A.G. Nominee WILLIAM BARR Supports Arresting Journalists-Reporters for Serious Violations.

Freedom of the Press doesn't mean that journalists are above the law. Absolutely, there are some who deserve to get sued out of business, and a perhaps a few who deserve to go to jail.

originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan
Freedom of the Press doesn't mean that journalists are above the law. Absolutely, there are some who deserve to get sued out of business, and a perhaps a few who deserve to go to jail.

So should posters here that say things as fact be sued or jailed for not prefacing with "I think" or "maybe" instead of saying it as if it's true?

If someone from the one letter thread goes out and kills some people, should everyone who participated in the thread be held liable?

My answer is no to all of the above.... But the second you allow the government to go after the media more (because they have)... We're next.

After the reporter calling for death to the kids and their families I think it's time for law enforcement to step in and make a few examples.

a reply to: Boadicea
Dude, you have to stop judging people in general by the few coherent people you know. The absolute majority are quite stupid cattle, ready to be exploited with a simple con and lose their money. Critical thought has all but disappeared.

Convincing them to believe in lies is too simple. I mean, I can call out six members by name who gleefully accept and believe the lie of the week, and then go silent when it is disproven, only to show up for the next one ready to do it all over again.

Those poor idiots just have no brain power, but that happens as one grows older, and many of them are pushing past sixty so I guess it is expected.

I think arrests are a good start, but the peers will not learn until someone's blood is let. I say pick a few editors and producers responsible for the most blatant and repulsive lies and execute by firing squad. Death by firing squad is a more effective deterrent that thirty years of being clothed and fed in a box and then taken to a chair. The chair gives them decades to continue on. The immediacy of a firing squad would no doubt make other criminals in media think twice.

Then we can move on to removing unfavorable corruption Targeted towards the youth in kids entertainment, and finally move to an opt in age verification for pornography as well.

Please, let this be the beginning of the end for filth corrupting the minds of kids on every screen shoved in their face.

We need to bring firing squads back as an effective capital punishment and add misdirection of the general public In an attempt to forment a mob coup for over throwing our government as a capital crime.

I strongly look forward to this AG and hope he follows through with some example setting. Expect to see arrests in 2020, or perhaps the msm will not test the waters and actually be honest for next years elections. That would also prove the success of such a revised policy.

a reply to: CriticalStinker
Learn to differentiate from a licensed professional in a specific industry designed for mass (mis)information vs a private citizen participating in a hobby discussion with a handful of peers.

One is in a regulated industry that must maintain high standards, the other is the equivalent of a few guys chatting in a bar. making such grand leaps of speculation should wait until someone actually says "I want to see regular people in bars arrested for having g certain discussions". Then again, if you were discussing in a bar how to overthrow the government with explosives and it was not a single drunk line as a joke, I believe that cOuld maybe warrant an investigation.

a reply to: worldstarcountry

Learn to differentiate from a licensed professional in a specific industry designed for mass (mis)information vs a private citizen participating in a hobby discussion with a handful of peers.

You're misunderstanding my point. I'm fully capable of doing such. You're just implying you trust our government can do so if we allow them to take their gloves off.... I don't.

a reply to: worldstarcountry

Hmmm... So am I giving people too much credit?

Okay. How about this: I'll be happy if we demand -- and get -- the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth from our government FIRST, including those members of the media who knowingly and willfully aided and abetted their corruption and propaganda in the name of a "free press."

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: carewemust

I remind you of the first amendment:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

No where in there does it say a corrupt press shall operate openly and deliberately spread dis-informaton that makes governing the country difficult and/or helps enemies resist America.

originally posted by: Agit8dChop

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: carewemust

I remind you of the first amendment:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

No where in there does it say a corrupt press shall operate openly and deliberately spread dis-informaton that makes governing the country difficult and/or helps enemies resist America.

What the hell does Fox News have to do with this?

Yesterday, WikiLeaks did a whole day's worth of exposing various lies and distortions from various news sources....tip of the iceberg.

Accept it America. FAKE NEWS has become a tactic of the left-wing posing as "journalists" and "news reporters". They shouldn't get away with lies and making up their own stories to influence people.

A tiny blip 5 days later to correct their lie is too late when their headline was a bold hyperbolic statement. Lots of people, sadly, only read the headlines, and they know it.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan
Freedom of the Press doesn't mean that journalists are above the law. Absolutely, there are some who deserve to get sued out of business, and a perhaps a few who deserve to go to jail.

So should posters here that say things as fact be sued or jailed for not prefacing with "I think" or "maybe" instead of saying it as if it's true?

If someone from the one letter thread goes out and kills some people, should everyone who participated in the thread be held liable?

My answer is no to all of the above.... But the second you allow the government to go after the media more (because they have)... We're next.

People have offered examples of journalists and celebrities calling for harassment, violence, and even murder, based solely on perceived political affiliation.

Yes, those people need to be arrested and thrown into prison. The fact that they might call themselves a journalist is no excuse.

a reply to: Agit8dChop

No where in there does it say a corrupt press shall operate openly and deliberately spread dis-informaton that makes governing the country difficult and/or helps enemies resist America.

You're right. But you are assuming that it's only the press which is corrupt. As long as it's "legal" under color of law for the Feds to "openly and deliberately spread dis-information", we have to at least consider that the MSM is simply doing the bidding of the Federal agents.

If the critters didn't like it this way, they would be giving the public the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. They would at least be demanding that Trump do so by declassifying anything and everything they have. Trump has the power... apparently just not the will.

a reply to: Boadicea

Hi, Boadicea...Yes, Trump has the power and he could declassify everything, and he may yet do it. But, I keep thinking about his words:

“Maybe it’s better that the public not see what’s been going on with this country.”

I believe he loves this country and its people deeply. if he can fix the corruption and drain the swamp without tearing us apart, I think he would prefer to do it that way. There is going to be some pain though. I don't think it can be avoided.

I think some Big Fish will have to "fry" for The People to understand that Justice IS working her way through the stinky interwining putrid swamp of DC corruption. They are fighting him tooth and nail as one fake news story after another comes out to discredit him.

originally posted by: worldstarcountry
a reply to: Boadicea
Dude, you have to stop judging people in general by the few coherent people you know. The absolute majority are quite stupid cattle, ready to be exploited with a simple con and lose their money. Critical thought has all but disappeared.

Convincing them to believe in lies is too simple. I mean, I can call out six members by name who gleefully accept and believe the lie of the week, and then go silent when it is disproven, only to show up for the next one ready to do it all over again.

voice of experience

Those poor idiots just have no brain power, but that happens as one grows older, and many of them are pushing past sixty so I guess it is expected.

I think arrests are a good start, but the peers will not learn until someone's blood is let. I say pick a few editors and producers responsible for the most blatant and repulsive lies and execute by firing squad. Death by firing squad is a more effective deterrent that thirty years of being clothed and fed in a box and then taken to a chair. The chair gives them decades to continue on. The immediacy of a firing squad would no doubt make other criminals in media think twice.

Then we can move on to removing unfavorable corruption Targeted towards the youth in kids entertainment, and finally move to an opt in age verification for pornography as well.

Please, let this be the beginning of the end for filth corrupting the minds of kids on every screen shoved in their face.

We need to bring firing squads back as an effective capital punishment and add misdirection of the general public In an attempt to forment a mob coup for over throwing our government as a capital crime.

I strongly look forward to this AG and hope he follows through with some example setting. Expect to see arrests in 2020, or perhaps the msm will not test the waters and actually be honest for next years elections. That would also prove the success of such a revised policy.

proof of concept

a reply to: queenofswords

I believe he loves this country and its people deeply. if he can fix the corruption and drain the swamp without tearing us apart, I think he would prefer to do it that way.

I would very much like to believe that, and it may be true... But when I think in terms of Trump being the good guy, I'm more inclined to think that he would only hold back because of some kind of threat -- a booby trap or "insurance policy" -- against the people.... like a jillion Las Vegas Massacre scenarios playing out all at once all over the country. And believe me, I've wondered if that isn't exactly what Vegas was... just a preview so to speak.

There is going to be some pain though. I don't think it can be avoided.

Yup. That's for sure. But that pain is coming one way or another, and I would prefer that it's for the better. And I'm just the rip-the-bandage-off-real-quick and get it over with type. Give us the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, and let the chips fall where they may. I think we all have to know and understand the depths this corruption goes, how it was pulled off, and by who, and all the whys and wherefores. How else will we learn what NOT to do again?

I think some Big Fish will have to "fry" for The People to understand that Justice IS working her way through the stinky interwining putrid swamp of DC corruption. They are fighting him tooth and nail as one fake news story after another comes out to discredit him.

Definitely. No more low level scapegoats and fall guys. It must be the ones at the top, or it's just still business as usual. And ya know what? I don't even want them to go to jail. Just the poor house!!!

Let's see what kind of dent we can make in the debt with fines for the truly guilty, eh?

So to continue with what the Past Presidents have done

what was that whole swamp thing about?

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: carewemust

IMO, printing maliciousness against the U.S. President, like the two BuzzFeed Trump-haters did last week, should make journalists indictable.

No.

Didn't the SC already rule that there are limits of the 1st amendment, including not being protective of 'shouting fire in a crowded theatre'? That was a turn of phrase in a famous case. In Schenck v. United States, the SC ruled that speech against the draft in WW1 was not protected under the 1st Amendment. Specifically the ruling said that the flyers distributed were not protected because they presented a 'clear and present danger to the recruitment efforts of the war'.

In terms of the fake news trying to bring down Trump, it is pretty close to sedition. The Sedition Act of 1918 forbids the use of "disloyal, profane, scurrilous, or abusive language" about the United States government, its flag, or its armed forces that caused others to view the American government or its institutions with contempt.

As for the Covington fake news, the media lies - pre-meditated lies - have caused danger to citizens (kids no less). The death threats are already piling up.

a reply to: carewemust

They are subject to the law as all of us are. They cannot go after them just because they dont like what is published or even if what is published is a lie. Sorry...

a reply to: UKTruth

That post of yours was awesome! Eloquent, clear, and educational.

I can't wait for our new A.G. William Barr to team up with Lindsay Graham, and kick arse.

a reply to: bobs_uruncle

Freedom of the press means they can publish what ever they want. If they publish damaging information that is not true they can be sued for libel. If they publish damaging information that is true... tuff titties...
and if they publish information that is not true but is also not damaging guess what? tuff again...