Russia Ukraine Conflict thread. Russian navy opens fire on Ukrainian vessels. US to Respond......

If you play ball with the West you get paid well…

Ever since Putin went into Syria it all started. Before that it was Clinton and Obama’s surrounding Russia with new NATO sign-ups…

Russia and Putin aren’t saintly but compared to the deeds of the West they are.


NATO, led by the US, has destroyed many countries not even in their hemisphere and Russia has dealt only with countries near them for self-defense.

a reply to: TheJesuit

replied to that in the thread you sent me.

a reply to: Xcathdra

permanent vacation!

a reply to: Willtell

it goes back to the ones you cannot see.
the families.
background context.beforethecollapse.com...
time is tight.

a reply to: username74

Ukraine cites massive buildup of Russian forces along border

KIEV, Ukraine — Russia is building up its land forces and weapons along the border, Ukraine's president said Saturday as German Chancellor Angela Merkel warned Russia not to block Ukrainian ports in the Sea of Azov.

a reply to: Xcathdra

well thats a 2500km border.
that there are russians in russia shouldnt suprise you even though it seems to shock nato.
so heres some background info.
maps.
www.google.gr...@45.9787181,35.2452049,6z
mapcarta.com...
geo-historical
www.historytoday.com...
www.voltairenet.org...
recent history
en.wikipedia.org...
www.rt.com...
you should be able to build your own sit'rep' with the historical and geopolitical info linked.
you would probably need to assemble some source and contextual material on u.s. and nato history.
and you need to look at the financial drivers for all concerned parties.

a reply to: username74

oh, cant find the report right now but it would seem there was mossad involvement in the euromaidan violence.
not that it should suprise us given the last 70 years.

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: ufoorbhunter

No just pointing out the hypocrisy by some on the topic.

Oh right got it now

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

.....and the situation rapidly deteriorates as events gather momentum.(copy and paste)

[url=http://]https://phibetaiota.net/2018/11/robert-steele-while-moscow-talks-about-treaties-the-deep-state-is-starting-world-war-iii-now-this-month/[ /url]

and in related news from the other planned theatre of engagement

phibetaiota.net... ian-attack-on-us-naval-vessel/

a reply to: username74
Thanks for the links. yes it does seem like it is heating up at the moment. All the west has to do is let Russia get sway of Ukraine and NOT put any military into that theatre. Total madness pushing against Russia like this in its own back yard, one day we may all suffer because of this and what for? Nothing at all and definitely non of our business. That area is non of our business absolutely non of our business getting involved with internal FSU squabbles between Slavs.

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
Total madness pushing against Russia like this in its own back yard,

Ukraine is also the backyard of western Europe.

a reply to: paraphi

As was Poland, as was Baltics, as was Montenegro, as was................................... We can't go on expanding into the FSU without some serious biteback, there is no way Russia can let this go on forever or where will Europe's back yard end, like Moscow?

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

I agree, at one moment Russia will fire back, regardless of whether we like Russia or not. It is the cold mind logic.

The EU is supporting and paying for the election campaign of Zelensky via Kolomoisky and of Poroshenko at the same time ... that does not mean though that Ukraine is going to join the EU or NATO.

That simply means that Ukraine will sit longer in the current situation until all oligarchs kill each other or move to the EU .... then it will re-join Russia and the Eurasian Union !

Any attempt at deploying NATO personnel will result in the same nuking of them and their equipment.

P.S. not working out very well for "Guido" i see !