Millions Could Lose Food Assistance If Government Shutdown Continues

So what gets me is there isnt much news about the loss of benifits.

Can an admin dig through this post and delete the several disgusting racist remarks from sickening men-children please?

a reply to: Teikiatsu

most able-bodied adults on snap have jobs. jobs at walmart, or e-4 and below in the military.

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: magnetik
a reply to: Aallanon

umm, i see your racist but more whites on cash aid then blacks

*you're
*than

240,000,000 whites
40,000,000 blacks

Of course there's gonna be a higher number of whites on government assistance. Would you like to go by percentage of race?

Thanks for calling them out on this as I was about to before I saw your post.

Its sad that most liberals don't understand per capita and why its important.

I've worked for the past 11 years and not have I EVER had 3 full carts of #ing food.

I couldn't believe it.

Also good, no more votes for the Democrats since they won't be getting their ebt

Well I would suggest everyone stock up on food because in Feburary the food assistance programs ends.

I also see a problem with there potentially not being enough food in areas where people begin to riot and steal food. I worry that the food supply lines for entire cities may be cut off. We may be witnessing the beginings of a civil war.

originally posted by: Aallanon
No more grape Nehi or BBQ ribs

I joke (sorta)

Have you really never been in a grocery store and been behind one of these link carders in line?

They eat better (or worse I guess) than anyone who earns a living ever would.

Because they don't care, because they are not paying for it.

I'm on disability and I get food stamps. I count it as part of my income. What I eat is none of your business. No I'm not eating prime rib and lobster. I paid into the system and so does my family. Yeah I buy stuff with sugar in it so what. Most of the time I'm eating tuna fish and frozen pizza's.

a reply to: wantsome

I count it as part of my income.

You shouldn't, you should count it as charity to you from the tax payers. What did you do to earn that income? After all, the word income means you worked for it.

What I eat is none of your business.

When you're spending other people's money, it's their business. This is really the problem with these programs. Those using it don't view it as charity from others, they view it as a god given right. I've used WIC before, I viewed it as charity and got off of it in one month. I don't need money from tax payers. I'll find a way to support myself without it. In this situation I cut costs in other areas.

I paid into the system and so does my family.

Food stamps isn't a "paid into" program. You don't have to have paid a single red cent in taxes to receive it. It's not like unemployment insurance or social security, it's a literal handout.

a reply to: Dfairlite

I hate to break it to you but everybody pays taxes. I didn't ask to get a debilitating illness when I was 20. These programs are safety nets for the poor. It's what keeps them shooting at your kids and eating your dog. I come from a middle class family. My dad works at Ford my mom is a registered nurse one of my grandfathers was in WW2 my other grandfather Korea my uncle died in Vietnam. My family bleeds red white and blue. They paid their share of taxes like everybody else. I spent 12 years in the workforce paying taxes. Not once did I look at my paycheck and think useless eaters were steeling food off my table. I don't concern myself with what other people do. It's a waste of my time. If all I did was stare at my paycheck and think of all the money the government wastes on dropping bombs I'd be a bitter angry person. Smoke cigarettes? drink beer? eat fatty foods? overweight? or hell just drink the water. Cancer can come for you at any moment. Better hope you live to old age without needing to collect disability. It's not fun living one paycheck away from being homeless. Not to mention surviving on 3rd world income in the richest country on earth. You happy life can change at any moment. Your better hope you never need to use these programs.

a reply to: Dfairlite

Of course every tax payer and non taxpayer has paid into the system; if they're eligible they're entitled.

When you're spending other people's money, it's their business

How about insurance? Using your logic only certain doctors diagnosis and treatments that you approve of should be claimable. It is after all, "other peoples money".

Why is it that the richest country on this earth is so divided, yet the war machine keeps getting funded, military adventurism hasn't stopped. Lobbyist's drain your budgets and all you people can lash out on is food stamps.

Notice the disconnect?

a reply to: wantsome

You dont have to explain, most intelligent people with some compassion do get it.

I think many are missing the point here.

Whether it is a government shutdown, a grid, or a financial collapse, the majority of Americans are in a very fragile position.

We know that our government is not reliable when it comes to meeting the needs of the people. It seems to me, waiting around for the government to come to the rescue is a poor choice for getting through a crisis if one should occur.

Being dependent on a corrupt, controlling government, that has its own agenda, one that is not in your favor, is not very wise.

In my opinion, and we all know the rest of the story.

originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: wantsome

You dont have to explain, most intelligent people with some compassion do get it.

I agree that we need some compassion for the needy.

Hoeever, and this is in response to Wantsome as well.

It seems to me that there is a danger of the government telling you what you can and cant eat if you are relying on them for food.

Remember, the argument made for Obamacare was that the government needs to get involved with insurance because it affects us all. SO an unhealthy person making unhealthy choices drives costs up for the rest of us.

Using that logic, the government could make the argument that these unhealthy behaviors need to be stopped because it is affecting us all. The first area we would likely see that is with people on food stamps, who perhaps will be told their choices will be limited to healthy foods.

Now although I am against government infringement on freedoms, there is a good argument to be had that if the people (ie tax dollars) are paying for your food, its for your well being, and therefore it should be healthy food, not chips or soda, and it should not include luxuries like steak and lobster.

I dont feel people making these arguments are not being compassionate, I think its a real discussion that needs to be had.

a reply to: Grambler

I hear what you are saying.

Coming from a family with 10 siblings, trying to get a unanimous decision on anything was a near impossibility.

My Mother would cut arguments about food short. She would say, "He that is paying does the saying".

I have found that to be true in many things in life. Growing up, you ate what was put on your plate or you went hungry.

I won't say I liked her rules all the time, and I made the mistake of saying so, a time or two, once as a child and once as a teen, but my arguments were futile.

Notice both times I said "once". My Mother was a shrewd operator.

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: wantsome

You dont have to explain, most intelligent people with some compassion do get it.

I agree that we need some compassion for the needy.

Hoeever, and this is in response to Wantsome as well.

It seems to me that there is a danger of the government telling you what you can and cant eat if you are relying on them for food.

Remember, the argument made for Obamacare was that the government needs to get involved with insurance because it affects us all. SO an unhealthy person making unhealthy choices drives costs up for the rest of us.

Using that logic, the government could make the argument that these unhealthy behaviors need to be stopped because it is affecting us all. The first area we would likely see that is with people on food stamps, who perhaps will be told their choices will be limited to healthy foods.

Now although I am against government infringement on freedoms, there is a good argument to be had that if the people (ie tax dollars) are paying for your food, its for your well being, and therefore it should be healthy food, not chips or soda, and it should not include luxuries like steak and lobster.

I dont feel people making these arguments are not being compassionate, I think its a real discussion that needs to be had.

I'm all for eating healthy but generally cheaper processed foods last longer and my food stamps go further. I'm a one person household and if I cook a big meal using real food I have to eat it all before it goes bad. If I spend $25 making a pot of Chili I usually eat it until I'm sick of it. As apposed to buying a $4 pizza I can just stick in my oven and get 2 meals out of if I eat half now half later. I usually only eat twice a day. I eat a lot of eggs tuna spam soup. I make casseroles and stuff with chicken and rice. I rarely buy beef unless it's ground chuck. Sometimes I might buy a roast if it's on sale. That's another thing I know prices and I shop wisely. I'm not living off of hot pockets and mountain dew. I rarely buy pop mostly just juice or coffee. I get $180 a month in food stamps that's $6 a day. Making it stretch isn't easy.

a reply to: wantsome
I hear you.

Its a sad state of affairs that garbage food tends to be cheaper. That is one reason why poorer people tend to eat unhealthier.

Its definitely a complicated mess, thats for sure.

And we need to understand that there is room for compassion, while also realizing there is a problem with corrupt abuse of the system and other things.

originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: wantsome
I hear you.

Its a sad state of affairs that garbage food tends to be cheaper. That is one reason why poorer people tend to eat unhealthier.

Its definitely a complicated mess, thats for sure.

And we need to understand that there is room for compassion, while also realizing there is a problem with corrupt abuse of the system and other things.

I'm in Michigan they're pretty strict at human services. Even though I've been on disability for 10 years I still have to jump through hoops once a year. My aunt is on disability too she had a liver transplant. Every year I have to hand over bank statements and stuff. They also check with the dmv for car titles and other stuff. I can't have over $3000 in assets. That means cars or anything of value. Human services watches what you buy with your food stamps and if they think you're abusing them they'll cut you off. I saw a guy last week buy $25 worth of candy bars at the gas station with his bridge card. He won't have it for long. They really clamped down here since that girl hit the lotto and was using food stamps. She didn't report it to them. In all the years I've been on food stamps I've only seen 3 or 4 times people abuse them. I don't mess with human service. If they say do something I do it. If they cut me off I'd be homeless. Above all else medicaid is my top priority because of my health condition I need my medication.

a reply to: Grambler

I noticed a very concerning increase in the prices of everything in supermarkets lately. I decided to wait until after the Holidays before keeping a ledger on foods prices just in case the increase was just the reflection of supply and demand. I plan to start with my first trip to the market which should be before the end of the week.

It is a bit tricky for me because I am not a big meat eater and fruits and vegetables are always more expensive, and seasonal. I have already started my indoor garbage garden, will have to wait for the cold spells to stop before putting them in the outdoor garden. Though my brother's garden is doing quite well.


I would suggest that we pay attention. Nickel and dimeing us into starvation is not unheard of.

a reply to: Grambler

Sorry, but in the context of the knee jerk reactions I see in this thread, people shouldn't feel any guilt whatsoever about claiming their entitlements.

there is a good argument to be had that if the people (ie tax dollars) are paying for your food, its for your well being, and therefore it should be healthy food, not chips or soda, and it should not include luxuries like steak and lobster.

Tell me - do you honestly think that all your $ that go to defence are used to protect your family?

What about those $'s that helped make Defence contractors and mercenary's billions. If you want to take a moral stance then you should really hold that standard across all areas of Government wastage.

originally posted by: Aallanon
By the way Nancy could end this all tomorrow by securing our border.

Why not do that?????

Because Mexico needs $54 billion in aid. We can't afford the wall..