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originally posted by: JustMike
a reply to: graysquirrel
It's a fascinating-looking device. Kudos for putting in the considerable time and effort to construct it.
However, I can see issues with obtaining clear evidence of the desired effect as you have it set up. To begin with, I'd suggest you move the paper strip much closer to the outlet nozzle. Due to reduction of pressure per unit volume over distance and all that. When closer, any air flow from the nozzle will be easier to detect and harder to put down to errant drafts or even SHM of the paper strip due to minor vibrations induced into the support frame by any external application of force.
It would also be helpful (though time-consuming and more $$) to completely enclose the device and the test rig in a clear container. That would help to eliminate minor deviations to the paper strip due to those errant drafts. Or ok, just breathing in that general direction. Not saying you did or would breathe on it, just saying it could easily be argued as a denial of any actual effect.
Naturally you are also going to get the argument that this does not demonstrate free energy. Using hurricanes or tornadoes as an analogy is not very helpful in that regard, as they are fundamentally created by pressure differentials, which themselves ultimately derive from energy imbalances, mostly in the form of heat.
Related to that, it could be difficult to demonstrate that there is no heat/energy/air pressure imbalance in the room where you are testing. An enclosed device will help to deflect that argument, but not entirely.
It’s free energy perpetual motion.
Freudian slip?
As I eluded to in the OP
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: graysquirrel
Freudian slip?
As I eluded to in the OP
$fa = 1;
$fs = 0.4;
//***** 30 degree luver toroid part (center) ******
// ***** scale 10 = 1in. *****
print_correction_delta = .03;
module luvered_toroid_section(initial_rotation,total_rotation_ang,
pluse_minuse_45,outside_shell_delta,
luvers_inside_radius_delta,
luvers_outside_radius_delta)(CBL)
num_steps_for_30d = 75;
//***** rotate extrude the base 36.4 degrees *****
delta_angle = 30/num_steps_for_30d;
num_steps = num_steps_for_30d*total_rotation_ang/30;
delta_rotation = pluse_minuse_45/num_steps_for_30d;
for(step_num=[0:1:num_steps-1])(CBL)
rotate([0,0,step_num*delta_angle])
//**** rotate extrude a small secion *****
rotate_extrude(angle=1.1*delta_angle,convexity = 10)
translate([17.5,0,0])
//*** creat the luver base ***
union()(CBL)
difference ()(CBL)
Number_of_luvers = 8;
curve_radius = 4.55;
start_angle = 22 + initial_rotation+step_num*delta_rotation;
for(ang1=[start_angle:360/Number_of_luvers:start_angle+179])(CBL)
rotate([0,0,ang1])
translate([0,2.5,0])
rotate([0,0,60])
translate([-1*curve_radius,0,0])
difference ()(CBL)
circle(r=curve_radius+1/3.2+luvers_outside_radius_delta);
circle(r=curve_radius-1/3.2+luvers_inside_radius_delta);
rotate([0,0,-8])
translate([0,-5,0])
square(10, center=true);
rotate([0,0,-38])
translate([0,-5,0])
square(10, center=true);
(CBR)
(CBR)
//***** clear .5in dia center ***
circle($fn=50,d=5);
//** Trim the outside to 1.5 in. dia *****
difference ()(CBL)
circle(d=30);
circle(d=15-1.25-outside_shell_delta/8);
(CBR)
(CBR)
//*** Now add the outside shell ******
rotate([0,0,initial_rotation+step_num*delta_rotation])
union()(CBL)
difference()(CBL)
circle(d=16.25-outside_shell_delta);
circle(d=15-1.24);
translate([0,9-print_correction_delta,0])
square(18, center=true);
(CBR)
//** for bottom half comet form here to ******
//*** Now add the top tabs *****
// difference()(CBL)
// circle(d=16.25+1/.8-outside_shell_delta);
// circle(d=16.0);
// difference()(CBL)
// circle(d=16.25+print_correction_delta);
// translate([0,-9-print_correction_delta,0])
// square(18, center=true);
// (CBR)
// translate([0,-9-1.25,0])
// square(18, center=true);
// rotate([0,0,30])
// translate([5,5,0])
// square(10, center=true);
// rotate([0,0,-30])
// translate([-5,5,0])
// square(10, center=true);
// (CBR)
//****** to here **************************
(CBR)
(CBR)
(CBR)
(CBR)
//***** build the center part here *******
//*** use 0 for top and -180 for bottom part ***
top_bottom_select = -180;
rotate([90,0,0])
translate([-17.5,0,0])
union()(CBL)
difference()(CBL)
luvered_toroid_section(22.5+top_bottom_select,
6.45,-45,0,1/3.2+print_correction_delta,0);
//**** subtract out the bottom key notch ******
//*** for the bottom half change -7.5 to 7.5 ****
translate([17.5,0,7.5])
cube([1.25+2*print_correction_delta,2.5,1.28],
center=true);
(CBR)
rotate([0,0,6.45])
luvered_toroid_section(22.5+top_bottom_select-6.45*3/2,
3.6,-45,0,0,0);
rotate([0,0,10])
luvered_toroid_section(22.5+top_bottom_select-15,10,
0,0,0,0);
rotate([0,0,20])
luvered_toroid_section(22.5+top_bottom_select-15,
10.4,45,0,0,0);
rotate([0,0,30])
luvered_toroid_section(22.5+top_bottom_select,6.2,
45,2.5,0,-1/3.2-print_correction_delta);
//**** Add the top key ******
rotate([0,0,30])
//*** for the bottom half change -7.47 to 7.47 ****
translate([17.5,0,7.47])
cube([1.25-2*print_correction_delta,2.3,
1.25-2*print_correction_delta],center=true);
(CBR)
$fa = 1;
$fs = 0.4;
//***** 30 degree luver toroid part (side) ******
//***** scale 10 = 1in. ********
print_correction_delta = .03;
module luvered_toroid_section(initial_rotation,
total_rotation_ang,pluse_minuse_45,
outside_shell_delta,luvers_inside_radius_delta,
luvers_outside_radius_delta)(CBL)
num_steps_for_30d = 75;
//***** rotate extrude the base 36.4 degrees *****
delta_angle = 30/num_steps_for_30d;
num_steps = num_steps_for_30d*total_rotation_ang/30;
delta_rotation = pluse_minuse_45/num_steps_for_30d;
for(step_num=[0:1:num_steps-1])(CBL)
rotate([0,0,step_num*delta_angle])
//**** rotate extrude a small secion *****
rotate_extrude(angle=1.1*delta_angle,convexity = 10)
translate([17.5,0,0])
//*** creat the luver base ***
union()(CBL)
difference ()(CBL)
Number_of_luvers = 8;
curve_radius = 4.55;
start_angle = 22 + initial_rotation+step_num*
delta_rotation;
for(ang1=[start_angle:360/Number_of_luvers:
start_angle+179])(CBL)
rotate([0,0,ang1])
translate([0,2.5,0])
rotate([0,0,60])
translate([-1*curve_radius,0,0])
difference ()(CBL)
circle(r=curve_radius+1/3.2+
luvers_outside_radius_delta);
circle(r=curve_radius-1/3.2+
luvers_inside_radius_delta);
rotate([0,0,-8])
translate([0,-5,0])
square(10, center=true);
rotate([0,0,-38])
translate([0,-5,0])
square(10, center=true);
(CBR)
(CBR)
//***** clear .5in dia center ***
circle($fn=50,d=5);
//** Trim the outside to 1.5 in. dia *****
difference ()(CBL)
circle(d=30);
circle(d=15-1.25-outside_shell_delta/8);
(CBR)
(CBR)
//*** Now add the outside shell ******
rotate([0,0,initial_rotation+step_num*
delta_rotation])
union()(CBL)
difference()(CBL)
circle(d=16.25-outside_shell_delta);
circle(d=15-1.24);
translate([0,9-print_correction_delta,0])
square(18, center=true);
(CBR)
//** for bottom half comet form here to ******
//*** Now add the top tabs *****
// difference()(CBL)
// circle(d=16.25+1/.8-outside_shell_delta);
// circle(d=16.0);
// difference()(CBL)
// circle(d=16.25+print_correction_delta);
// translate([0,-9-print_correction_delta,0])
// square(18, center=true);
// (CBR)
// translate([0,-9-1.25,0])
// square(18, center=true);
// rotate([0,0,30])
// translate([5,5,0])
// square(10, center=true);
// rotate([0,0,-30])
// translate([-5,5,0])
// square(10, center=true);
// (CBR)
//****** to here **************************
(CBR)
(CBR)
(CBR)
(CBR)
//***** build the center part here *******
//*** use 0 for top and -180 for bottom part ***
top_bottom_select = -180;
//**** use 1 for left side and -1 for rite ***
left_rite_select = -1;
rotate([90,0,0])
translate([-17.5,0,0])
union()(CBL)
difference()(CBL)
luvered_toroid_section(left_rite_select*22.5+
top_bottom_select,6.45,-45*left_rite_select
,0,1/3.2+print_correction_delta,0);
//**** subtract out the bottom key notch ******
//*** for the bottom half change -7.5 to 7.5 ****
translate([17.5,0,7.5])
cube([1.25+2*print_correction_delta,2.5,1.28],
center=true);
(CBR)
rotate([0,0,6.45])
luvered_toroid_section(left_rite_select*(22.5+
top_bottom_select-6.45*3/2),30-6.4,-45*
left_rite_select,0,0,0);
rotate([0,0,30])
luvered_toroid_section(-22.5*left_rite_select+
top_bottom_select,6.2, -45*left_rite_select,2.5
,0,-1/3.2-print_correction_delta);
//**** Add the top key ******
rotate([0,0,30])
//*** for the bottom half change -7.47 to 7.47 ****
translate([17.5,0,7.47])
cube([1.25-2*print_correction_delta,2.3,1.25-2*
print_correction_delta],center=true);
(CBR)