UFO MIB / US Gov Thread.

originally posted by: zazzafrazz
a reply to: karl 12

Also I have to watch the Scotland Aug 18 video you linked tonight, I was backpacking around there on that very date

Happy watching Zazz and that case really is a crazy one, seems the British MOD were rather interested in it as well - think it was Aug 27th 1992 but if you were in the area at that time then kudos points to you (any missing time?)

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This news clipping may well be nothing (or a very early MIB) - apparently a very strange chap who according to the police report appeared to be 'something out of this world' was spotted knocking about after a flying saucer flap in New Mexico, 1947.

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a reply to: karl 12

Thank you for that video. I must say it is an interesting one and a real linguistic adventure as well :-)

a reply to: karl 12

Aug 27th 1992 but if you were in the area at that time then kudos points to you (any missing time?)

Only for 8 hours after entering the Cock n Bull pub late that night

originally posted by: zazzafrazz
a reply to: karl 12

Aug 27th 1992 but if you were in the area at that time then kudos points to you (any missing time?)

Only for 8 hours after entering the Cock n Bull pub late that night

Weird that also happened to me on New Year's Eve - don't think it had anything to do with UFOs though

Interesting thread!

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originally posted by: karl 12

This man also claims to have witnessed a Peruvian UFO in a cliff and men in black (camouflage) cleaned up the area..

More men in black (camouflage) reports from El Yunque rainforest in Puerto Rico - hikers also report a non human entity:

See 33:50

a reply to: karl 12

This was a great video... Do you have any podcasts to reccomend, by the way? I have recently discovered podcasts :-)

originally posted by: beetee

Do you have any podcasts to reccomend, by the way? I have recently discovered podcasts :-)

Enjoyed this one with Dr Hynek's biographer mate - have also listened to some really interesting interviews over the years and there's a list here of some (IMHO) good researchers.

This case also popped up on another thread and there's a possibility of some cheeky trilby hat wearing MIBs being involved at the link below.

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Pretty awesome interview with former Police Officer John Hanson citing some of the lesser known historical British UFO reports from his co-authored series of books 'Haunted Skies'.

Witness Nigel Frapple describes the very strange object he encountered in 1954 ..and also goes on to explain how two 'MIBs' visited his home and threatened him about keeping quiet (stating that "You will be taken to a place and you won't be coming home again").

See 19:19

"This is the first of a ground-breaking new series compiled by former Police Officer John Hanson and his partner Dawn Holloway, together with David Sankey, a veteran UFO researcher and artist. The multi-part series covers British UFO sightings from 1940 to the present day. This first volume deals with UFO reports from 1940-1959; nineteen tumultuous years during which Britain won a war, lost an empire, buried a king, crowned a queen, and saw a new breed of consumer prosperity rise from the ashes of post-war austerity. People who have followed the UFO subject in any depth will not be surpised to discover that the UFOs encountered during these two decades follow the socio-political changes of the people who witnessed them to a remarkable degree. Haunted Skies is the most ambitious series of books ever attempted in the history of ufology, and will - no doubt - provide a new benchmark in the quality of such publications."


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Also a case of a retired Policeman witnessing a metallic saucer shaped object over a river and, after being questioned by the MOD, started to receive threatening phone calls - see 2:50:00.

New article from Nick Redfern describes woman in UFO witnessing humanoid in black suit, white shirt, thin black tie and old-style Fedora hat - he also states that MIBs are rarely seen on UFOs (see Venezuelan and Scottish thread cases).

M.I.B.: Rarely Seen On UFOs

If there is one thing which can be said about the Men in Black, it’s that they are inextricably tied to the UFO phenomenon. Alien abductees have been visited and threatened by the MIB. The Men in Black have intimidated people who have seen UFOs soaring in the skies above them. Researchers and investigators of the matter of unidentified flying objects have been intimidated into silence by the pale-faced, scrawny MIB. We see the Men in Black threatening people in their own homes, following them in black cars late at night, and terrifying them with threat-filled phone calls.

But, we rarely get reports of Men in Black seen on-board UFOs. Taking into consideration their undeniable links to all things flying and saucer-shaped, you would assume that the black-garbed things would be seen regularly on-board UFOs. Nope. In fact, the number of such cases on record are extremely small. As to why this might be, well, that’s an issue which remains baffling. In my own files, I only have a handful of such cases. One really stands out..


.As I said, I only have several such cases on record. And, admittedly, I’m puzzled as to why – for beings that are so deeply linked to the UFO mystery – the MIB should hardly ever be seen inside UFOs. Are they overlords – as Melanie suggested – who usually watch in stealth and from afar? Occasionally making themselves known to those who they select for abduction? The questions, potentially, are many. The answers? There are none. Yet…

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originally posted by: karl 12

Turns out UFO researcher Stan Gordon also had a bit of a shock when he enquired whether a certain UFO witness would be willing to undergo hypnosis and he replied 'You already did the hypnosis'.

Apparently 'an army guy and a guy in a suit' had already conducted it whilst posing as two of Gordon's UFO research team:

originally posted by: karl 12

This BC vid also contains quite a few other very weird MIB encounters and excerpts from a rare episode of 'Sightings' dealing with the subject (see 37:10).

In one other case a mystery gentleman also turns up and confiscates Bigfoot hair samples and photographs and also destroys footprints - see 32:00

Oh dear those two videos didn't last long, don't suppose anyone managed to download them before they were deleted?

There's some pretty far out CE3 reports being described in the presentation below as well as collated examples of UFOs over prisons, mines, graveyards etc. and instances where people have shot at UFOs or lost their jobs reporting them (also a couple of MIB encounters thrown in for good measure).


Video link:

Preston Dennet - The Weird And Unusual Aspects Of UFOs

originally posted by: karl 12

Lots of different opinions out there mate and terrestrial ones I've read range from the NSA, NRO, DIA, CIA, the Department Of Energy and Secret Service right through to Britain's DSTI, DI55 and P&SS

Relevant book on the British agencies mentioned above.

The complete story is detailed in a controversial new book called On the Trail of the Saucer Spies: UFOs and Government Surveillance by Nick Redfern, just published by Anomalist Books. Redfern, who was himself the subject of government surveillance for his interest in UFOs, uses on-the-record interviews, previously-classified official records, and testimony provided by insider-sources to tell this amazing story about how and why Military, Intelligence, and Government agencies of both the U.S. and U.K. have been secretly spying on UFO witnesses and researchers..

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Researcher Matthew Williams also describes below how he exposed DI55 UFO investigations through authenticated government documentation and how MPs were blatantly lied to in the Houses of Parliament.

See 36:00

Apparently Nick Pope's AIRSEC2A group is right at the bottom of the hierarchical set up and is basically just public relations (like all journalism these days).

Excerpt from Brad Steiger's research detailing Iowa farmer Gary See's experiences with UFOs and MIBs:





Nick Redfern on historical accounts of men (and women) in black intimidating UFO witnesses:

I've become more interested in these Men in Black folks recently, and not as a result of the new movie coming out. I'd like to see one in person, though, just to get a better feel for what's happening with them. However, since I've never had a good UFO sighting, the chances of them directly interacting with me are pretty slim.

But I wonder just how much they really are walking around among us going mostly unnoticed. After all, most of us are only focused on our daily tasks, and if they're kind of skulking around in the periphery it's very possible that they wouldn't necessarily draw our attention.

I like Nick Redfern's articles about them, and intend to start going through his books. He's pretty sure that there's something "supernatural" about them, but that's pretty hard to pin down. There has been a suggestion that like with Ouija boards and demons, they'll show up if you start showing an interest in them. So maybe my renewed interest in the subject will coax a couple of them out of the woodwork.

On the other hand, "be careful what you wish for," right?

a reply to: Blue Shift

Very well said mate - without sounding too out there it seems MIB reports do bridge the paranormal/poltergeist aspect of UFO sightings and there really are plenty of strange incidents where all aspects seem to occur in the same time and area - always remember you posting this Sagan 4th dimension video many moons ago and have never forgot it.




Jacques Vallee's comment below also seem pretty relevant (in a pretty vague way).

"First, there is a physical object. That may be a flying saucer or it may be a projection or it may be something entirely different. All we know about it is that it represents a tremendous quantity of electromagnetic energy in a small volume. I say that based upon the evidence gathered from traces, from electromagnetic and radar detection and from perturbations of the electromagnetic fields such as Dr. Claude Poher, the French space scientist, has recorded".

www.abovetopsecret.com...[

As does this one:

After asking various forensic pathologists to review his findings, Vallee claims that "what UFO witnesses describe as 'light' may, in fact, be a complex combination of ionising and non-ionising radiation. Many of the injuries described in Brazil, however, are consistent with the effects of high-power pulsed microwaves." (p.124)

www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: karl 12

Seriously, forget about the goofball, MIB movies, especially MIB International, a better movie, and a creepier movie, can be made by adapting some of these real life stories of civilians being silenced by men dressed in black shortly after sensitive UFO sightings.

a reply to: Reptilian_Queen

originally posted by: Reptilian_Queen
a reply to: karl 12

Seriously, forget about the goofball, MIB movies, especially MIB International, a better movie, and a creepier movie, can be made by adapting some of these real life stories of civilians being silenced by men dressed in black shortly after sensitive UFO sightings.

Yep couldn't agree more Reptilian_Queen - two more rather disturbing accounts below.



● Kent Senter describes his freaky MIB experience - see 36:30



● Bill Herrmann also describes his freaky MIB experience -see 21:30



Cheers.

a reply to: karl 12

Thanks for the links...every time I see Bills story I get extremely pissed off...as a former Multiple Abductee I must say that the way innocent Civilians have been treated under the purview of the Government and Military has been atrocious.People btter believe guys like this...this is the single most genuine believable case I have ever seen.

a reply to: karl 12

Thanks for the links...every time I see Bills story I get extremely pissed off...as a former Multiple Abductee I must say that the way innocent Civilians have been treated under the purview of the Government and Military has been atrocious.People btter believe guys like this...this is the single most genuine believable case I have ever seen.