how its possible?

originally posted by: Specimen
a reply to: james1947

Not what I was expecting as proof, other then an attempt of stars making mathematical symbols which is a bit esoteric.

And what were you expecting?

I'm attempting to provide an analysis of an artifact that could only be obtained via Extraterrestrials...unless you think that a probability of 5.84795e-87 or so is viable...(probability of Betty's map being random)

Anyway, it is what it is even if it is almost pure math...but then we all base significant life decisions on probabilities that are far worse...like pulling out in front of that 18 wheeler some distance away, traveling at something around the speed limit...maybe.

I just saying that a mathematical "proof" based in probability may not be what we wanted, it's not what I wanted either, but, considering that we live our lives based on probability, it seems perfectly reasonable that "proofs" of things might be probabilistic as well.

And those "math symbols" are just something I noticed. They made for convenient "blobs" for determining a manual match...Thank you for reading.

I was thinking about the "alternate reality" thing, and, it seems to me that there is a present day example of such a reality.

There is this place I go from time to time called Azeroth. It is another world, in another reality and only accessible via a computer application.

And, YES, it is a computer game, yet it is also an "alternate reality" that is filled with millions of intelligent beings who fight against sentient gods and AI for the very life of Azeroth.

That, boys and girls is as close to an alternate reality as we truly have in 2018.

originally posted by: humanoidlord
a reply to: james1947

Who the hell is Thomas Morrison?!? And, "debating styles"? You mean using real science and information?

a guy who just like you, likes to make fun of me everytime i bring up my theories

I don't "make fun" of your hypotheses...I do however point out things of science that you seem to leave out.?.

By the way: what you have is called a hypotheses...and idea that makes sense, is plausible, yet has little to no supporting evidence or data. What I have is a theory...a hypotheses that has some supporting evidence or data.

i already showed you how the maps are different, but you obvioulsy don't like arguments angaist your theory

Yes you indeed did try to make that assertion, however, I subsequently showed you in my paper, and website that there was indeed a REAL match, that was subsequently backed up by the application of Computer Vision A.I. that determined that the match was 99.1% Your attempt to debunk that AI match was a rather unscientific knee jerk response that was shown to be utter BS.

originally posted by: james1947

originally posted by: Specimen
a reply to: james1947

Not what I was expecting as proof, other then an attempt of stars making mathematical symbols which is a bit esoteric.

And what were you expecting?

I'm attempting to provide an analysis of an artifact that could only be obtained via Extraterrestrials...unless you think that a probability of 5.84795e-87 or so is viable...(probability of Betty's map being random)

Anyway, it is what it is even if it is almost pure math...but then we all base significant life decisions on probabilities that are far worse...like pulling out in front of that 18 wheeler some distance away, traveling at something around the speed limit...maybe.

I just saying that a mathematical "proof" based in probability may not be what we wanted, it's not what I wanted either, but, considering that we live our lives based on probability, it seems perfectly reasonable that "proofs" of things might be probabilistic as well.

And those "math symbols" are just something I noticed. They made for convenient "blobs" for determining a manual match...Thank you for reading.

So Betty ends up drawing a constellation that no one seen before with the naked eye, and years later it real. However she can only did it under hypnosis with surprising accuracy.

Yet with such accuracy she couldn't pin point any other details about their trade routes between those stars, let alone saying what being traded or how many colonies they would have.

Although I do wonder how long she was able to peer into their navigational system to be able to subconsciously draw it such precision.

Hmmm...it a tough one.

a reply to: humanoidlord

Personally I think the following is far fetched:

The idea of evolution. Then the idea of evolution on a distant planet. Then the idea of that evolution producing intelligent life. Then the idea of that intelligent life developing inter-stellar travel to sort of 'hover' around places on this planet, or mutilate cattle and so forth.

But, as far fetched as it is, it's more comforting for people that the paranormal explanation.

Because with paranormal, then people have to consider the validity of other concepts. Concepts such as religion. Concepts such as God. These concepts have the potential to make us feel much more helpless than aliens from other planets explanation.

At least, more or less, this is my take.

originally posted by: humanoidlord
a reply to: andy06shake

agreed
disclosure already happened, in 1969 when vallee released passport to magonia

Okay HL, I finally bought this book, it arrived today (paid for 1 day shipping). If you’re saying this was disclosure (in 1969) after all your research — then I am very interested.

I will admit, I am well aware that all this phenomena is IDH, from my own personal experiences.

BTW, have you read Graham Hancock’s ‘Supernatural’. If you haven’t, you’re in for a real treat! 🍻

a reply to: james1947

Hihi.

I'm finding this interesting.

When people say they want evidence, do you think they've already decided what they would class as evidence? I suppose the scientific method tries to find a way to have evidence that can be corroborated and discussed. Evidence which can be submitted to a court of law would be more inclusive.

Would you class the Bible as evidence? Of course plenty of people do.

Anyway, it just makes me wonder about the whole discussion idea thing, if people are mostly willing to consider their own criteria of evidence.

Anyway, UFOs:
1. They exist, because not everything that flies can be identified.
2. The phenomena (and related phenomena: cattle mutilations for example) have occurred enough that the topic itself warrants conversation.

originally posted by: humanoidlord
a reply to: Jay-morris

again the "it could be a lot of things at the same time" theory has one problem: earth isn't a interesting planet in the great scale of things

I am going to disagree with you here.

What if we are very interesting. In the sense that we are a massive science project. Possibly, created by beings from other dimensions.

We humans on earth, are in a quarantine zone. With everyone debating how the hell we got here.

This planet has proven that it has ancient mysteries that we can’t understand. Previous advanced civilizations — building megalithic structures, all over the globe.

As George Knapp said about the tricksters in the video ‘Maybe they are doing it to teach us’.

Maybe we are special, in our own way. Thats what makes this reality so f@k’in bizarre to experience a lifetime in. And that’s why we come here. The perfectly screwed dualistic reality.

a reply to: humanoidlord

how it's possible? that despite all the evidence angaist, ETH is still theory number one for UFO phenomena and related subjects (cattle mutilations, MIBs, and yes sasquatch)?
how it's possible?

Maybe a new gospel in the making atached with a bible 2.0 of the future?

originally posted by: james1947
I was thinking about the "alternate reality" thing, and, it seems to me that there is a present day example of such a reality.

There is this place I go from time to time called Azeroth. It is another world, in another reality and only accessible via a computer application.

And, YES, it is a computer game, yet it is also an "alternate reality" that is filled with millions of intelligent beings who fight against sentient gods and AI for the very life of Azeroth.

That, boys and girls is as close to an alternate reality as we truly have in 2018.

You have obviously never been outside of your own head, for one second. Or, maybe its just been way too long, since you did.

Relax and release your mind. You will find that there is so much more to this reality then you can possibly imagine.

I recommend an herbal remedy, possibly of the fungus kind.

a reply to: 0bserver1

The Bible already explains UFOs.

a reply to: Assemble

Missing quite a bit regarding our precursor Nephilim cousins, that's a given.

Allegedly it may also have contained significant information regarding reincarnation until certain books were removed.

a reply to: andy06shake



I made a thread on it all the same, it's just a little thread. The sermon is good though. Take a look at it if you've got time www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: Assemble

To be honest i just like the stories.

They did a hatchet job mate where the Bible is concerned, both testaments. Then there is the fact that Christianity is essentially a collection of stories and parables from other previous religions to consider.

Truth is its all about Sun worship, not Son worship.

Merry Christmas Everyone at ATS.

a reply to: james1947

I don't "make fun" of your hypotheses...I do however point out things of science that you seem to leave out.?. By the way: what you have is called a hypotheses...and idea that makes sense, is plausible, yet has little to no supporting evidence or data. What I have is a theory...a hypotheses that has some supporting evidence or data.

ok i guess

Yes you indeed did try to make that assertion, however, I subsequently showed you in my paper, and website that there was indeed a REAL match, that was subsequently backed up by the application of Computer Vision A.I. that determined that the match was 99.1% Your attempt to debunk that AI match was a rather unscientific knee jerk response that was shown to be utter BS.

let's not go there again please

a reply to: Assemble

paranormal =/= magic
paranormal = fortean phenomena
keep that in mind

a reply to: KKLOCO

i would really be surprised if i discovered that the TPTB knew more than what vallee and keel wrote about the subject
its quite unlikely, so i consider it disclosure

a reply to: KKLOCO

i agree with you. but is this the only planet where this nonsense happens?
somehow i doubt that

a reply to: 0bserver1

yep, in the sense jesus was another frame of reference