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originally posted by: odzeandennz
originally posted by: whywhynot
a reply to: JAGStorm
I have not knowingly bought Chinese for years for a number of reasons. US doing this will certainly cause short term pain but long term gain. Iām all for it.
your entire home is probably made in China to some degree.
China can do what they want. we dare not push them too hard. ..ever...
originally posted by: whywhynot
originally posted by: odzeandennz
originally posted by: whywhynot
a reply to: JAGStorm
I have not knowingly bought Chinese for years for a number of reasons. US doing this will certainly cause short term pain but long term gain. Iām all for it.
your entire home is probably made in China to some degree.
China can do what they want. we dare not push them too hard. ..ever...
Deny ignorance, you donāt know me.
My home is a built of American (Montana) grown logs.
originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
originally posted by: whywhynot
originally posted by: odzeandennz
originally posted by: whywhynot
a reply to: JAGStorm
I have not knowingly bought Chinese for years for a number of reasons. US doing this will certainly cause short term pain but long term gain. Iām all for it.
your entire home is probably made in China to some degree.
China can do what they want. we dare not push them too hard. ..ever...
Deny ignorance, you donāt know me.
My home is a built of American (Montana) grown logs.
Sure it is, what about all the fittings ,electrics, appliances, furniture etc, it's all american made right
originally posted by: JAGStorm
www.cnn.com...
Shenzhen-based electronic parts supplier Menpad said Monday that it would give a 15% subsidy to any employees who bought phones from Chinese companies Huawei and ZTE. 'Stop purchasing US brands'
So they want to sell sell sell, but then tighten the purse strings when it comes to buying.
People can dislike President Trump all they want, but he is right, we have been screwed for years when it comes to trade.
He is just the first one to admit it.
This is one thing that has always bothered me:
China does a lot of manufacturing for foreign businesses, including U.S. companies. They ship raw materials to China. Factory workers build the final products and ship them back to the United States. In this way, a lot of China's so-called "exports" are technically American products.
We need to bring all US manufacturing back home. We saw the writing on the wall over 20 years ago. I read somewhere we raise chickens here, send them to China to be butchered, and then send them back, and that's what's in our grocery stores. I personally don't want any of my food touched or made by the Chinese. They do not care about food safety and have been shown many times to have bastardized products. Yes in the US we have food poisoning outbreaks, but we don't see companies substituting real food with plastics like China has done with rice and baby formula.
We are both supporting slave labor, and shooting ourselves in the foot at the same time by doing allowing our raw products to be processed over there.
originally posted by: generik
a reply to: JAGStorm
not only are we supporting things like slave labor, but we are also providing the support, especially financial for China's aggression. not to mention supporting everything China does in regards to things like human rights violations that China is so well known for. what we should do is outright BAN Chinese products and Chinese parts within products from being sold in "free countries" since by buying from the Chinese we are in effect supporting just about everything we are against. such a ban of course could be lifted once China has abandoned it's expansionism and fixes it's human rights issues. like for example pulling out of the disputed areas and those illegal islands they have been building, and their claiming of territory that is not theirs. recognise Taiwan as a free and separate country. stop their slave labor, stop the Chinese drug trade, stop their support of terrorists, grant religious freedom and stop persecuting pretty much every religion in China.
originally posted by: generik
yet i recall hearing a couple or so years back that many of the iphones stolen from around the world actually make their way to China, to be sold illegally on the black market. because by using out of country phones the Chinese can apparently get around the great firewall of China. that firewall that restricts the everyday Chinese person from fully accessing the world wide web. and thus having free access to other than Chinese propaganda and things China may want to keep from the populace. so just how many American cellphones are even sold to the Chinese in the first place, other than the already illegal ones? add that onto the fact that an American cellphone is likely rather out of reach for the average Chinese citizen due to cost, unlike the rather cheap Chinaphones.