An Important Report Got Buried Under Black Friday Sales

Yes, The United States of America is a consumer society. The day after we give thanks and feast in gratitude, we charge out and buy STUFF -
Black Friday is the day we wallow around in a stupor of over indulgence.
On the one hand, I find it mighty suspicious that such an important report was rushed to release on this day....on the other hand, how appropriate. And sad.
Can we please put our politics aside and just get real? Humans have polluted the planet, everything about our home has been affected - the air, water, soil, and seasons. Yes, the planet has gone through massive geologic & climatic changes --- but we humans have really messed things up.

From The Atlantic:

A Grave Climate Warning, Buried on Black Friday
by Robinson Meyer
"On Friday, the busiest shopping day of the year, the federal government published a massive and dire new report on climate change. The report warns, repeatedly and directly, that climate change could soon imperil the American way of life, transforming every region of the country, imposing frustrating costs on the economy, and harming the health of virtually every citizen.
Most significantly, the National Climate Assessment—which is endorsed by NASA, NOAA, the Department of Defense, and 10 other federal scientific agencies—contradicts nearly every position taken on the issue by President Donald Trump. Where the president has insisted that fighting global warming will harm the economy, the report responds: Climate change, if left unchecked, could eventually cost the economy hundreds of billions of dollars per year, and kill thousands of Americans to boot. Where the president has said the climate will “probably” “change back,” the report replies: Many consequences of climate change will last for millennia, and some (such as the extinction of plant and animal species) will be permanent."

www.msn.com...

Yes, the climate will change. It always does an always has. The real question is what, if anything, we can actually do about it.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm busy preparing for a very incharacteristic November blizzard.

a reply to: SeaYote

Most significantly, the National Climate Assessment—which is endorsed by NASA, NOAA, the Department of Defense, and 10 other federal scientific agencies—contradicts nearly every position taken on the issue by President Donald Trump.

Can you be more specific?

Climate change, if left unchecked, could eventually cost the economy hundreds of billions of dollars per year, and kill thousands of Americans to boot.

Can you be more specific?

Many consequences of climate change will last for millennia, and some (such as the extinction of plant and animal species) will be permanent."

Exitinctions have been going on for 100's of millions of years, can you be more specific about it? Sometimes we find out that animals we thought were extinct are not really extinct.

Man made climate change is a fallacy. We are so self important and arrogant, that we believe we can change planetary climate. I don't think so.

Chicken Little has a better predictive record than modern science... wasn't Miami supposed to be submerged by now?

The climate always changes. But what has to change by us humans is how we treat the air, water and soil. That will determine if we will survive in a healthy enviornment that allows us to breath, drink and grow what is necessary to keep us "all" alive.

A dead sperm whale that washed ashore in eastern Indonesia had nearly 6 kilograms (about 13 pounds) of plastic waste in its stomach, park officials say. Time




JAKARTA, Indonesia – A dead whale that washed ashore in eastern Indonesia had a large lump of plastic waste in its stomach, including drinking cups and flip-flops, a park official said Tuesday, causing concern among environmentalists and government officials in one of the world’s largest plastic polluting countries.

Rescuers from Wakatobi National Park found the rotting carcass of the 9.5-meter (31-foot) sperm whale late Monday near the park in Southeast Sulawesi province after receiving a report from environmentalists that villagers had surrounded the dead whale and were beginning to butcher the rotting carcass, park chief Heri Santoso said.

Santoso said researchers from wildlife conservation group WWF and the park’s conservation academy found about 5.9 kilograms (13 pounds) of plastic waste in the animal’s stomach containing 115 plastic cups, four plastic bottles, 25 plastic bags, 2 flip-flops, a nylon sack and more than 1,000 other assorted pieces of plastic.



“Although we have not been able to deduce the cause of death, the facts that we see are truly awful,” said Dwi Suprapti, a marine species conservation coordinator at WWF Indonesia.

She said it was not possible to determine if the plastic had caused the whale’s death because of the animal’s advanced state of decay.

Indonesia, an archipelago of 260 million people, is the world’s second-largest plastic polluter after China, according to a study published in the journal Science in January. It produces 3.2 million tons of mismanaged plastic waste a year, of which 1.29 million tons ends up in the ocean, the study said.

Luhut Binsar Pandjaitan, Indonesia’s coordinating minister of maritime affairs, said the whale’s discovery should raise public awareness about the need to reduce plastic use, and had spurred the government to take tougher measures to protect the ocean.

“I’m so sad to hear this,” said Pandjaitan, who recently has campaigned for less use of plastic. “It is possible that many other marine animals are also contaminated with plastic waste and this is very dangerous for our lives.”

He said the government is making efforts to reduce the use of plastic, including urging shops not to provide plastic bags for customers and teaching about the problem in schools nationwide to meet a government target of reducing plastic use by 70 percent by 2025.

“This big ambition can be achieved if people learn to understand that plastic waste is a common enemy,

a reply to: SeaYote

Let's be honest.

What do they want to do about it besides implementing a financial scam that we the people pay insane amounts of money for fuel while the financial traders laugh their way to the bank.

www.forbes.com...

Here's a direct link to the report NCA Report

So here's my stance on this;
IF the NCA would acknowledge that we are still in an Ice Age Period, then maybe I would take what they say a little more seriously. We are in a small warming period, and that is all. When this current period ends, it won't matter too much what we do, it's back to colder then we can believe temps and long long winters.

Back to the report though, it looks to be mostly about recommended economic solutions rather than "Things we can do". It is because even if we did everything that the "environmental" moment wanted us to do, one volcano would essentially undo all of it and these NCA people know this? The chapter on indigenous peoples is clue enough about what this report is really about it when they state:

Many Indigenous peoples still experience historical trauma associated with colonization, removal from their homelands, and loss of their traditional ways of life, and this has been identified as a contributor to contemporary physical and mental health impacts

Really? So a report about the climate needs to push an issue that something that happened a hundred years ago, is causing people to experience PTSD today? Oh what about this gem:

Though local trends may differ across the country, in general, Indigenous peoples have disproportionately higher rates of asthma,90 cardiovascular disease,91 ,92 ,93 ,94 Alzheimer’s disease or dementia,95 ,96 diabetes,97 and obesity.93 These health disparities have direct linkages to increased vulnerability to climate change impacts, including changes in the pollen season and allergenicity, air quality, and extreme weather events (Ch. 14: Human Health).98 For example, diabetes prevalence within federally recognized tribes is about twice that of the general U.S. population.97 People with diabetes are more sensitive to extreme heat and air pollution, and physical health impacts can also influence mental health.98

We'll just ignore diet and physical activity levels though.

It's not the only chapter where these new age ideas pop up either, here’s one from the chapter on Built Environment, Urban Systems, and Cities:

Urban social inequality is evident in disparities in per capita income, exposure to violence and environmental hazards, and access to food, services, transportation, outdoor space, and walkable neighborhoods.

I think this report puts it best when in chapter 17 it states:

A key factor in assessing risk in this context is that it is hard to quantify all the ways in which climate-related stressors might lead to severe or widespread consequences for natural, built, and social systems. A multisector perspective can help identify critical risks ahead of time, but uncertainties will always remain regarding exactly how consequences will materialize in the future. In some cases, interactions are well known. For example, yearly fluctuations in river flows affect hydropower generation, in turn shaping energy costs and profits and reliance on other energy sources (see Box 17.3). Yet even in these cases, it is often difficult to quantify all relevant processes and interactions. Sometimes, interactions are only obvious in retrospect, such as those associated with many past hurricanes (see Box 17.1) or the Northeast blackout (see Box 17.5), with impacts cascading through different parts of the built environment and affecting human health, well-being, and livelihoods. In still other cases, all the relevant interactions are simply not fully understood, for example in the context of the linkages between wildfires, pine bark beetles, and forest management

So there you go. In a nut shell even the people writing this report are stating that this is just a guesstimate of what could happen. So it's a nice heads up, but as I said in my intro to this post,

We are in a small warming period, and that is all. When this current period ends, it won't matter too much what we do, it's back to colder then we can believe temps and long long winters.

Perhaps to highlight the reasons we should all just yawn at this report, why not do as I did and have a gander at the first, second and third reports to see if anything they said actually happened.

In fact, it is difficult to get to the meat of these reports since they have a lovely way of presenting dot points masquerading as truth.

Many of the graphs and tables contain the same rhetoric and false data that has been continually debunked over the previous two decades.

But ... it is all glossy ... and designed to hide the real data from the average person.

Climate change is a fact, it always has changed and it always will.

No amount of taxes and carbon credits will ever change that.

We must adapt to our world and when the ice returns ... as it will ... sooner than many acknowledge, we should be prepared. That is, we need to be prepared for ice ... not blistering sunshine.

Another bogus report ... brought to you by and paid for ... by the Deep State.

This is a thinly disguised attack on the President Trump. Will they never learn.

P

originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: SeaYote

Let's be honest.

What do they want to do about it besides implementing a financial scam that we the people pay insane amounts of money for fuel while the financial traders laugh their way to the bank.

www.forbes.com...

Here in Washington State we have a governor hat wants to shut down a clean coal power plant (because coal anything is bad), prevent wind farms from popping up (you know because of birds dying), not institute next generation nuclear energy plants (because you know nuclear anything is bad), and push a tax on solar energy being produced by home owners (because of free markets) He also wants to push a carbon tax for regular people in the state that puts money into a committee that has no mandate, no oversite, and no mission statement (so his pocket basically)

It's becoming very clear that Climate Change ideas in this generations Nigerian Prince.

a reply to: SeaYote

Bottom Line, they want to implement a Carbon Credit Scam. That is the goal.... BTW, US emissions are DOWN while Europe emissions with all their carbon scam credits are UP.

Carbon Dioxide: U.S. Emissions Down, European Emissions Up
Despite the E.U.'s carbon markets and vast renewable energy subsidies

reason.com...

While most major economies saw a rise, some others experienced declines, including the United States, United Kingdom, Mexico and Japan. The biggest decline came from the United States, mainly because of higher deployment of renewables.

The U.S.'s performance contrasts with that of the European Union, whose carbon dioxide emissions increased by 1.8 percent last year. This, even though many E.U. countries participate in a carbon market and are engaged in vast efforts aimed at replacing fossil fuels with wind and solar power.

www.greentechmedia.com...

Molly Walsh, renewables campaigner at Friends of the Earth Europe, said the figures showed that the EU Emissions Trading System (ETS), the first and currently biggest greenhouse gas emissions trading scheme in the world, was not doing its job.

European Union carbon emissions grew 1.8 percent in 2017 despite a 25 percent increase in wind power and 6 percent growth in solar, figures show. The European statistics body Eurostat this month reported that carbon dioxide emissions rose last year in a majority of EU member states.

In total, 20 EU member states saw emissions rise in 2017, while only seven managed to cut their carbon dioxide output. Eurostat said the Swedish data was still under revision, so it was not included.

So, the US is actually Lowering Carbon output while Europe and all their financial scams are increasing..... But hey, a bunch of the right people are getting rich while their common people pay through the nose to finance this Carbon Credit Scam.

a reply to: SeaYote
I had my mom come over and check my closets for climate change before i could sleep. Not tonight climate change...... not tonight.

originally posted by: ketsuko
Yes, the climate will change. It always does an always has. The real question is what, if anything, we can actually do about it.

What can we do about the climate? Not much, if anything.

It wouldn't kill us to not be such pollute-y pigs, however. A dog might eat his own turd, but even he won't drop a deuce right in his food bowl. Humans, on the other hand, are perfectly fine dropping many a pollution deuce where we eat. We're pretty disgusting in this regard.

a reply to: SeaYote


This Picture is 20 Years Old ...............Burrrr !

a reply to: Zanti Misfit

A Gore. You know what? He hasn't really been much of anything for a long time.

Do you have a live horse handy?

a reply to: Woodcarver

Speaking of Black Friday , it is a More Serious Threat to Our Country than Global Warming ! No , Really !

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Zanti Misfit

A Gore. You know what? He hasn't really been much of anything for a long time.

Do you have a live horse handy?

No , just some Dead Broke Zombies I'm Afraid ............)

a reply to: Zanti Misfit

Yeah.
Not much thought required in that case.

Keep up the good work.

Funny how this makes no mention of the fact that the United States leads the whole wide world in reduction of carbon emissions despite not playing along with these "scientists'" silly scheme.

Could it be because the U.S. managed to do so through progress, growth and innovation? No, that can't be it. These people are scientists. Everything they say is golden. We have no choice but to take their every word as gospel. My brain is not my own. I think what you think. I like to eat paint chips and pay hookers to let me scream into their buttholes.

a reply to: sooth

Hey now, leave hookers butt holes out of this. They ain't hurting no one.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Zanti Misfit

A Gore. You know what? He hasn't really been much of anything for a long time.

Do you have a live horse handy?

But Al Gore is the leader of the pack and has undeniable form ... he always got it wrong!

To understand the debate, one has to acknowledge the past failures by the whole damn movement.

But no, deflect when you have to.

P