President Trump Signs E.O. that Creates OPPORTUNITY ZONES...Another Promise Kept.

Sprucing up neghborhoods isn't what this is about. It is about encouraging prvate business interests to build in these zones. Manufacturing is coming back believe it or not.
If you take an honest look at how Trump makes his money, ie actually building things like hotels and casinos, then you have to come to the conclusion that more people with more money in their pockets is a very good thing for him. Dirt poor peasants don't stay at hotels and gamble disposable income.
His motives for helping the middle class may be selfish and profit motivated but I for one can accept it.

originally posted by: 727Sky
I saw his speech on youtube about the E.O. If I remember correctly Ben Carson will be heading up the program. Trump really has tried to keep his campaign promises from what I have seen

You're SPOT ON 727Sky! And, if President Trump wanted to do this to score political points, he would have signed the Opportunity Zone Executive Order just before the mid-term elections. But he is NOT a deceitful politician.

Laura Ingram (FoxNews) had a powerful show tonight about the signing ceremony yesterday, and demonstrated how Trump delivers ACTION, while Democrats have only talked a good game for the past xx years.

Odd that this is an E.O. instead of a bill he could have helped push through congress. No GOP members want to take up a bipartisan bill that contains things that both Sanders and Clinton ran on in 2016 and many in the DNC are on the record supporting? Did he not even ask the DNC?

Odd choice, because the Executive cant budget money from no where like congress can so where is the money for this coming from?

They're calling it the White House Opportunity and Revitalization Council. WHORC. Shoulda went with "Society" or something else that started with S or E, they would have had an epic acronym!

A great deal of the Trump family fortune was made by building subsidized housing for economically challenged families at inflated costs. In other words, Trump's fortune was paid for by people like you and me.

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
a reply to: odzeandennz

aka gentrification. 

That was my first thought too but this does not have to be a bad thing. If contractors are required to use local Labour then it could pull a lot of people out of the ghetto.

If the contractors were required to use local labor then it probably wouldn't get built.

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: Grimpachi

Rather than bitching 'because Trump' people should be saying how can we improve this and make it even better, thank you Trump.

You're delusional, you think people all people want to live like you do, I hate to break it to you but no.. You are very wrong.

Wait so, people don't want healthy lives and economic improvement for themselves?

Not sure what you're trying to argue here.

Surely you aren't arguing that ghettos are a good thing.

I'm arguing that coming in sprucing up the neighborhoods will be problematic, unless a solution is found for the people who reside there currently, when the rents increase and the people there have to move on where will they go?

Wherever the section 8 housing takes them? This is a prime moment for minorities to change their economic status, seeing as higher education is more attainable for them than ever before. They just have to want to.

Will be hard for many when its seen as a treachery against the race..

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: Grimpachi

Rather than bitching 'because Trump' people should be saying how can we improve this and make it even better, thank you Trump.

You're delusional, you think people all people want to live like you do, I hate to break it to you but no.. You are very wrong.

Wait so, people don't want healthy lives and economic improvement for themselves?

Not sure what you're trying to argue here.

Surely you aren't arguing that ghettos are a good thing.

I'm arguing that coming in sprucing up the neighborhoods will be problematic, unless a solution is found for the people who reside there currently, when the rents increase and the people there have to move on where will they go?

Wherever the section 8 housing takes them? This is a prime moment for minorities to change their economic status, seeing as higher education is more attainable for them than ever before. They just have to want to.

Will be hard for many when its seen as a treachery against the race..

I agree with what you say here, I just don't think people will change, not all people are geared for the world we live in and some even want to see it burn. I guess it's an issue as the populace gets larger and larger.

originally posted by: carewemust
But he is NOT a deceitful politician.

I can't figure out if you're a troll, or just really that ate up and brainwashed. He's easily the most habitual lying politician in our lifetime. What's your definition of deceit?

originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: carewemust
But he is NOT a deceitful politician.

He's easily the most habitual lying politician in our lifetime.

Huh?

Do you know who his opponent was in the 2016 election? I’ll give you a clue, she’s easily the most habitual lying politician in our lifetime.

Can you name even three other politicians at all?

This comment is the very reason why the terms ‘hivemind’ ‘NPC’ and ‘brainwashed leftwing nutjob who needs to turn cnn off’ are in such common use today.

a reply to: tadaman
heck yea bro, I'll ride to that !
a reply to: Xcalibur254
Well yea, that is how a city expands. That neighborhood is further north from the Central Park Village CRA and has some nice historic homes. We cannot be having month to month drunk asshats putting holes in walls ramming through garage doors in these historic homes from the early 20th century.

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
a reply to: odzeandennz

aka gentrification. 

That was my first thought too but this does not have to be a bad thing. If contractors are required to use local Labour then it could pull a lot of people out of the ghetto.

Yes - It sure will pull a lot of people out of the ghetto, and make them go elsewhere.

Replacing poor people with hipsters with microbreweries and expensive... everything is not fighting poverty. It's just a way to "clean out the riff raff" and make business friends of Trump rake in some more dough.

originally posted by: Uberdoubter

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
a reply to: odzeandennz

aka gentrification. 

That was my first thought too but this does not have to be a bad thing. If contractors are required to use local Labour then it could pull a lot of people out of the ghetto.

Yes - It sure will pull a lot of people out of the ghetto, and make them go elsewhere.

Replacing poor people with hipsters with microbreweries and expensive... everything is not fighting poverty. It's just a way to "clean out the riff raff" and make business friends of Trump rake in some more dough.

That's exactly what it is, and as we can see in this thread that's what some people think MAGA represents.

Ghetto's complain that the lack of investment is the result of a racist government. Government invest into ghettos raising property values its considered "gentrification" and its racist. White people move out of a neighborhood its racist, white people move into a minority neighborhood its racist. I've come to the conclusion that white people will be hated no matter what good they do now and in the future because of some old dead dudes that lived long before our time.

a reply to: Uberdoubter

So your solution is to make sure the ghettos stay ghettos forever.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: Uberdoubter

So your solution is to make sure the ghettos stay ghettos forever.

Poor people living in ghettos are not helped by replacing the ghettos with trendy hipster villages where you most likely can't afford to live if you started out in the ghettos to begin with.

It's a difficult subject - poor people is not a homogenous group - despite the ultra conservative view that poor people just "should have worked harder". Raising minimum wages is not really any help, either - that just means everyone else ABOVE minimum wage should get more as well.

a reply to: Uberdoubter

Tis better to try something, than to do NOTHING.
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America is becoming more awesome daily, with President Trump at the helm!

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
You know, color me silly, but I think I would rather have income generating hipsters that actually have money to spend generating higher tax revenue for the school district and EMS departments bringing a community up, rather than wife beating drug addicted alcoholics who cannot even show up to work on time, if at all, bringing a community down. Or the dealers on the corners.

You know, all the things you hypocrites complain about that ruin a city, I find it funny that tackling that issue and clearing the riff raff only leads to more complaints. I mean, I even demonstrated with sources, links, and my experience how these programs bring a place up.

If you guys had an opportunity to get lost down Nebraska avenue as recent as the early 2000's and end up at Central Park village, you would be on here complaining how could such neighborhoods exist in America! Think of CPV as Tampa's previous and only bit of Humboldt park in Chicago. If you were not from there, you would be told quite aggressively to piss off, even while walking down the public sidewalk. Ignoring threats would on ly embolden them to surround you or run you off if you were smart.

There was literally nothing of worth there. The #ty youngsters would wait for suckers that just left the train station a few blocks away to mug and rob. Your best option was the drive right passed, and if you needed to get to the other street, it was best to ignore any of the cross streets that went between the projects and the houses across from them and go all the way around. Youd just end up road blocked and turned around anyways like so many others that got lost trying to leave Ybor city. This was also one of only three neighborhoods that I remember where the police actually had signs up explaining you could be subject to a shakedown if you looked suspicious which pretty much meant walking around with a hoody or on a bike with no light. Or if you were a black/hispanic looking mofo. The other two were also projects which are now gone, and so are those horrendous signs.

See, no more #ty residents, no more shakedowns. See how that works??

a reply to: Uberdoubter
Poor is a state of mind. Cubans and oher immigrants come to this country poor, ALOT. Do you have any idea how many Cubans have come to Tampa broke, and are now owning successful car dealerships, mortgage companies, construction companies, mechanic shops restaurants etc.. etc..

When you mind blames the world for your hardships, that is a poor state of mind, and will never lead to success. The kind of people you are trying to be virtuous for mostly have very little to no real work ethic. They are the types to say "that aint my job or my department!" and not even hear a paying customer out for their needs because they just want to continue standing around doing nothing. They beg for more hours, and then call out when you give it to them.

If you want to call me elitist for saying our community is better off without individuals with that mind set, than so be it. Those minds are not who help fund local services through their taxes, nor do they motivate others to have good morale and take pride in their jobs. If you would like we would be happy to move them all into your own personal neighborhood and see how fine you all get along.