UFO and time travel (backward)?

Do any of you believe that an alien civilization, if advanced enough, could travel backward in time or at the very least communicate backward in time?

a reply to: JayJay77

What if they aren't "alien"?

Highly advanced and evolved humans from a distant future, trying to change the past to create a better alternative future?

a reply to: JayJay77

Anecdotal fringe evidence seems to suggest that things like time slips can happen.

I myself have had at least one predictive dream which suggests that nothing we take for granted about the order of reality is as it seems.
We may be a long, long way off from understanding the whys and hows but it's not outside the realm of possibility that an advanced enough civilization may have cracked the answer in a measurable, repeatable and understandable fashion.

And then the implications become mind boggling.
"What do we want? Time travel! When do we want it? It's irrelevant!"

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What if they weren't human?

Highly advanced and evolved forms of Penis Snakes (yes its a real snake) that can operate outside the bubble of time.


The Penis Snake.

Yep, I think they can in theory, though I haven't seen it done to know for sure.

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Husband:Where do you want to go for our vacation, honey?

Wife: Let's go watch one of those primitive nuclear civilizations destroy themselves.

Husband: There was one in the SOL system..Human species. They snuffed themselves out.

Wife: Let's go see!

originally posted by: JayJay77
Do any of you believe that an alien civilization, if advanced enough, could travel backward in time or at the very least communicate backward in time?

Spirits do it all the time. Done it a time or two myself.

Why not aliens?

If you are talking purely via technology that is a whole different bag of beans.

Seem to recall there is some time travel mixed up in the Redelshem Forrest incident. Something about the ship coming from 40,000 years in the future. That came from the military dude that touched the ship... got all sorts of binary data downloaded to his brain.

a reply to: bwillie

Easy on the craZy

a reply to: JayJay77
Absolutely possible. I'd say inevitable, too.

Closed timelike curve From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a reply to: chr0naut

How so?

originally posted by: JayJay77
a reply to: chr0naut

How so?

There are mathematical solutions within relativistic physics that say it is possible.

Retroactivity causes a temporal cascade effect, a feedback loop if you will, of travel into the past causing a new instance of travel to the past etc. Someone minutely changes the past (from their mere presence) which changes the future which diverges from the original future which means that the person traveling to the past is different from the one that has previously traveled to the past which from the mere presence of both of them causes a different future causing the person who travels to the past to be a different instance and so on...

Few time travelers ever stop and think before barging back into things.



It's as bad as with higher dimensional translations. I had a colleague who turned by 90 degrees an a higher alternate dimension and when they came out, they were entirely inside out. It was a real mess!

a reply to: JayJay77

Not just time travel but alternate realities as well.

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: JayJay77

Not just time travel but alternate realities as well.

Travelling backwards or forwards in time would be entering an alternate reality since the presence - or lack thereof - of the person traveling create it.

So it's really the same thing. Well unless you subscribe to a closed loop system in which case there are no alternate realities, everything that happen is supposed to happen.

I think that viewing history may be possible.

Physically going there is a different matter.

Be careful what you wish for.

A history viewer would end the very nature of privacy, history is only one second or less ago.

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a reply to: dfnj2015

There is the block universe theory also.

originally posted by: JayJay77
Do any of you believe that an alien civilization, if advanced enough, could travel backward in time or at the very least communicate backward in time?

I believe the human civilization could if advanced enough.

My thoughts are along the lines of “Universe Jumpers” slipping in and out and skirting the multiverse. Somehow these beings or sentients figured out how to, just like a dog figures out how to dig out of his cage, it’s inevitable.

Maybe they are from a universe where time works differently.

They could have all left to come into this universe for whatever reasons at the same time, but from our perspective they show up at different times in our history. That would at least solve the argument of why they would need to do the same experiments for so long and so many times. How would they get here? I haven't the foggiest. Just sort of spit-balling.

When you are abducted you move ahead in time on this timeline...when you are in the Craft you experience no time....the function of the Craft changes your timeline experience.

a reply to: chr0naut

There are mathematical solutions within relativistic physics that say it is possible.

Mathematical is indeed the key word here. The fact that RT allows for such nonphysical solutions is a sign that it is not a fully correct/complete description of gravity imho. It would also explain why it is so hard to unify with the standard model.