FBI Arrests Roger Stone

originally posted by: shooterbrody
Any links provided for this "speculation" everyone was doing will be the first here.
funny none have been provided.

Last night:

On Thursday, Corsi’s stepson, Andrew Stettner, appeared before a grand jury hearing evidence in the case for about an hour. Afterward, his attorney Larry Klayman told reporters that Stettner had been questioned about his handling of Corsi’s computers.

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The grand jury working with Mueller's prosecutors gathered at the DC federal courthouse Thursday morning for a little more than two hours. Their meeting Thursday was an unusual departure from the normal day this grand jury assembles, which is almost always on Fridays.

www.cnn.com...

At the DC federal courthouse Thursday, Robinson spotted at least two prosecutors, Andrew Goldstein and Aaron Zelinsky, visiting with the grand jury. They stayed convened for more than an hour after Corsi's stepson Andrew Stettner testified to the grand jury.
Zelinsky earlier in the day had been spotted by CNN's Em Steck and Sam Fossum wheeling a suitcase with him to work, then leaving with it just after 2:30 p.m. The contents inside were unknown, though it suggested the possibility he could be getting ready to travel. (The special counsel's office would later confirm Friday that Zelinsky was in the Florida courtroom for Stone's appearance.)
With all those clues, it was decided to send Shortell from Washington to Florida to stake out Stone's house Friday morning, just in case the clues did add up to something.

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* CNN was speculating last night that Roger Stone would be Indicted this morning. Anyone listening to CNN would have heard the same.

When Manafort was indicted the Grand Jury met on a Thursday before the Friday indictment, which is very unusual as they always meet on Fridays.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Its not a whataboutism.

Media outlets get info obtained from illegal means all of the time. Plitical operatives constantly contact media groups in attempts to get info.

This is not illegal.

The people who broke the law to get the info can be charged with crmes.

The places reporting on that did not break the law, no matter who they discuss that material with.

originally posted by: ausername
a reply to: sean

Mueller and team/FBI have unwittingly opened a can of worms and it can't be undone now. In regard to wikileaks and some things that may or may not be directly related.

Methinks

Wikileaks sold out to the Russians years ago.

When Assange requested FSB as his security detail at the embassy was the first clue.

When Assange ripped into the Panama Papers leak that exposed Russian Oligarchs and embezzling trillions of Russian taxpayer funds was the clincher.

Assange works for FSB. He is desperate to get out of the Embassy and Russia is the only country offering him an exit plan.

a reply to: Extorris

a 404 from wapo and 2 stories from cnn....
nice
nothing here was there?

you have a strange definition of "everyone"

originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Its not a whataboutism.

Media outlets get info obtained from illegal means all of the time. Plitical operatives constantly contact media groups in attempts to get info.

This is not illegal.

The people who broke the law to get the info can be charged with crmes.

The places reporting on that did not break the law, no matter who they discuss that material with.

Is lying to the FBI and Congress under oath and threatening and encouraging other witnesses to lie a crime?

You appear distracted.

a reply to: Extorris

Nice try, you get a star for the effort!

a reply to: Grambler

Its not a whataboutism.

I didnt want to use that word but yeah, it is.

One is a journalist doing their job

The other is a political player using illegal means to give his candidate the edge (apparently through Wikileaks who are pretty much just a Russian front). Now this thread is about Stone being arrested its not sweet F.A to do with how you're least favourite journalists go about getting their scoops. Stone done wrong, has been caught, it's bad for Trump. Really thats about it.

Its not about the dems, its not about the journalists, its not even about Hilary (shocker) its about how the the contacts that Stone had that he lied about with Wikileaks.

You saying "what about" is, just deflection, avoiding the issue at hand because what about that funny spot on the end of my willy did Clinton do it!!!

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Extorris

a 404 from wapo and 2 stories from cnn....
nice
nothing here was there?

you have a strange definition of "everyone"

Well, anyone listening to CNN on XM Radio last night from the hours of 6 to 7 PM when Jeffrey Tubin was going on about how he thought Roger Stone would be indicted in the morning and explaining how the only other time the grand jury met on a Thursday evening was when Manafort was indicted the next morning.

You are welcome to your own cognitive dissonance if it keeps you comfortable.

originally posted by: ausername
a reply to: Extorris

Nice try, you get a star for the effort!

Facts don't require effort only objectivity.

I wish you that.

a reply to: Extorris

Jeffrey Tubin

still isnt your "everybody" interesting it is still just "cnn"

lol

the guns drawn swat team didnt make you suspicious?
nah of course not, stone is a hardened criminal....
which is why he bonded out before noon

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

If you accept the official narrative and story regarding how wikileaks obtained the "hacked" DNC emails, then of course it has to be a Russian front.

It was only a matter of time.

originally posted by: Extorris

originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Its not a whataboutism.

Media outlets get info obtained from illegal means all of the time. Plitical operatives constantly contact media groups in attempts to get info.

This is not illegal.

The people who broke the law to get the info can be charged with crmes.

The places reporting on that did not break the law, no matter who they discuss that material with.

Is lying to the FBI and Congress under oath and threatening and encouraging other witnesses to lie a crime?

You appear distracted.

Yes its a crime.

I was responding to the claim contacting wilileaks was a crime.

It was not.

Lying to congress or the fbi about it is.

a reply to: Extorris

One way or another it's all going to come out now.

The can of worms is open, and no one can undo that, no matter how much they may wish they could.

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: Grambler

Its not a whataboutism.

I didnt want to use that word but yeah, it is.

One is a journalist doing their job

The other is a political player using illegal means to give his candidate the edge (apparently through Wikileaks who are pretty much just a Russian front). Now this thread is about Stone being arrested its not sweet F.A to do with how you're least favourite journalists go about getting their scoops. Stone done wrong, has been caught, it's bad for Trump. Really thats about it.

Its not about the dems, its not about the journalists, its not even about Hilary (shocker) its about how the the contacts that Stone had that he lied about with Wikileaks.

You saying "what about" is, just deflection, avoiding the issue at hand because what about that funny spot on the end of my willy did Clinton do it!!!

Stone lied and threatened witnesses, thats a crime.

A political operative contavcting a media group to get info to help his campaign is not illegal.

If stone contacting wikileaks is illegal, than anyone who contacts a media soruvce that is reporting on info that was obtained illegally is also breaking the law.

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Extorris

originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Its not a whataboutism.

Media outlets get info obtained from illegal means all of the time. Plitical operatives constantly contact media groups in attempts to get info.

This is not illegal.

The people who broke the law to get the info can be charged with crmes.

The places reporting on that did not break the law, no matter who they discuss that material with.

Is lying to the FBI and Congress under oath and threatening and encouraging other witnesses to lie a crime?

You appear distracted.

Yes its a crime.

I was responding to the claim contacting wilileaks was a crime.

It was not.

Lying to congress or the fbi about it is.

Glad we agree the indictment was appropriate.

originally posted by: Extorris

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Extorris

originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Its not a whataboutism.

Media outlets get info obtained from illegal means all of the time. Plitical operatives constantly contact media groups in attempts to get info.

This is not illegal.

The people who broke the law to get the info can be charged with crmes.

The places reporting on that did not break the law, no matter who they discuss that material with.

Is lying to the FBI and Congress under oath and threatening and encouraging other witnesses to lie a crime?

You appear distracted.

Yes its a crime.

I was responding to the claim contacting wilileaks was a crime.

It was not.

Lying to congress or the fbi about it is.

Glad we agree the indictment was appropriate.

Absolutely it was.

Now again, I think the real story is the double standrds of the intell community evidenced by charging trump connected people for lyingh when hillary connected people were not charged, as I have said throughout this thread.

But cetrainly stone should be charged if he broke the law.

And threatening other witnesses is especially heinous and should be charged

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: Grambler

Its not a whataboutism.

I didnt want to use that word but yeah, it is.

One is a journalist doing their job

The other is a political player using illegal means to give his candidate the edge (apparently through Wikileaks who are pretty much just a Russian front). Now this thread is about Stone being arrested its not sweet F.A to do with how you're least favourite journalists go about getting their scoops. Stone done wrong, has been caught, it's bad for Trump. Really thats about it.

Its not about the dems, its not about the journalists, its not even about Hilary (shocker) its about how the the contacts that Stone had that he lied about with Wikileaks.

You saying "what about" is, just deflection, avoiding the issue at hand because what about that funny spot on the end of my willy did Clinton do it!!!

Stone lied and threatened witnesses, thats a crime.

A political operative contavcting a media group to get info to help his campaign is not illegal.

He was not indicted for his contacts with Wikileaks, so that argument seems irrelevant.

The Special Counsel was tasked with answering a question about collusion (Not a legal question).

Stones contact with Wikileaks (A Russian Agent according to the US Government) at the "Direction of a Senior Offical of the Trump Campaign" is informative, but not illegal.

Roger Stone's lying to congress and FBI and threatening and encouraging witnesses is illegal and is part of the Special Counsels mandate to prosecute associated crimes in the investigation.

a reply to: Extorris

It was not irrelvant bwhen a poster was saying it was illegal.

I was correcting that.

Wikileaks is not a proven russian organization.

I have as much proof that CNN is a CIA assett as you do wiwkileaks is russian.

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Extorris

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Extorris

originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Its not a whataboutism.

Media outlets get info obtained from illegal means all of the time. Plitical operatives constantly contact media groups in attempts to get info.

This is not illegal.

The people who broke the law to get the info can be charged with crmes.

The places reporting on that did not break the law, no matter who they discuss that material with.

Is lying to the FBI and Congress under oath and threatening and encouraging other witnesses to lie a crime?

You appear distracted.

Yes its a crime.

I was responding to the claim contacting wilileaks was a crime.

It was not.

Lying to congress or the fbi about it is.

Glad we agree the indictment was appropriate.

And threatening other witnesses is especially heinous and should be charged

So in text exchanges with with a Special Counsel Witness, Roger Stone says that they "should do a 'Frank Pentangeli'" before the House Intelligence Committee "in order to avoid contradicting Stone's testimony."

From the Godfather.

Frank Pentangeli was going to testify before congress until Michael Corleone (Godfather) shows up at the hearing with Frank's brother.



Then he is told to kill himself so his family would be spared



THAT is what Roger stone was telling a witness being asked to testify to the FBI, Congress and the Grand Jury.