The last WTC column, Column No. 1,001 B of 2 World Trade Center

a reply to: InhaleExhale

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: dojozen

True or false. The collapse of the towers was initiated at the floors of the jet impacts?

they already stated with confidence that one must be in fantasy land to think it wasn't.

i asked the same question 2 pages back.

They replied with a little less confidence and said they remembered or recalled it was the basement.


They started really trying to dodge questions with replies accusing me of being a shill.

a reply to: InhaleExhale


If you need someone to explain it to you...you may want to try watching some videos and reading up a little more on it... you are asking for a college education with a kindergarten learning level.

a reply to: dojozen




I take it this is will be the rest of your rep[lies

YouTube videos to speak for you?

Read the terms and conditions of ATS, I couldn't care less to report you but when you post a video you need to explain what its about and why its relevant.

originally posted by: dojozen
a reply to: InhaleExhale


If you need someone to explain it to you...you may want to try watching some videos and reading up a little more on it... you are asking for a college education with a kindergarten learning level.

And again.

Again.

There is no proof of detonations with the force to cut steel columns. Your faith in the composed narrative of the truth movement is bewildering.

Below is the collapse initiation of WTC 2



the-pre-collapse-inward-bowing-of-wtc2.t4760/
www.metabunk.org...


There is zero evidence of a shockwave with the force to cut steel columns.

Again, video of columns buckling.

No video of columns being cut. And the floor system completely collapsed, leaving vertical columns standing for a period of time in its wake. The vertical columns fell last.

Yes, a big building that had 29 floors fall into itself from columns buckling at the points of jet impacts will creat lots of dust as the falling mass shears the floor connections on the way down.

No please produce video, audio, seismic evidence of supposed shockwaves that initiated the collapse. The loud booms and shockwaves that should be present before the building even moves. The ejection and flashes the building moves.

And please address how a CD system would even survive the jet impacts and fires to initiate the collapse on the floors struck by the jets.

Funny you don’t want to talk about the most important part, the actual collapse initiation. I guess it speaks for itself, with less items to create false narratives from?

originally posted by: InhaleExhale
a reply to: dojozen

I take it this is will be the rest of your rep[lies

YouTube videos to speak for you?

Read the terms and conditions of ATS, I couldn't care less to report you but when you post a video you need to explain what its about and why its relevant.

sure, from now on, will post a watch it to understand it note with any videos for you....don't ask for something and then act like do not know what it is...unless you need someone to explain it all to you, before you watch it...

May be best, to not even bother watching it, as you may just expect everyone to put into words what video and pictures and witnesses and experts say... as sure we can get you some transcripts.;

originally posted by: dojozen
a reply to: InhaleExhale


If you need someone to explain it to you...you may want to try watching some videos and reading up a little more on it... you are asking for a college education with a kindergarten learning level.

explain what to me?


Why you keep dodging simple questions but keep replying ?

Yes

can you link me to a video explaining that?

I am asking for a college education?

I asked you to read the thread as some of things you are posting and making accusations just shows you haven't.


I thought I was shill so why would I watch videos to explain ...not really sure what you are on about when say what I need explaining other than what I said, you dodging simple questions.

a reply to: InhaleExhale
Great, now we are getting somewhere...what time is break>?

a reply to: dojozen

May be best, to not even bother watching it, as you may just expect everyone to put into words what video and pictures and witnesses and experts say... as sure we can get you some transcripts.;

I asked before and now again

why some?


are you trying to hide something by only saying to hear and read some and not all?

and I am accused of being a shill, you are asking to not view all the evidence but only view some.

sure, from now on, will post a watch it to understand it note with any videos for you....don't ask for something and then act like do not know what it is...unless you need someone to explain it all to you, before you watch it...

Its not for me buddy but actually help for you so you don't get your posts deleted for not following the terms and conditions of the site.

Could you be anymore idiotic, I am trying to help you here

other posts asking you things.


Th transcript are all over ATS, links to all transcripts can be found, even the many gigabytes of emergency services communications that day can be found relatively easily.

a reply to: dojozen

Ironic when you cannot even site evidence of a detonation with the force to cut steel columns to initiate collapse. Or explain how CD systems survived the jet impacts and fires.

a reply to: dojozen

Can you show any another building buckling and disintegrating into dust, like these did...?

No because no other twin 110 story buildings have been hit by planes.


That is how you make comparison, you know like your claims its demolition, show other comparisons that show collapse starting at the middle, or after you change you claim, show what a non standard demolitions looks like as that is a first.

But why ask to show comparison when you fail to do so after you say its fantasy to not know its demolition from watching.

then you fail to show videos of what a non standard demolition looks like after you changed and said that.

Since you are claiming to be an expert, can you tell us a little bit about yourself and where you work and education?

Now you are asking for personal info from posters?

Can you show who you are and what you say is not dead set delusional fantasy based on programing from any number of your tube videos?

a reply to: neutronflux

Does nano thermite make any sound, other than sizzling, when it is cutting and disintegrating or cutting steel?


Molten lava steel ring a bell?

Scientists Find Unignited Explosive Residues in WTC Dust?

Presume you have reviewed this?

Seismic signals were recorded on September 11 2001 during the period when the North and South Towers (respectively WTC1 and WTC2) were penetrated and collapsed, as well as during the collapse of Building 7 of the WTC (also known as WTC7), a building which had not been hit by a plane.

911blogger.com...

a reply to: InhaleExhale

sounds like you are still trying to see the wizard and oz is just a little further...you will be fine, once you get there.

3 buildings fell and if you want to think it was because of anything other than a controlled demolition...be our guest.

a reply to: dojozen

Why would you cite molten metal from the rubble pile where metals with lower melting points like silver and gold were recovered from, with no thermal imaging evidence the pile was ever hot enough to support molten steel. With no record of large pools of frozen steel recovered or sent to recycling. With no proof of partially melted columns. Invoking a thermite study that confused paint chips for thermite, by a study that never completed the discovery process by sending the samples to anindependent lab for conformation. Then you mentioned seismic evidence? While there is video of columns buckling to initiate collapse. With no evidence of cut columns, no thermal evidence the steel was exposed to the temperatures at which thermite burns, with no thermal imaging evidence of fires burning at the temperatures thermite burns at, and the whole point of nano thermite is it acts more like an explosive than a cutting charge.

a reply to: neutronflux

one way might be, they were remote controlled planes and the target floors and location of impact, was predetermined.

As far as evidence of explosions and detonations by witnesses who were there and heard and saw it, that you can find on the web, if you just looked...do not have much to offer you, as far as citations...either you have seen before or you have not, and seeing how you seem some fixated on it...would think you would have watched some of the documentaries on it...that all confirmed was explosives...

If you want to think buildings collapse like that, 3 of them, in that manner, without any help from the inside...by our guest.

Buildings do not turn into molten pits of lava from the steel and cement and people do not disintegrate if and when a building collapse, unless there is some cause...not even pancakes and koolaid, going to make it happen.

What would make a building and everyone and thing in it, turn to dust?

a reply to: neutronflux

Leslie Robertson Confirms Molten Metal in WTC Basement: www.youtube.com...



Joe Allbaugh, the Director of FEMA, interviewed by Bryant Gumbel of CBS news on October 10 2001:

GUMBEL: We’re seeing a lot of video of smoke pouring up from the debris.

ALLBAUGH: Correct.

GUMBEL: And we’re hearing there are places where temperatures are still approaching and sometimes exceeding a thousand degrees.

ALLBAUGH: That’s right.

GUMBEL: Why? Why do we have these hot spots? What’s going on?

911encyclopedia.com...
the list goes on and on and is extensive.

a reply to: dojozen

there ae a lot of words to read thru on your link (thanks), my initial thoughts (i work in construction), i can not (as yet) find the part where Andre Rousseau compares the soundwaves to data he has collected from other CD, could you highlight that section for me (sorry I have a son, homework is less important than my family life), as whatever the Seismic Data for 9/11 shows it should be comparable to other CDs, yes?

From the early parts of your link, something just seems of though

Seismologists are puzzled in their analysis of signals recorded at this time

and yet they state almost conclusively

It gives rise to a new interpretation that renders the assertions of the "official version" null and void.

a reply to: dojozen

Molten steel has no context. Metals with lower melting points were recovered. There is no thermal imaging or other evidence the pile was hot enough to support molten steel, much less cause molten steel, much less any evidence anything burned at the temperatures thermite burns at. There is no evidence the columns were cut floor by floor by thermite. The vertical and core columns fell last, and there is no visible molten material on them as they toppled in after the complete collapse of the floor system. The pile was cooled with water. Water causes violent expanding releases of steam that offen ejects molten steel in the upheaval when in contact with molten steel. With no credible study of thermite that ever completed the discovery process.

a reply to: dojozen

On seismic evidence
The historical seismic activity shows a building collapse is expected to transmit Rayleigh waves.

Rayleigh waves would change in amplitude as items with different masses with different kinetic energy hit the ground.

“Underground explosions would have produced strong P waves” which are not present in the WTC seismic data.

I have produced evidence a building not properly prepared for an implosion by explosives would eject shrapnel. Shrapnel that would have sprayed bystanders, the street, and adjacent buildings. There is no evidence of shrapnel being ejected while the towers under went inward bowing of columns resulting in buckling leading to collapse.

The 1993 WTC bombing of 1000 pounds of explosives blow out at least one wall and caused substantial structural damage, but did not cause detectable siesmic activity 15 kilometers at a former seismic station. But you claimed LEDO recorded seismic activity from detonations at the WTC 31 kilometers away, but there is no audio or video evidence of detonations powerful enough to cut steel columns from footage of the collapse of the WTC towers? No evidence of ejected shrapnel during the buckling of the vertical columns?

To remain relevant, the biggest pusher of controlled demolition, Architects and Engineers, abandoned the narrative of kinetic detentions brought down the towers in favor of thermal cuttting devices?

You cite a seismic narrative debunked, abandoned by the biggest group pushing WTC CD, and ridiculed by other conspiracists.

There is no seismic evidence of conventional implosions at the WTC. Get over it.