Chinese Gene-Editing Experiment Loses Track of Patients, Alarming Technology’s Inventors

originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: LookingAtMars

Chinese "scientists".

Real scientists have this thing called ethics.

China is looking really bad right now.

Oh you really think that your own country are not working on things like this, and it's only the evil chinese! Surely not that gullible?

a reply to: Jay-morris

I made no such statements.

If you're intent on discussing this like a child please just stop replying to me.

originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: Jay-morris

I made no such statements.

If you're intent on discussing this like a child please just stop replying to me.

How am I acting like a child! Just stating the truth. I bet countries like America were doing ling before China even thought about it!

Real scientists have this thing called "ethics" Do you know every "real scientist"?

a reply to: Jay-morris

If science had anything to do with ethics it would be a religion rather than a tool.

Suppose one could argue that religion is also a tool, just without the repeatable observation and experimentation to reinforce results.

a reply to: Jay-morris

Do you know every "real scientist"?

I work with scientists and engineers all day. In the medical industry no less.

Ethics and compliance are inescapable for us.

a reply to: projectvxn

So ethically speaking, and a hypothetical question.

Say 5 billion people had to die, so the rest could obtain a form of immortality, perpetual paradise, attain world peace, and be able to depart this rock or even possibly colonize other worlds.

Would it be ethically right or wrong to allow that to happen?

Perspective can be a cruel mistress.

a reply to: andy06shake

Whats the perspective?

Killing is killing.

a reply to: Lysergic

Killing is what we do, to one another and to everything else we encounter.

The perspective is simple, from the surviving future population view a few centuries later, those poor 5 billion souls would have perished to secure their immortality, or at least hell of a lot longer lifetimes, and possible place amongst the stars.

Good and evil are simply human constructs we use to justify our actions. In the grand scheme of things, there are only really shades of grey.

a reply to: andy06shake

Ethics isn't an exercise in moral relativism.

a reply to: projectvxn

Nope, it is not as boolean for a start.

Ethics, more often than not, is the domain of philosophers, whereas science is the physicist's gaff.

Perspective though is generally a personal thing.

a reply to: andy06shake

Ethical behavior is an agreed upon standard of moral obligations as defined by societal norms, traditions, and the rule of law.

Scientific ethics in nations that take it seriously are typically enforced with fines and jail time.

a reply to: projectvxn

Unfortunately, the people responsible for unethical experimentation don't exactly care about anything other than furthering there agenda and cause.

They also tend to be affluent billionaires and/or corporations that separate themselves from any perceptible involvement in such nefarious activities by a right a good few degrees of separation.

Then there is compartmentalization to consider, their type are above the law really, or at least "they" are not playing the same game as you or i.

Let's just say if they were a teeshirt it may say ""Military Industrial Complex"" somewhere on the washing instructions.