the Breatharian phenomenon: a case of fish refusing to follow the frog on to the land.

a reply to: alomaha

I am so sad that people don't see how dependance on food keeps us in slavery position to this unnatural system that is controlled by giant corporations which control food supply on this planet...

What, like farmers?

a reply to: oldcarpy

Is it farmers that control the food supply?

a reply to: Itisnowagain

No, but anyone here in the UK can buy locally produced food produced by farmers.

a reply to: oldcarpy

Yes, however you still have to work to get money to buy the food and travel to the farm shop.... if you didn't eat you wouldn't have to.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Wouldn't have to work if I didn't eat? Then how would I pay my mortgage, electricity, council tax, bills etc?

a reply to: oldcarpy

You could get a part time job..... you wouldn't have to work for money for food or drivng to shop/farm... saves loads of money and time.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

A part time job would not cover my mortgage let alone the rest of the bills and the general cost of living. Food is not the biggest item of expenditure to most people in the West.

a reply to: Rolci



I don't really believe you but it is an interesting read.
I had some questions;
what are the differences between 'pranarian' 'solarian' and 'breatharian'?

Can you explain please?

a reply to: Rolci

There certainly are many unknowns to our existence and I hope you find what you need at the end of your path. Another interesting evolutionary engineered path we humans might take up would be to research further into photosynthesis for humans to free us from the eater-eaten relationship.

www.bbc.com...

Mods should delete this thread.

Telling people they can survive without eating is dangerous.

Dangerous but entertaining/interesting. That's why I like to study weird shi# like Scientology; not gonna do it but I like to hear about weird stuff other people do.

Now if only the OP could answer my questions. Or anyone else?

The whole OP was long but lacking in actual detail. It could have been summed up in about 3 sentences.
1. I don't eat food anymore; hard to believe I know.
2. Wim from Holland is neat too see how you can control everything using your mind?
3. I am proud I don't have to eat because I also don't pay bills bc I am so awesome.


a reply to: Tempter

a reply to: chris_stibrany

after one month - dead , deader , deadest

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: chris_stibrany

after one month - dead , deader , deadest

LOL

2nd lol

The Deadliest Catch

I am sorry about the delay in answering any previous questions, I didn't realise there was a second page here, just noticed all these posts here. I don't use forums very often these days.

There was a question about calories. I have a hunch that that has something to do with energies? I have never looked into all that, I have always had my own personal opinion of when people "count their calories". If you start, it'll become an obsession, therefore I have never chosen to "believe" (as in becoming an observer to make it become real like in quantum physics). In other words, I figured if you don't look, the tree in the woods is not really there. And for all practical purposes, for me at least, it never was. I maintain that those that pay no attention to "calories" and what vitamin is in which foods and what mineral and all that, then you're not worse off than those that do. I used to believe (chose to believe) that food supplements are for real. I used to take them. I didn't feel different. I stopped. Just went to show (me) that it was all make-believe stuff. I cannot advise. How many calories does prana give? Per what, hour? No idea. Can it be calculated directly from the weight gain by breatharians during meditation? I am not aware of such formula. Unfortunately my knowledge on that field is limited by my own choices in the past and the present. I'm glad I never went into all that. If it's your thing, to worry about all that, you carry on.

Dear user Nothin had a similar question relating to energy and a video, I did watch the video, hats off, but watching him gutting and eating that dead bird did not win my approval. Otherwise, impressive. Energy-wise, again, I have no clue, I am not living his life, or even his sort of life. Like I said I do volunteer. I do physical stuff. I walk. I jump. The energy comes from prana (to my mind essentially same as chi). Do I ever "run out of" energy? No.

The CO2 "debunkers" again, yeah I used to be one of them, so when prana gets converted into nutrients (see quantum biology) obviously most of those will be carbon-based. End of story, no further comment, do your own research, I have done mine, not that if I had found all other answers except this then that would invalidate my own personal undeniable experience. Get over it. And you keep saying no one has demonstrated it, over a dozen people have, I have given a list in the OP, again, you have your free will choice not to accept them and convince yourself they were invalid. Here are just a couple:

www.collective-evolution.com...

And I am not trying to sell books, I have never written one, not even my own story, the closest I ever came to that was when I made my OP here a few days ago. There is nothing in this for me, other than the satisfaction I take from sharing with fellow humans, some of whom might be ready, just need some info, some encouragement.

Alomaha, the documentary you were talking about was In the Beginning There Was Light. Came out 9 years ago, you used to need subtitles for English, last year they released a revised version with English narration that you can rent (and download) for $6. Probably the best documentary on the subject.

What's the argument about the mortgage subject again? Sell your mortgage, buy a tiny house, live off grid. No more mortgage, no more bills. More and more people are doing it, it's like an epidemic. Have you actually looked at the youtube channel I suggested? www.youtube.com... Only thing you'll have left to need money for will be food. Until you transition to B of course. Then you're free or the monetary system. Only if you're really ready and crave freedom. Some people genuinely enjoy consumer fetishism and all the other "wonders" of modern capitalism (aka plundering the planet shi#less as opposed to resource-based economies like the Venus Project is preparing to be).

There was a question about the differences between 'pranarian' 'solarian' and 'breatharian'. I will start by saying that everybody uses these differently, I do not believe there is a consensus so I can only say how I see them. I use the word "breatharian" as an umbrella term for all kinds of people that no longer NEED to consume physical food for survival, regardless of whether they drink water or not, or where they get their energy from. I use the term solarian as a synonym for sungazers, to describe those breatharians who have the belief that they "use" the Sun's rays for energy. They stare into the sun when it's just above the horizon as a kind of meditation with the added auto-suggestion of harvesting energy. I cannot comment on the supposed mechanism of that particular type of breatharianism as I never looked into it and I do not count myself among them, sungazing is not part of my belief system. Pranarians are, similarly, those Bs that believe they gain their sustenance and energy from prana, aka Chi, which is a well-researched phenomenon, as indicated by my links in the OP. Other Bs do not necessarily believe in prana, for example not all sungazers do.

There are many other subtypes of B, but at the end of the day it's one phenomenon, with a multitude of belief systems held by practitioners who have the one thing in common that they no longer need physical food. And obviously you don't have to believe in something to become a B, but it helps. There are Bs that don't believe in prana, or sungazing. But that does not mean they disbelieve them or never practise them. I would call myself a pranarian-waterian if I had to use labels, but I do sometimes gaze into the sun, I do believe there is a spiritual connection, that I feel, so I only do it when it "comes to me", and when I do, I actually enjoy it, but I do not believe it gives me sustenance. It's like realising all magick beliefs are arbitrary, so you drop yours, then pick and choose - that's how chaos magick was born.

"Telling people they can survive without eating is dangerous." - My answer to that: Governments should ban automobiles - over a million people die each year:

roads.live.kiln.digital.../deaths/all

Don't compare the 4 people who died in the past 30 years trying to transition to B while not following the guidelines to the 36 million people that died in road accidents, most of whom were innocent passengers and pedestrians, just because people BUY INTO the need to live rushed lives. Where's the rush? We're building skyscrapers like it's a cosmic race and we must be first. To do what? Make the planet unfit for life? But taking the evolutionary leap that results in living a compassionate and sustainable, let alone truly free, life, is of course dangerous. One person dies every 26 seconds in a road accident. Cars are dangerous. Do you drive? To a job you don't need? To the supermarket to spend it on stuff you don't need? Good on you.

Yes, fasting is VERY dangerous. For big pharma, at least. For humans, it gives a better health and a longer life:

www.collective-evolution.com...

Then how dangerous can permanent abstinence be? And how does that compare to simple dry fasting? Instead of me answering everything, get a clue:

www.youtube.com...

Thank you for the response; it was interesting.
I don't think I am buying this but I appreciate the info. Plus i actively enjoy food and the taste smell etc

a reply to: Rolci

originally posted by: chris_stibrany
Thank you for the response; it was interesting.
I don't think I am buying this but I appreciate the info. Plus i actively enjoy food and the taste smell etc

Yes, most Bs develop a more acute sense of smell, in areas where the B population is a higher ratio there are restaurants that cater to them, they serve a bowl with distilled water in it that they drop quality incense into, and Bs come to enjoy the fragrances. There is the whole ordering process where you choose your flavour and intensity. Essentially it is a spiritual experience.

Other Bs do something I think is "funny", they taste food, i.e. put a bit on their tongue, then spit it out. I think of these Bs more like "fanatics" like many vegans. I mean, swallowing one bite won't do them any harm, they just don't want to lose their newly re-established gastronomic virginity or something.

I personally don't do any of the above. I do consume water and I do imbue it with Love (you would say I bless it). My personal belief system incorporates by choice the results of Dr. Masaru Emoto's research, which has been repeated and confirmed time and again, but I feel it is not accepted as mainstream yet. In case somene does not know what we are talking about:

www.youtube.com...

You not buying this is fine with me if it's fine with you, I am not here to convince, I'm here to share and inspire. I wouldn't want to change anyone's belief system, not even that of a sungazer. But I do think it's important to make our choices based on the latest relevant information available, which is why I decided to post all the research incorporated into my story in the OP rather than just another meaningless "here's what I did" post which may or may not inspire. I think it's important to bring science into the picture, I wish there were more research and certainly more and BETTER documentaries about B. The ones that exist are the first baby steps in properly documenting this phenomenon, most people are still not aware of just how widespread this is, but then again interestingly it seems to be concentrated in just a handful of countries, like Germany, India and Russia, while in Australia (home to Jamusheen who wrote the first book on the subject to my knowledge) and the rest of the world almost nothing is going on. Surprisingly not even in Tibet, that I know of.

I am certainly curious to see this unfold, or not, to see where the people of the world will choose to steer themselves towards, although like I said short of a global nuclear fallout not much can affect us where we are, certainly not economic collapse, wars, political upheaval, or even rising energy prices. That's a comfort most cannot even imagine. Even if you never choose to give up food, you can always buy a tiny house on wheels with solar panels and go off grid, and grow your own. That's the next best thing. And even though that's not only doable but thousands do it every year, yet the majority are still asleep in the matrix. That steak must be REALLY good.

a reply to: Rolci

Thank you for this informative thread.
I have heard of this before and find it very interesting. I read a book called 'Mans Higher Consciousness' by Hilton Hotema.....which is about this subject.

a reply to: Rolci

simple question - have any " no fooders " submitted to a controlled experiment - with no room for cheating - and medical // weight checks + controlled intake // weighed output for 30 days ???????????

every " no fooder " i read about either is evasive and un-cooperative or is discovered cheating

a reply to: ignorant_ape

Yes they have:

www.independent.co.uk...

This is "Jasmuheen" who did just that. The results, were disappointing. Fraudster, and married to one, too - apparently.

a reply to: Rolci


It is I love meat. www.seriouse... ats.com/recipes/assets_c/2015/05/Anova-Steak-Guide-Sous-Vide-Photos15-beauty-thumb-1500xauto-423558.jpg"

The thing is you can't just buy a tiny home you also have to buy the land to put it on which is just as expensive as buying a full size house?

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