The North Pole is moving 34 miles per year towards Siberia ?

a reply to: Quantumgamer1776

Same here, it seems to be accelerated. It might be then it will likely cause other concerns to accelerate.

originally posted by: FilthyUSMonkey
a reply to: Gargoyle91
Well, now do I have to get updated USGS maps for the magnetic offset? Is 35 miles that much of a deal?

I am still one of those people who trust a map and a compass (and a backup compass - Silva!) to get around in the brush. Yeah, I will use those newfangled GPS units for most of my trips, but I always am secure in my maps and compass kits.

Good post. S&F.

You don't need to buy USGS maps. You can go to Airnav.com and look at the aviation sectional map for the area you are in. It clearly shows the magnetic variation and you can use it to find true north. For example the variation is 12 degrees East for San Francisco.

a reply to: F4guy

Thanks for the tip!



ETA - OK, I see this for Harrisburg PA:

Runway heading: 082 magnetic, 071 true

One of the better videos on pole shift and earth's weakening magnetic field. youtu.be...

The video is from 2015 but Ben was correct when he said government models which were predicting a slow down are probably wrong just like they have been in the past.


There is another video (some place) that shows during a reversal there are multiple magnetic poles (up to 5 ) which I thought was rather weird.

youtu.be...


There are many videos on youtube for those who are interested.. They range from we are gonna die doom porn stuff to maybe we will make it for those who can live without electricity.

A video from NOVA youtu.be...

a reply to: dreamingawake

Wooo hooo! Vacation weather is coming to us!

Or this is going to hurt.

Just posted this in another forum, but is relevant to this topic.

The magnetic poles story reminded me of something I was researching yesterday. The CIA classified a book named The Adam and Eve Story, by Chan Thomas back in 1966. They only de-classified it in 2013 after sanitizing it.

You can read it for yourself here:- Link from the CIA's website. The actual start is page 10.

Isn't the North Pole stationary? Wouldn't it be more like Siberia is moving toward the North Pole?

a reply to: Blue Shift

Earth does not always spin on an axis running through its poles, she Instead wobbles irregularly over time and our Moon also contributes to the wobble, so as far as I'm aware the poles are not stationary but continuously shift.

a reply to: Blue Shift


Two different concepts entirely.


The Earth's rotational axis is very stable. The location of the Earth's magnetic poles are not. The rotational north pole is not moving. The magnetic north pole is.

a reply to: tadaman


The projection: Florida will be like Washington State, Washington State will be like Florida climate and weather wise.
Though, the drawback we're seeing already is the masses up here-- that can hardly be dealt with as it is.

& #WashingtonMan will be the new #FloridaMan

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Blue Shift

Earth does not always spin on an axis running through its poles, she Instead wobbles irregularly over time and our Moon also contributes to the wobble, so as far as I'm aware the poles are not stationary but continuously shift.

Yeah, but as much as it might wobble, the North Pole is still the northernmost point connected by a center line to the southernmost point around which the Earth rotates.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Blue Shift
Two different concepts entirely.

Sure. Magnetic versus geographic.

a reply to: Blue Shift

Yes connected by an imaginary line.

I'm thinking that mining could possibly effect the pole like that. So many big mines are pulling out metals out of the crust that it could effect the dipoles which in turn might have some effect on this movement of the north magnetic pole.

Y’all are really gonna freak when Guam capsizes.

No one more than Hank Johnson.

sorendreier.com...

On 15 January, they are set to update the World Magnetic Model, which describes the planet’s magnetic field and underlies all modern navigation, from the systems that steer ships at sea to Google Maps on smartphones.

The most recent version of the model came out in 2015 and was supposed to last until 2020 — but the magnetic field is changing so rapidly that researchers have to fix the model now. “The error is increasing all the time,” says Arnaud Chulliat, a geomagnetist at the University of Colorado Boulder and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s (NOAA’s) National Centers for Environmental Information.

The problem lies partly with the moving pole and partly with other shifts deep within the planet. Liquid churning in Earth’s core generates most of the magnetic field, which varies over time as the deep flows change. In 2016, for instance, part of the magnetic field temporarily accelerated deep under northern South America and the eastern Pacific Ocean. Satellites such as the European Space Agency’s Swarm mission tracked the shift.

By early 2018, the World Magnetic Model was in trouble. Researchers from NOAA and the British Geological Survey in Edinburgh had been doing their annual check of how well the model was capturing all the variations in Earth’s magnetic field. They realized that it was so inaccurate that it was about to exceed the acceptable limit for navigational errors.

a reply to: Gargoyle91
Well that is good, that there updating there model.

Would not want people some time from now, maybe years maybe months to fly north only to end up somewhere else. Also what would happen if pilots take off the autopilot?

OK, maybe they should have waited a few years before updating the model.

Would make a few good news stories, imagine taking a flight to Canada only to end up in Russia. Imagine getting off the plane and people would be like. "you know what I think these Canadians are more rude then people say"

AH, joking, most flight paths and ship paths are from point fixed point to point, this aint like when Columbus had to navigate by compass across the seas.

a reply to: heffo7

Hey, sometimes Shift Happens. Everybody has a book on it.

a reply to: Gargoyle91

If you have done any research on this you'll see that the earth is splitting open in certain areas,rivers,lakes disappearing,volcanoes going off at an unpresidented state,sounds to me that the earth is getting ready to burst into pieces,and if you look in historic times they left us many messages of what is to come,and I'm afraid it could be very close to the time,with solar systems entering they are effecting the earth,and in a negative way

originally posted by: Quantumgamer1776
Isn’t this highly accelerated? I thought I remembered hearing it was inches per year.

I have a thread on my observations on this a few weeks back.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

The poles are moving and so is the water circulation in the upper atmosphere to match the change AND the magma pools below are moving too.

I also think all this is driven by the activity inside the Sun.

www.abovetopsecret.com...