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originally posted by: Mandroid7
a reply to: dfnj2015
It's long past time gov gets to eff out of the market, they have been subverted from their initial purpose of protecting prosperity for citizens into taking all prosperity for control and gibs.
They sold us out.
From factories to income tax, to property tax and regulation(tax), to excess laws and employment disqualification through records
While dipshlitz cry muh party.
Slaughtering small business, now taxing the materials suppliers through tarriffs.
Our country is fd on this path.
originally posted by: DigginFoTroof
Just heard a PBS report on the people of Anaheim who basically live in poverty while being employed full time by Disney (at Disney Land & other locations) as well as working second jobs. A 30 year employee living in poverty seems impossible to comprehend when they are working for one of the most profitable and "stable" companies in the US - so there has to be another reason for the lower wages as well as high housing prices.
What I see as the problem is largely illegal and even "legal" immigrants ("legal" meaning they got citizenship via anchor babies, chain migration/immigration, and other methods of exploiting the US's family friendly and compassionate laws).
A conservative estimate puts the illegal alien population in 2014 at around 3.1 million! That is 1 in 10 or 10%! Now add in all the "legal" immigrants at roughly
www.migrationpolicy.org...
www.ppic.org...
Foreign born Cali residents
www.ppic.org...
www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org...
This shows that over 27% are foreign born - the number is 10-11 million people (which is more than 27% but I didn't come up with the numbers - they are from first link under foreign Born Cali Residents)
-Second link says the # is 34+%
So why are wages low? Why is housing so much more expensive?
-How much of a drain are the 3.1 million illegals on state resources?
-What would happen to real estate if 10% of population wasn't there - the people who take up affordable housing, gov subsidized housing, social housing projects, etc?
-How do these 3.1million illegals effect the school systems? Are they helping pay for the MASSIVE debt we incur because of them? How? What property taxes are they paying? What state income tax are they paying?
-How are labor rates/wages effected by 3.1 million low skilled workers? Are wages higher because of them?
-How are the other 7-8 million "legal" immigrants effecting low skilled wage rates? How are they effecting enrollment into secondary education? Is secondary education less expensive because they are there? Is it less competitive?
Many of these people are a drain on society and directly effect every single person in that state in either lower wages, higher rent, lower quality education, higher health care costs, etc. The probem is that Cali wants to spread their diseased model, a cancer, to other states and it is doing so by running people out of their state because they can't afford to live there any more, can't take the draconian laws, the totalitarian authority of the local and state governments. Gone are the days when Cali was the "wild west" and people could do as they pleased for the most part, when it was a place where a person could remake themselves and build their dream. Now it seems it is either "adapt and accept OUR form of a socialistic/communistic/totalitarian dream or we will crush you" or try to live under the radar (good luck...) or leave.
I would wish for "the big one" and have Cali slide off under the Pacific and maybe we could all wake up from this never ending nightmare, but unfortunately(or fortunately, depends how you look at it), there are VERY good people there, people fighting for freedom and what is right. If only the Gov could be hit by the big one.
originally posted by: dfnj2015
originally posted by: DigginFoTroof
originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: infolurker
It's funny how on the low end fancy techniques like "median" and "percentages" are use in the benefits. But when it comes to CEO tax rates all of sudden everyone in power becomes math illiterate.
Could you explain what you mean? I kind of understand what you are saying, but not exactly sure. An example would be great! I think I agree with what you are saying, people dont' analyze CEO pay/spending but will pick over the poor's with a fine tooth comb?
We are spending $770 billion on the US military this year. What difference does anything else make.
originally posted by: SocratesJohnson
if someone working for Disney is living in poverty, how in bloody hell are illegals surviving? are the Americans stupidly spending their money?