeaWorthy
Maybe he learned to be careful.

In 1988, Rob Lowe was involved in a scandal over a videotape of him having sex with two females, one of whom was 16. She was filmed with Lowe during the night before the Democratic National Convention in Atlanta. Lowe has asserted that he did not know that the second girl was underage. Lowe agreed to perform 20 hours of community service to avoid criminal charges. (Picture: Rob Lowe on October 25, 2011 in Doha, Qatar)

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Touche

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But was the word "chief" used to help the Europeans understand....or was "chief" the correct translation from the Cherokee dialect/language.
I guess I am wondering if the even IS a word for "chief" in Cherokee, or any other tribe language??

originally posted by: DontTreadOnMe
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But was the word "chief" used to help the Europeans understand....or was "chief" the correct translation from the Cherokee dialect/language.
I guess I am wondering if the even IS a word for "chief" in Cherokee, or any other tribe language??

I don't really know, actually.

The word for Chief to me means the same in English and Cherokee.

ᎤᎬᏫᏳᎯ

Roughly, leader.

I do know that way back, they had different leaders in our part of the Tribe.

There was a hunting/fishing leader (usually male) a farming/planting leader (usually female) and a war chief (usually male.)

Depending on the time of year and circumstances the appropriate one ran the Tribe.

But that was before Europeans.



Edited to add, a Cherokee Dikaneisdi (Word List) for you...

Cherokee word list