Are we just gonna let Russia bully Crimea? Isn't that how wars start?

Whats the point for Americans to have bases in every corner of the world, if they dont do a damn thing when Russia starts attacking boats? Cowards!

Just let them have their way I guess. Your weak sanctions are clearly not enough. Sorry to all those who have to die because America is to scared to help.

a reply to: JourneymanWelder




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a reply to: JourneymanWelder

The president already said he doesn't like what Russia is doing. That's not enough?

a reply to: JourneymanWelder

Actually it was Ukraine not Crimea.

And it was likely orchestrated by the corrupt Ukrainian president to declare martial law so he could suspend their upcoming elections.

But sure, blame America for not starting WWIII over a couple of boats.

originally posted by: JourneymanWelder
Whats the point for Americans to have bases in every corner of the world, if they dont do a damn thing when Russia starts attacking boats? Cowards!

Just let them have their way I guess. Your weak sanctions are clearly not enough. Sorry to all those who have to die because America is to scared to help.

The title is supposed to say the Ukraine, not Crimea.

originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: JourneymanWelder

Actually it was Ukraine not Crimea.

And it was likely orchestrated by the corrupt Ukrainian president to declare martial law so he could suspend their upcoming elections.

But sure, blame America for not starting WWIII over a couple of boats.

Darn, while I was writing the Ukraine/Crimea thing, you posted it. One minute, just one minute.

If America sticks its troops in anyone elses business, we're "world police" and should go home.
If America doesn't stick its troops in someone elses business, we're "cowards" and should help.

Personally, I say we leave the rest of the world alone for a few years and sort out our own deeply broken country.

So what are you suggesting? War with Russia?

Yeah that will turn out well,

Learn a little Crimean history before you post. You might look a little less uninformed if you did that.

www.crimeahistory.org...

513 BC – The unsuccessful campaign of Persian king Darius I against the Scythians destroyed freshwater sources and destroyed the land by burning trees and grass. They did not carry a single battle but did great damage to the ecology of the Crimean Peninsula.

1768-1774 – Russian-Turkish war, which resulted in the Crimean Khanate proclaimed independent of Turkey, Kerch became a Russian city. 1783 – Crimea was absorbed by Russia and recognized the rights of the Russian nobility for all the noble families of the Khanate. Russia built the cities of Sevastopol as the center of the Russian Black Sea Fleet and Simferopol (1784) as the center of the Tauride province. 1787 – Journey to the Crimea Russian Empress Catherine II and Emperor Joseph of Austria-Hungary I – the most expensive tour of all time.

1954 – General Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, Nikita Khrushchev, transferred Crimea from the jurisdiction of the Russian Federation under the jurisdiction of the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic and becomes an area within Ukraine. The economy was gradually restored.

2014 – The Ukrainian government of Viktor Yanukovich fell under a population revolt in Kiev. The Parliament of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea voted to secede from Ukraine and for its annexation to the Russian Federation.

Crimea has been fought over since the beginning of time.

You want a war with Russia that may end life on earth? You go fight it. I'll pay your air fare.

a reply to: lordcomac

Who said anything about troops?

a reply to: notsure1

No gray in ATS world unless its an alien. What about sanctions?

a reply to: JourneymanWelder

What does it matter to me and mine if Ukraine becomes part of Russia or not. We should be working with Russia and China, not trying to start WW III.

a reply to: JourneymanWelder

Actually, it would seem that many, if not most, wars in the modern era happen BECAUSE we meddle in other sovereign countries' affairs, not in spite of it.

a reply to: Sillyolme

I suppose he should establish a really firm red line ? And OP, what branch of service do you belong ? Perhaps the Coward Brigade ?

a reply to: JourneymanWelder

We don't do anything when our own ships are attacked. Why should we do anything over another country attacking another country?

a reply to: JourneymanWelder

We don't want to be the world police!

They can figure this out on their own.

a reply to: Sillyolme

No gray in ATS world unless its an alien.

lol

The US can't be the only country speaking up before something is done. The UN is for such things, no? Allies? No one is saying squat, but we're supposed to go up another superpower like Russia all by ourselves?

You know that kind of war will use Nukes, right? If you get the rest of the world to stand up, then perhaps Russia will back down.


So what do you want? War or not war? Hey, I get it... It pisses me off too but it's not like we can just go to war with a major superpower. We all have to live in this world. We don't exactly fight with swords anymore.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: JourneymanWelder

The president already said he doesn't like what Russia is doing. That's not enough?

Who here is willing to shed the blood of our Armed forces for this? Mind you that would be open hostilities with Russia, which no one knows where that would lead. What vast economic or Military interest is served by full-on conflict with Russia?

Maybe Macron's European Army can do it instead of the US. They surely have more direct interests do they not?
Are Germanys subs finally operational again?