Are Priests & Catholic Church the most Evil of them all?

a reply to: MisterSpock

Do those religions you mentioned still collect money and funnel it upwards? I'm sure to some degree they have to.

funnel it upwards where? the pope?, the catholic corporation?... no they don't, again with the ignorance.... none of them acknowledge the pope as having any type of authority whatsoever.

so ALL organized religion is just bad? all the time, no matter what. that such a simplton's view, miss me with that B/S. that's just your standard public school/ Leftist Hollywood conditioning showing. you been told religion is bad in every media since you were born, and it shows.

here let me spare you the reply: "but but but your just as brainwashed about your religion"

originally posted by: smkymcnugget420
a reply to: MisterSpock

Do those religions you mentioned still collect money and funnel it upwards? I'm sure to some degree they have to.

funnel it upwards where? the pope?, the catholic corporation?... no they don't, again with the ignorance.... none of them acknowledge the pope as having any type of authority whatsoever.

so ALL organized religion is just bad? all the time, no matter what. that such a simplton's view, miss me with that B/S. that's just your standard public school/ Leftist Hollywood conditioning showing. you been told religion is bad in every media since you were born, and it shows.

here let me spare you the reply: "but but but your just as brainwashed about your religion"

For clarification, I find all types of organized institutional thought to be a negative thing. Whether that be religion, cults, political or just about anything that gathers people together and restricts them to a certain scope of thought.

Just wanted to clarify that, the rest of your post isn't worth the few bytes it takes up on the ATS server.

originally posted by: JAGStorm


Yes there are pedofiles everywhere, but they sure do seem to be concentrated within the Catholic religion. Wonder if some of those pedofile coaches are Catholic too.

Maybe it is the whole thing about confession. They feel they can do bad things and just confess it away?

Did you read my post? They are concentrated ANYWHERE they can assume power of authority over children. You just do not hear about the others as much, but they are there. They do not see it as wrong so why confess? As example some parts of the Middle East it is OK to have sex with little boys on Thursday since they are cleansed each week on Friday of past acts. Coach, social worker, school counselor, psychologist, doctor, daycare worker so on and so on, it doesn't matter.

a reply to: Xtrozero

I did read it and I think you are wrong.

www.patheos.com...
Are Catholic Clergy more Likely to Be Paedophiles than the General Public?
"The thing is, the claims look to be wrong. The Royal Commission is now clearly showing that the rate for priests is considerably higher, and this is perhaps the most robust study to date. But even a good analysis of previous data appears to show the clergy significantly higher than the general population."

I love how a lot of the studies of Catholic priests are done by the Catholic Church, again the Fox guarding the hen house!

Again, this is still ongoing, so right now we only have our opinions, but soon, there will be fact.


www.ydr.com...
"The Catholic lobbyists had plenty of money. They spent $3 million in Pennsylvania from January 2014 to June 2018, as lawmakers considered legislation that would change or extend when victims could sue their abusers. That total will grow once new expense reports are filed by an Oct. 30 deadline.

The lobbyists contend the church should not be held financially accountable for priest abuse or its cover-up. If the Catholic church is sued, secret files and private documents could be made public. And insurance companies, which have already paid millions in private settlements, might have to pay much more for the church’s liability as new cases are brought forth."

edit on 6-2-2019 by JAGStorm because: (no reason given)

a reply to: smkymcnugget420

The catholic church and Islam have quite a but in,common when it comes to raping kids.

Facts do not equal hate.

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: Xtrozero

I did read it and I think you are wrong.

Are Catholic Clergy more Likely to Be Paedophiles than the General Public?

lol are you kidding me? Look at that line...

That was my point...you read, but do not understand. Any position of power over children will draw pedophiles at a higher rates than the norm. So if the norm is lets say 2% we might be talking 5% here, so that means 95% are not.

a reply to: JAGStorm

The concept that the church is somehow morally better than the rest of humanity is outright false.

They are as human as the next person. Some of them are serial killers, kleptomaniacs, pedophiles, perverts and such because they are just like the rest of humanity. Some of them are good, or trying to be.

Jesus didn't come to create a group who would look down their noses at the rest of humanity, He came for the wrongdoers (the sinners) to forgive and to help them repent (change their ways).

The mindset that the church is somehow 'better than the rest' has allowed for some offenders to escape the consequence of their wrongdoing. Thank goodness the Pope and other church leaders are 'draining the swamp' and changing the culture to expose these threats to 'all that is good'.

a reply to: JAGStorm

I work with them, you do not know the half of it.

originally posted by: MAC269
a reply to: JAGStorm

I work with them, you do not know the half of it.

Why do you work ‘with’ them if they are so bad ? 🤔🤷🏻‍♀️😒

These Catholic bashing threads are so popular on ATS we should have a forum just for them. Would easily have as many posts as most of the other forums. Maybe we could expand it to all hate for Christianity posts.

I don't really believe there is anything wrong with the church that couldn't be fixed by another inquisition.

Just stating the obvious.

Create a problem, introduce a (Final) Solution, allow the clueless public to agree with the marvelous idea and force the solution down everyones throats.

So:-
1) Make the current clergy look evil through real events and assumptions. Half of them are Pure Evil anyway.
2) NWO says "Lock them all up"
3) The General Public agree with the amazing idea.
4) All Old World Order (OWO) priests get locked up or hanged in the street.
5) NWO imposes its own "good" priests onto the clueless public.
6) General public actually trusts the NWO One World Religion priests. Merger of ALL OWO religions.

The public hasn't got a freaking clue as to what is coming down the pipe. Similar to MAGA assuming that Trump is Mr Amazing guy, yet he is nothing more than the same NWO system.

a reply to: Rapha

This already happened to the Catholics in the 60's. That is if by NWO you mean masons, communists, atheists, and homosexuals. The OWO priests weren't hanged but just driven out of the church. Merger of OWO religions never happened.

The mass was changed after Vatican II to have a more masonic quality. Social Marxism and communism grew more popular especially in South America and the homosexuals brought in their friends to the point where they form a large voting bloc within the Vatican today. There are many atheistic priests now who view the church as primarily a social organization for the purpose of running charities, schools, hospitals, child care, etc. and just helping members through the day to day events like funerals. This synchs up with the influence of women who, despite not being priests are nevertheless very influential. They view the main purpose of the church as to aid them in raising children.

So the church still does much good despite the degenerate clergy. Probably the only way the church will ever heal itself is to wait until the current bunch of priests dies.

originally posted by: toms54
Probably the only way the church will ever heal itself is to wait until the current bunch of priests dies.

Correct: When they are all vaporised on that Day when YAHUSHUA returns on the battle fields of Meggido, then and only then will this world be a better, more perfect place to live in.

Problem: How will the pure good hearted souls live alongside repented pure evil souls ? There are some dark spirits from the dark worlds like Tartarus where the rephaim exist that want to repent in the name of Yahushua. However, will those guys ever be allowed to live amongst the humans ?

How about the fallen watchers (pointy ear Spocks - elves) who might also want to turn back to Yahushua. Hollywood is setting the stage with films like "Bright" for this exact scenario.

Addon
Maybe blending in with the 197 fallen watchers is part of the NWO. But once fallen can they ever be trusted again ?

a reply to: Rapha

If they actually did repent, we wouldn't have much of a problem.

a reply to: Sheye

To protect the orphaned children from them.

originally posted by: MAC269
a reply to: Sheye

To protect the orphaned children from them.

I’m assuming you work in an orphanage ? How exactly do you protect them ? Do you get law enforcement involved ?

originally posted by: Rapha
Just stating the obvious.

Create a problem, introduce a (Final) Solution, allow the clueless public to agree with the marvelous idea and force the solution down everyones throats.

So:-
1) Make the current clergy look evil through real events and assumptions. Half of them are Pure Evil anyway.
2) NWO says "Lock them all up"
3) The General Public agree with the amazing idea.
4) All Old World Order (OWO) priests get locked up or hanged in the street.
5) NWO imposes its own "good" priests onto the clueless public.
6) General public actually trusts the NWO One World Religion priests. Merger of ALL OWO religions.

The public hasn't got a freaking clue as to what is coming down the pipe. Similar to MAGA assuming that Trump is Mr Amazing guy, yet he is nothing more than the same NWO system.

I think the public in general is sick of priests. So I don't think there would be a step 5 or 6.

a reply to: Sheye

Law enforcement is ineffective in this country especially for a foreigner.
Anyway in many cases this would be counter effective, possibly getting the place shut down. Then what would happen to them. There are not so many places that can give the care effectively that these kids need.

I help protect them by being here and watching as best I can. If I should find something that is untoward it goes up the line by email. This is to hopefully people who can help.

a reply to: MAC269

Thank you for keeping an eye out for the children and doing the best you can under the circumstances.

a reply to: Sheye

thanks for the thanks

The big problem with the Priesthood is they are all brothers and even the good ones will end up protecting the down right evil ones.

They get found out and they get moved not to protect those in their care but to protect the Church.