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from The Seattle Times:
Gates said that he wants to emphasize the "three R's — rigor, relevance and relationships." By that, he means stronger curricula (rigor), better preparation for work and higher education (relevance), and a school structure where students have more support from teachers and counselors (relationships).
Originally posted by Civil44
Its such a relief to see something constructive on this forum other than the usual "All the governments are secretly against us and want us all dead" threads. You get my vote for way up if there was karma on here K+. Awsome I just got out of highschool and although I had a very enjoyable time it's true everything your saying. You might wanna add that some teachers need to be screened and monitored more cause some are just nuts when there away from there peers.
Originally posted by Seekerof
I understand that your topic is covering only one educational area: highschool, but I want to make it clear that the problem begins long before kids get to high school.
Originally posted by Countermeasures
I think preschool is important, you must catch kids as early as possible as the brain is more pliable to learn math/language skills and more open to learn social behaviour, work-ethics etc. rather than have them figure that out on high schools with cars, guns and crack around....
Originally posted by RANT
They want public education gone, privatized, Christianized, prioritized, available for their kids, but not all kids...
Originally posted by RANT
For example, school vouchers for people that send their kids to private or faith based schools, because they aren't using what they're paying for in taxes. Better idea, same logic. How about a tax break for people with no kids instead? Doesn't that make more sense? Wouldn't that be the conservative taxation without representation argument?
Originally posted by RANT
And the mantra to stop rewarding failure. Okay. Can we do it at the state level? Let's just stop throwing federal money at those red state money pits entirely. In fact, let's condemn a few outright.
And you want more competition? Let's compete then. Blue state's can teach/pay/fund how they want, and the rest can do whatever they want (home school/church school/teach creationism/prayer/young earth).
Originally posted by soficrow
A broad and general education is essential IMO. Change the presentation, don't censor the knowledge.
Originally posted by soficrow
...My pet peeve: 'Special education' encompasses disabled kids needs and advanced kids needs in many states. ...Disabled kids needs are very costly - and the plug has been pulled on the whole program. Dumb. ...The $$$ for disabled special needs should come from a different pot entirely - and advanced kids need the programs.
Originally posted by denyignorance
I hope it's ok if I add to the conversation, it's my first time here. I see you have all written a lot and after reading it I must say that at this site a lot of thought goes into writing.
Originally posted by denyignorance
Have we all heard about the padlocking of school doors because schools are too full? How about the tiles falling from the ceilings during class?
Originally posted by denyignorance
So in my opinon [thelibra] it is a question of money and attitudes of the taxpayers surrounding the schools. The solution is an effective media campaign to shame the nation into funding the schools, faculty and staff.
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...Without proper funding and staffing of schools are students will have no guide through these very important adolescent years.
Originally posted by UK Wizard
Brilliant post
Sadly i've run out of way above this month
Originally posted by UK Wizard
Although the education system in the UK is different from the US system I can see some areas where the UK could do with looking more closely at the problems and solutions with US style education. Both countries could learn alot from each other. Particullarly sports which seem to have a large role in the US and a minimal role in the UK.
Originally posted by bratok
In my opinion... you see, people do have a predisposition. For example, if someone is predisposed for music, he on his own would be looking for ways of how to learn it, buy instruments, etc.
Originally posted by bratok
If someone is predisposed for being a Personality or opening his own business, for thinking with his own head, he will be looking for his ways of doing it. He would look for information on the subjects he needs and, in the best case, would be smart enough to ignore subjects ( school ) that he considers useless.
Originally posted by bratok
Yet, unfortunately, most today people do have a predisposition for nothing.
Originally posted by bratok
You can remove millions of this people from the face of the earth and no one would even notice.
My grandmother is one of those useless people you mentioned. She sits in her chair, all day, basically waiting until Sunday, when our whole family goes to lunch. She enjoys it, because she feels she's earned her rest. She doesn't even manage her own money anymore. She's rude, opinionated, somewhat racist, and can often compete quite well with the great grandchildren for attention by throwing a tantrum.
Yet if anyone were to ever lay a hand on her, that'd be the last thing they were ever able to do with that hand, short of a medical miracle. We love her dearly. She spent 3 generations raising kids, and has buried almost all of her siblings, half of her children, and some of her grandchildren. Though she no longer contributes anything more than the occasional interesting old person story, she is a valued and beloved member of my family. Per your definition, she is a zombie, but were she gone tomorrow, I would miss her dearly for the rest of my life.
One of the ways I hope to dissuade students from this is field trips to McDonald's, or a gas station, and have them interview the guy who cleans the toilets or takes out the trash, and then contrast it with a field trip to some other place, such as a Law Firm, and let them see the new porche, the polished oak desk, and so on... and let them draw their own conclusions without hammering it into their heads.
Originally posted by bratok
I in no way wanted to offend normal people in general or your grandmother in particular... Yet, you see, very few people out of millions do change or improve anything.
Originally posted by bratok
Great idea! Yet, maybe the Law Firm isn't truly the top of the world? Maybe there's something more then that?
Originally posted by bratok
Also that trips might show an interesting thing - the guy behind the polished oak desk is not always much happier then the one behind the counter in a gas station...
Originally posted by bratok
And that raises another questions that normal school, as well as normal people, tend to ignore.
- Is a job behind an oak desk a key to happiness? What is happiness, what makes one happy?
Originally posted by bratok
- If academic education is so important for successful life, how comes that at least half of most successful people ( according to Forbes ) haven't graduated from collage?
Originally posted by bratok
- What is success and what leads to it, if not academic knowledge ?
Originally posted by bratok
- Why kids have beautiful silence in their heads, while grown-ups have lots and lots of different distractive thoughts running around?
Originally posted by bratok
- Why kids can just run around and be happy, but grown-ups can't ?
Originally posted by bratok
- If you take 10 cards, label one as a "best path", another one as a "worst path" and other as "neutral path" and place them on the table, face down. A kid would, in most cases, pick the "best path", but a grown-up would, in most cases, pick the "worst path"... why is that?
Sadly, I have no answer yet for what to do with the mentaly disabled child. I leave that for those who can design a school to help overcome those difficulties. As for the physically handicapped, they would be put through the same program as everyone else, and the school system designed with their needs in mind. For the severely physically disabled, those confined to a bed, or long treatments that cause absences, an inexpensive touchscreen multimedia kit could be provided for home use that can be operated with a pencil, and broadcast to remotely. Such a unit would most likely even be paid for by charities.
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