Need help with "shadow people" (sleep paralysis)

a reply to: blueman12

"Makes sense that uppers would induce stressful psychological situations"

Pretty much.

a reply to: mamabeth

Huh? I'm just saying I rather have spiritual (non-religious bias) perspectives or psychological perspectives. No disrespect to any religion. I just don't like religions personally. Especially when I see "Jerusalem belongs to Israel", basically inducing more violence between Palestinians and Israelites.

Honestly, not sure why you even have that in your bio. Very divisive... But I think that's another subject.

originally posted by: blueman12
a reply to: Realtruth

Hmm.. interesting. So do you think more practice with meditation and OBE's would better suit the person to dealing with stressful "shadow people"?

Cause she has pretty bad experiences… I'm just trying to think of techniques or practices to help her prevent or change the course of those experiences

Well unfortunately they have something to tell her, or share with her. I believe they are attracted to us like moths to a light-bulb, but they do have a consciousness as well.

If she can maintain ludcidity, then I highly suggest she ask them what they want to say, or need, if they do not respond she can dismiss them buy stating "If you have something to say, or tell me do so, if not, you are not welcome here" . Simple as that, there are universal laws that are in place, just like there are laws here in our reality, except those laws are absolute. Distortion, duality, chaos, and manipulation only exist in 3D earth, from what I've experienced so far.

She'll be fine, she just needs to make her intention clear. They'll leave, if they come back it most likely is not the same ones, so rinse and repeat. They are some how attracted to her. Why? well she'll need to find that out.

a reply to: andy06shake

Yea, but she takes maybe one coffee and (maybe) a beer a day. My immediate response was of health and she is pretty damn good at it. She exercises a lot, eats vegetarian/occasional meat and only consumes some caffeine in the morning/afternoon.

Honestly, I think it's either stress or spiritual lol. I can't tell which. I just hate to see her messaging me after waking up suffocating.

a reply to: Realtruth
I would agree normally. As I look forward to being in these experiences. Yet, she seems to mostly experiencing extremely stressful situations with beings looking to suffocate or belittle her into total fear.

a reply to: blueman12

Another thing that may greatly help is a Salt lamp. I've heard from a friend that they (Shadow people) don't like whatever comes out of them, so they stay away.

It's hearsay, however I trust this persons experience. I've seen them as cheap as $15 dollars at homedepot. Worth a shot if she has a hard time dealing with them.

Again have her speak her intentions before she goes to sleep. If she doesn't want them around, make it so by words to paper, leave it on the nightstand.

a reply to: blueman12

Could be both or none of the above.

A wee bit of ""herbal"" help before bedtime might just sort the problem, if you know what i mean, especially if it's stress related.

Good for all that ails us really.

a reply to: Realtruth

Ill tell her to try that, but she may think I'm a little coo-coo

a reply to: andy06shake

Weed? It's the phillipeans mate! They kill people for drugs there

I promised her I would smoke her out once she traveled to the u.s. for work. It took some convincing, they really think weed is a hardcore drug there !

originally posted by: blueman12
a reply to: Realtruth

Ill tell her to try that, but she may think I'm a little coo-coo

Well think of it this way, we are born in this world with no user manual, but are fed a bunch of fairy-tales from ages past, that many people subscribe to as fact without ever taking the time to look within.

Looking within, and casting aside dogmas and social programming is very scary to many people, but once past this a self-empowerment starts to form.

a reply to: blueman12

Good God Man its 2018!

Don't do that then!

My bad.

a reply to: Realtruth

totally agree.. ever since I was in high school. However, spiritual is a individual path, and there is not objective truth. That's the problem with convincing anyone it might be real.

Hey do you have any good techniques to OBE? I got to strong vibrations a few times, but never much futher. Any good techniques you know of?

a reply to: blueman12

Ahhh,now I see...because I support Israel my advice seems worthless.

a reply to: mamabeth

No.. Sorry.. Feel free to give your advice and I will listen. I just have strong views regarding the blind support given to Israel. Especially since your tag includes "Jerusalem belongs to Israel".

I just think that anybody who has such a divisive tag, might have a divisive opinion elsewhere. And im not looking for such in t his thread. . Just help.

a reply to: mamabeth

Well, many a wee Palestinian laddie probably wakes up in the middle of the night, with nightmares, dreaming about evil Israeli soldiers at the bottom of his bed, that's, unfortunately, a given in today's world.

But your correct your view on the world nor political ideologies have much to do with the subject really.

originally posted by: blueman12

Hey do you have any good techniques to OBE? I got to strong vibrations a few times, but never much futher. Any good techniques you know of?

Here's my techs that came from 3 books, kinda of a hybrid. They're very empowering, and will make a huge impact on your reality.

One of the best books I ever read for Lucid Dreaming was by Stephen LeBerge. And two out of body books are: Rick Stack Out of body adventures, and Adventures Beyond the Body don't remember the author on that one. All of these states are related.

Also try and not to use any mind/body altering things in the beginning so you gain your balance. I truly believe OBE's/similar are our universal right, but we are caught in a matrix that tries to deny us this.

All lower emotions hold us in our reality.

Things to look for when doing an OBE are a buzzing, or vibrating state like your head/body has a vibrator in it, once there you're on a threshold of projecting out, however most people freak out, at this stage.

Those books I mentioned are paramount to understanding in layman's terms, but effective.

Good luck

a reply to: Realtruth

Ill have to write those down. I gotten pretty good at doing lucid dreams. I'm just always in a drunken/sluggish state constantly. Even if I move around for a long time. Only a few times Iv'e gotten strong vibrations that I might OBE, but I get too excited and FUBAR it.

a reply to: Realtruth

How much did you meditate before being able to OBE?

originally posted by: blueman12
a reply to: Realtruth

How much did you meditate before being able to OBE?

Not once actually my first OBE was involuntary, and scared the absolute #hit out of me. I honestly had no idea what it even was. Here's my thread on it.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

But after I religiously meditate and relax my entire body/mind/and spirit to OBE.

I am of the belief that "shadow people" is a catch-all term that is horribly vague.

Personally I suspect that they are forms of life that exist out of phase from our normal perception of "reality." Perhaps even something like "life" that absorbs certain portions of the light spectrum, as opposed to reflecting it in the way we are accustomed. That could even include "echoes" of the daily life that we are familiar with.

In my experience, they are far, far, far too diverse to lump it all together. It'd be like lumping all known life on earth into one basket and trying to make assumptions based off of that.

Coupled with hypnopompic and hypnagogic states, its a pretty unknown, vast realm of things.

For your friend, I would suggest meditation and then if they feel motivated to do so, branch out from there after a while. Meditation is also a horribly vague term, so a bit of research and experimentation can be helpful. A bit like finding what music one likes.