The Roman Catholic Church has less spiritual credibility than a brothel

Hey Mr Pope,

I haver zero respect left for the Roman Cathoilic Church. Sorry, Major Tom, but you didn't make the grade. Take a long hard look at what you are now and what you have been through all of history.

You're the crooked cross, you crooks. You chose right there. You disgust me. You are like the worst monsters on the planet pretending to be the holiest. Why bother having any pretence at worshipping the G-D of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob when you dare to behave so profanely before HIM? You are in big trouble for sure. Now your judgement is upon you for all the abominations you have brought on the earth, you sick puppy.

Guys, look at how they behave:

Nuns as sex slaves, child abusing rapist priests, Vatican bank doing deals with Saudi Arabia (money, not spiritual stuff at all), the Inquisition, burning of all the women as witches, pretending to bring life but giving death entry to all the indigenous people of the earth (letting the colonizers and slave traders in under the guise of missions), capitulating with Hitler, Mussolini, now China, on and on their evil stretches.

Let me tell you Western nations. You better bring the law upon them because we are all watching. They must be investigated and held to account. If you do not then G-D surely will do it for you and HE will look at you with the same EYE IN THE SKY for being so corrupt you can't even uphold basic law.

I woke up this morning feeling so disgusted with the Roman Catholic Church. You know at the beginning of Revelation where Jesus curses them for their iniquities? I see how clearly He was right about that.

We are in serious trouble. That is why we are beginning to fall. I see all the signs. This is as serious as it gets. All hell will come to us if we carry on like this. I see only doom and can't even be bothered with this any more. Yeah, I have a bit of fun in my own life, innocent fun, to pass the hours as I watch death riding into town, but it is no longer worth putting any effort in to this corrupt thing. It is casting our pearls before swine.

I honestly see no hope because we are moving in the wrong direction faster and faster. The elite are heaping their own demise upon themselves. It will be they who fall furthest. Believe it there is nowhere to fall when you are at the bottom of their hierarchy. You know who they are and what they are when you are there. When you are vulnerable and abused you know who the devil is then.

I will never be able to respect the Roman Catholic Church again in my life time for what it has done. May be a good idea, Mr Pope, is for you lot to get it sorted before your Master returns. He will surely cast you into the Lake of Fire if He finds you like this. You are worse than the worst pagans you sorcerors perverted instead of converted.

If I was you guys I would be quaking at the knees and #ing myself for what is coming upon me. I have seen what is coming upon you. It has already begun. You have zero spiritual credibility left. Everyone just looks at you like a Nazi capitulating, sex abusing pedo, slave trading, torturing Demon pretending to be holy. You seem to have forgotten you are accountable to the Father, the G-D of Abraham if you call on Jesus' Name. May I encourage you to read Revelation and the OT Judgements on Israel to clearly understand what G-D does to those who abuse HIM, because that is what you are doing big time.

Jesus warned clearly not to abuse the children. He said it would be better that you have a millstone tied around you and sunk to the bottom of the ocean. This is not some hocus pocus. This is the real deal. It will happen. Oh my G-D what have you done???

a reply to: Malak777

"Judge not lest you be judged in kind."

I've had the pleasure to work as a musician involved in the politics of many Christian denominations.
I do say pleasure, as I have enjoyed bringing joy to many different denominations through musical ministry.
Which means I've also heard the teachings.

Catholics far outshine the others. From what I've seen and heard.

After 20 years of service, I can say. Organized religion should not be funded. Organized religion needs to be done away with. It is all nasty, hate filled, and bigoted.

The big difference is this Pope is actually telling hard truths. I wish the other denominations would follow suit.

a reply to: Malak777


I don't think the Pope has an ATS account. Here is an address you can try:

His Holiness, Pope Francis
Apostolic Palace
00120 Vatican City

Notice that neither “Italy” nor “Rome” are a part of the address, since Vatican City is its own country.

See this page:How to Send the Pope a Letter – And Why You Might Get a Response!

The two key principles here are brevity and respect.

You need to show respect for both Pope Francis and the office of the papacy, which was established by Christ himself. This means using his official address of “His Holiness.”

Brevity is important simply because he gets a lot of mail. If you want him or his workers to actually read what you have to say, make it short and to the point.

a reply to: Malak777

I can vouch for brothels. Well Amsterdam mainly. It was truly a spiritual experiencd and I felt I helped the poor.

originally posted by: randomtangentsrme
a reply to: Malak777

"Judge not lest you be judged in kind."

It is absolutely right to call out an organization, or the people at the top of the organization, for allowing the systematic molestation of children for decades. This is the wrong situation to apply that verse. I think God would be ok with a person calling out someone for the abuse of children.

I am just curious why you are afraid to spell out the word God?

originally posted by: KansasGirl

originally posted by: randomtangentsrme
a reply to: Malak777

"Judge not lest you be judged in kind."

It is absolutely right to call out an organization, or the people at the top of the organization, for allowing the systematic molestation of children for decades. This is the wrong situation to apply that verse. I think God would be ok with a person calling out someone for the abuse of children.

Exactly, i would be colluding if I did not call them out. Bless you big time. We can't let them offend like this. It is insane. The whole thiung is falling down because they kept it hush hush. All through history they have been like this.

to those naive enough to only believe the appearance of that churchg and not its reality I say have you not studied history? Do you not read the news? You are blind.

I have not judged anybody, have I? Anyone who says I have is a liar. I am pointing out what their natrure is and how I would find better spiritual discipline ion a brothel which is true. Brothels don't pretend to be spiritual. At least they are honest about what they do.

I will not even attend any church until I am assured the law is protecting us from them. They have no credibility left with me and G-D is not telling me different. I pray quietly at home and study like Daniel as my G-D isn't bothered about all that crap. He sees and hears in secret and rewards in secret too.

This charade is finished if it carries on like this. Thank you for being a witness for me and our G-D. Don't worry, they are in big trouble for what they have done.

originally posted by: Metallicus
I am just curious why you are afraid to spell out the word God?

It is out of respect for any Jews who might read so they know that I am considering them and respecting them. If there were no Jews I would be happy to use the whole word. However, I totally respect Jews as the Olive Tree from where my own faith came (Jesus was a Torah Jew). I have prayed at the Wall with the Jews. I pray to the same G-D.

I am interested why you don't give a hoot about the subject matter and are more interested in my use of the word for G-D? I have just told you an institution has been mashing the West through all of history, how it is has abused the woemn and children of your own nation. Why are you noty so bothered about that/ Please inform us how you feel about that. This might be a good opportunbity to do so, mightn't it?

Or are you more interested in picking some lame argument with me over a word when the subject is so apparent and in your face?

You see, for a Jew it is an ugly and pagan thing when they see the whole name of G-D written. I would be a total ignorant person if, knowing this, I still offended them. I am also wanting to build bridges with Israel culturally for the sake of Israel and the West. That is my whole ethos. It is something I believe Jesus would now want as He has shown me through certain visions during the fifty plus years of my life.

I am just a true believer who can't stand seeing my Lord's name dragged through their trash like this. It shall not go uncommented on and I will inform them of what happens to those who abuse, based on my spiritual and historical understanding of history, if you get my drift?

Often it's the bolt hole of the intellectually stifled to concentrate on the wart on someone's face rather then the face itself. The Catholic Church has a bloody history and has some serious problems with perverts in its ranks, but that should not detract from some of the good the Church does. Give the current Pope a bit of credit for trying to get his house in order. But of the millions of Catholics and thousands of priests there will always be bad apples.

The same applies for other organised religions, by the way. Islam has some serious problems (I have a very long list), but I have a member of staff who is a devote Muslim and think she's fundamentally a good person who is shocked by the deeds carried out in her religion's name.

a reply to: paraphi


I'm sory, but the crimes are too serious for that.

It is wholesale and universal through the Church. With most people it is finished I would say. Nobody I know has anything good to say about it.

We have to get real. We can't keep allowing the Church to ABUSE CHILDREN and WOMEN as well as using its status as a bank and going off making business deals with Saudi Arabia and China, pretending to be the Rock of Peter. It certainly has no resemblance to that great man and Saint.

This Pope is up to the same old tricks. Their tyranny is only just beginning in China. Look it up and see for yourself. If you want to keep respecting this filth that's up to you, but I am up to here with it and I expect G-D is too.

People must be so well deluded if they can keep covering up for this abuse of their children and women. Do you know just how big and universal it is and how long it has been going on for? If you keep covering up for it you are are a party to their crimes. These are crimes by the laws of our nations and they must be accounted for. Do they now not even have any respect left for law?

You watch what happens. This is all very real.

a reply to: paraphi

www.bbc.co.uk...

Pope admits clerical abuse of nuns including sexual slavery

Pope Francis has admitted that clerics have sexually abused nuns, and in one case they were kept as sex slaves. He said in that case his predecessor, Pope Benedict, was forced to shut down an entire congregation of nuns who were being abused by priests. It is thought to be the first time that Pope Francis has acknowledged the sexual abuse of nuns by the clergy. He said the Church was attempting to address the problem but said it was "still going on".

That is the BBC saying it, not some fake news site. IT is REAL! Do you all understand?

It is "still going on"!!! STILL GOING ON!

It's over if it carries on like this.

The Pope STILL will not let women in the priesthood. I would and do. I love the women Methodist Ministers. They are just as up to the job as men. Jesus anticipated this by appearing to Mary before even any of the other Apostles.

It ain't Jesus doing that to those women and children. It is ugly corrupted little men pedos pretending to be priests. They have all those riches and all that pomp yet they are less than nothing in terms of spiritual treasure. How can G-D's blessing come from a pedo? Are you not understanding why corruption matters everywhere? It is the worm that destroys the whole structure, do you see?

No way am I gonna go to a pedo for a blessing from G-D, lol. Just think of all those people who have and do, then keep excusing him for his vile acts. What is wrong with them? I will not go near a Church of any kind, not even the Methodists until I am sure they are clean enough for me to get a blessing from G-D there. We don't go to the sewers to bathe now do we?

The Pope has been ordained for approx 60 years. As such he will have been aware

of the abuse of young (altar boys, orphans and others ALL THAT TIME and yes since

he became Pope six years ago he has called it out...but what has he actually done

about it? No prosecutions or sentences being handed out as far as I can see, just

the moving of the guilty from one diocise to another where they are able to carry

on again.


The latest abuse of the Nuns being used and abused by priests, which comes as no

surprise ...... why has it taken him six years to call it out, He would have had more

credibility if he had come in and cleaned house immediately.

Are all those found guilty going to be punished or disbarred?? Or is it going to be as

it always has been just *swept under the carpet* and moved away?

Is justice going to be seen to get done.

originally posted by: Malak777
We have to get real. We can't keep allowing the Church to ABUSE CHILDREN and WOMEN ...

The Church does not abuse people. People within the Church have used the Church as a cover to abuse people. It's true that the Church authorities have been complicit, or have turned a blind eye, but does that invalidate the whole religion? Clearly, in your mind it does.

Part of the Catholic Church addressing this problem and the Pope is at least trying.

originally posted by: Malak777
The Pope STILL will not let women in the priesthood.

That's another issue entirely.

a reply to: Malak777


NOTE TO SELF:

Yes, their church does some good acts. Pedos give sweets to kids and let them stroke puppies!

I will be watching very closely from now on. I will be expecting the laws of each nation where the Catholics are present, who have committed these crimes against the women and children of those nations, to be applied. If they are not then we know we are corrupt and lawless even to the point of allowing our women and children to be abused by institutions and surely our fate will be that of just another Dorian Gray portrait at best. Doesn't matter how pretty it looks on the outside. That never spoke anything about goodness, true nature, intent and integrity did it? What is the point of having Michelangelo paint your ceiling if you are going to abuse a woman or child under it. See now?

My whole existence is being tarnished by all this crap because I am a caring and sensitive human being. The suffering of others matters to me and it affects me. What I have witnessed on this earth makes it impossible for me to live any normal kind of existence. I am cornered and have to make do as I attempt to avoid the whole corrupt shebang. It will never get anything from me right now because that would be an utter waste as it stands. It is like trying to give mouth to mouth to a corpse with rigor mortis. Ho ho, stiffness of death! If you had seen a male on the slab being cut up as part of your medical training as I have then you would understand the humour of this.

Yes, you priests! You are just another "stiffy" for the slab if you behave like this you nasty little pervs! No amount of pomp and ceremony can hide you horrid deeds from the Almighty. Did you not read, you who are supposed to be experts on the Word, that there is "NO HIDING PLACE FROM THE FATHER OF CREATION"? Isn't that right, as you are now discovering.

a reply to: Malak777

I personally know a few monks, nuns and priests and they're all nice and good people.
I don't know what God you're answering to, but if yours points with broad brushes and tells you hate and self-righteously judging others is the way to go, you might be in for a surprise at the end.

originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: Malak777
We have to get real. We can't keep allowing the Church to ABUSE CHILDREN and WOMEN ...

The Church does not abuse people. People within the Church have used the Church as a cover to abuse people. It's true that the Church authorities have been complicit, or have turned a blind eye, but does that invalidate the whole religion? Clearly, in your mind it does.

Part of the Catholic Church addressing this problem and the Pope is at least trying.

originally posted by: Malak777
The Pope STILL will not let women in the priesthood.

That's another issue entirely.

I'm sorry, but this appears very lame set against the backdrop of what I have said in this thread. People will see that what you are arguing for is presently a vicious monster that never seems to learn its lesson. The worst of it is that it pretends to be holy.

The Church if you mean its leaders does definitely abuse people. Its priests are the ones doing the abusing. The building does not abuse, but the banking does when it totally contradicts what Jesus taught about storing up treasures on earth rather than in Heaven. What is a Church if not its members? Without its members it would not exist.

It is not just one crime. It is consistent and universal, spread out over the whole earth through all of history as constant abuse of humans wholesale. It must stop now. It is endemic within the institution. See for yourself how many cases there are over all the earth, from Australia to U.S, to the EU to Ireland and Britain and everywhere else they are too. It is not just a one off is it?

If you are covering up for them you are guilty by association because you did not protect or defend a victim when you knew a crime was taking place. I feel confident that G-D is liking every move I make on my keyboard right now.

You keep on defending them. Tell G-D about it like I am telling HIM that they must stop now. He is here I assure you, even between me and you communicating.

You appear like you want to keep covering up for them. I want to bust them wide open for these crimes. I want it to end so no more kids get abused by the priests and no more women are abused by them. Why don't they stop the pretence of worshipping Jesus and the G-D of Abraham if they can't keep to any of the rules? They should go off and abuse each other in their own little cult instead of spilling it all over the people. The are sexually exploiting their congregations and own workers. They are an institution. We must tell this Vatican State to get out if it keeps abusing our people like this.

The women priesthood is linked to this. They are not respecting women as their equal before G-D. Jesus accepted men and women as equals spiritually. I do not believe He looks down on women the way the Catholic Church does. It shows that they are, and let me make it very clearly here and now,

† Willing to use them as sex slaves, but ban them from being priests. †

Lol, the fathers (who Jesus said should not even be called father, as there is only One FATHER and I agree with Him) say women aren't good enough as they totally break their own vows of celibacy in the most criminal and sexually predetating ways.

Do you not see the irony and worst kind of hypocrisy in this? I do and I bet you G-D does too.

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: Malak777

I personally know a few monks, nuns and priests and they're all nice and good people.
I don't know what God you're answering to, but if yours points with broad brushes and tells you hate and self-righteously judging others is the way to go, you might be in for a surprise at the end.

Unless the Jews were right...

a reply to: Metallicus

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: Malak777

I personally know a few monks, nuns and priests and they're all nice and good people.
I don't know what God you're answering to, but if yours points with broad brushes and tells you hate and self-righteously judging others is the way to go, you might be in for a surprise at the end.

I am not judging anybody. I have not named any names. I have no jurisdiction.

I am defending the victims and the G-D I worship.

Why are these "good people" you mention not speaking up like I am? Why are they not speaking out against the evil of the institution they are members of? I know why. It is because they are under the thumb and have to obey as they are in a hierarchy. They want to hide their shame and guilt and do a cosmetic job on the affair when the soul of it is rotten. Well that will not wash any longer.

I am telling them stop. I am as as guilty as Jeremiah or John for that. I am allowed that authority by my G-D.I see the evil and destruction of what this Church has done and it must stop, plain and simple. There is no excuse to be doing any of this.

I don't understand why you are attacking me who is innocent of any abuse against anybody and defending a corrupt institution? You are just aiding the cover up.

Yes, I do HATE some things. Jesus did too. Do you want me to tell you how many times He used that word?

I am allowed to HATE evil and actively encouraged by Jesus and all the Prophets to hate it. The Bible clearly tells me to hate it. I do not hate the sinners of course. I pray that they repent and stop abusing women and children.

Is it too much to expect in this world that our so called holy people not abuse women and children?

If you are a Catholic you better speak out and save your Church. By continuing to hide all this you are damning yourselves. I am being very serious. Your reputation is in tatters now. The young will not go near you. Without new blood you are gonna die. That could happen in one generation.

Bring the crimes to justice. Stop the abuse in all these institutions. You will not get away with it any longer. The world is full of digital eyes everywhere now.

I am free with nothing to hide. It feels good to be so light hearted. It is the wage for at least trying to be good. If soul rotting is your bag, go for it, I will not stop you. I'll not judge you. I will defend the victims of your crimes though, every time I can.

Yes, I hate evil and evil acts. I wish they would die and so they will one day. I hate them, I hate them, I hate them.

I don't hate the ones who do them though. I pity them because I see what they do to themselves and other people.

Let me hear some Catholic voices condemning this. Where are they? Where are these "good people"? They seem more interested in defending the abusers than the abused. That is not "good people" in the Bible I am reading from.

There is tolerable sin as none of us are perfect, but wholesale corruption renders the whole structure fit only for demolition. I know I am right on this. I don't have to lift a finger. I'm just commenting, "just saying". I am telling G-D by writing these words that I bothered to care. I can show Him lots of times I said to Him I cared. He knows this. I shall continue to keep showing HIM that I care. That is the whole point.

If you care then surely you want the abuse of the women and children to stop too and for that Church to become clean again? That is my desire. It shall not gain my respect until it does, nor will any so called Church. Until that time I shall worship in private which is very nice to do any way. It is the way Daniel expressed himself while a captive in Babylon and this sure feels a lot like Babylon to me right now.

G-D Bless!

a reply to: Malak777

Cool. And I think allah was a child molestor.

Have a lovely day.