55 yrs after JFK death still an unsolved Mystery

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55 years ago America had one of the saddest and by far the most traumatic Thanks giving celebration, that it was Not really that, without the presence of who was destinated to be the head of that act.

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55 yrs later JfK Assassination still brings pilgrims to his grave

Today so many decades later we still have the bitter flavor of a unfinished process of national healing of the nightmare of what happened that Friday 22nd of November in Dallas, that perhaps is better to say of what started that day, since the bad dream lasted until the terrible final outcome of Vietnam war and the Watergate Scandal more than ten years later.

According with the route plan designated by the protocols of handling along time the archives of what is confidential in the best national interest we should be right now absolutely knowledgeable of all the government and the federal agencies knew on that assassination.

The reality is that the current administration failed in to perform those protocols according with what the Constitution states and have decided that as a nation we are not quite ready still now to know all the truth.

The Assassination of Attorney General Robert Kennedy in 1968, when he was leading the most popular Presidencial Campaign, as well as the extrange coincidential circumstances of the fatalities of John F Kennedy Jr in 1998, and of his step brother Alexander Onassis in 1973, as well as the two terrible "accidents" suffered by Senator Edward Kennedy in airplane and in car suggest the existence of a continuum between them and JFK violent death.

That continuum is what many researchers along decades have decided to call the worst conspiracy of American History and for the ones that try to debunk it even with the more esoteric name of Kennedy curse.

A good prayer for Thanks Given in 2018 is for justice for so many good people died in horrendous conditions and for the ideals they defended braverly and lived with so much dignity and integrity.

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55 yrs of JFK Assassination

Ironically we live in a time of other Presidency under siege that came over even using the name of JFK as a propaganda tool in their vast arsenal of rhetoric resources to try to expose what they called the establishment rule , nevertheless have preferred to maintain unsolved a situation that deserves full clarification, instead to fulfill a mandatory appointment with History and posterity.

There is who claims that He leads right now a revolution of the people against the status quo, that wants to emancipate Americans of over exploitation, but at the same time decides to bypass a unique opportunity to correct terrible Historic mistakes that buried another social revolution more than half a century ago.

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The Angel of Lightness

a reply to: The angel of light

If you would like a bit of a mind twister, just look up the similarities between Lincoln and JFK.

The book was written a long time ago and forces beyond our understanding wrote it.

Perhaps they like to give us a clue sometimes...

S&F

a reply to: Lumenari

Why we don't talk instead about the strange similarities runnning between JFK and somebody else in his same job , who is also a rich guy, member of a wealthy dinasty, with a well known playboy past, having a thick mane, married also with a young beautiful elegant lady of foreign background too, and as Him interested in the media a lot, and moving a political cause that claims interest in the common people needs?

There is a lot of people that think that JFK unsolved mystery has all to do with the past, I think it is even more intriguing and worrying its possible implications at future.

The Angel of Lightness

originally posted by: The angel of light
a reply to: Lumenari

Why we don't talk instead about the strange similarities runnning between JFK and somebody else in his same job , who is also a rich guy, member of a wealthy dinasty, with a well known playboy past, having a thick mane, married also with a young beautiful lady of foreign ancestry too, and as Him interested in the media a lot, and moving a political cause that claims interest in the common people needs?

There is a lot of people that think that JFK unsolved mystery has all to do with the past, I think it is even more worrying its possible implications at future.

The Angel of Lightness

Because I think you are drawing heavily on inferences that are superficial to make a point.

Now, if Trump decides to buck the banksters then I would see some real similarities.

Until then, you are relying on hair and an ego and a rich family.

Which describes most other Presidents between Lincoln and JFK.

If you wanted to bring up assassinations (or attempted ones, in the case of Reagan and Jackson) then look no further than what they were trying to do for their country to free it from a central bank.

An opinion, as always.

a reply to: Lumenari

Superficial? Really?

Who are performing the role of the great lenders in today's America?

How much is our external debt right now with Chinese bankers?

Pretty much astronomic isn't it? Unpayable in practical terms.

What is happening between this administration and China?

Have you read recently news?

We have months living in a cold trade war precisely with China, same country whose financial sector owns the majority of our treasury bonds.

You have gotten the answer to your question, who says that I was talking about just on something as superficial as hair quality?

Without them we even should not have anymore central bank at all, without their support to mutual funds there is no pension system for our elders too.

The Angel of Lightness

Consider the possibility that the mystery was solved long ago.

JFK was killed by Lee Harvey Oswald.

originally posted by: abe froman
Consider the possibility that the mystery was solved long ago.

JFK was killed by Lee Harvey Oswald.

"Lee Harvey Oswald" was a disposable identity used for a purpose.

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a reply to: abe froman

Sorry but even if I would be Hindu and believe in a sort of reincarnation it is absolutely impossible to be ready too as an only responsible for all what happened later.

Oswald couldn't not have planned and executed the assassination of Senator Robert Kennedy, when he was the strongest bid for the white house 5 years later,
among other incidents to the Kennedy clan as a whole,.

Even if he was one of the shooters in Dallas, using a so low quality rifle to perform the crime of the century, clearly he was unable to follow up all the other casualties that occurred after his death to prevent a second Kennedy term ever.

Of course you always have the choice to Ask for a second opinion to his Holiness the Dalai Lamma or the venerable Thich Nhat Hanh, ask them if they think a boy 5 years old can be the brain also of a conspiracy to kill who had practically assured the strongest Nomination to the white house?

That's a good try and 55 yes ago it worked but not now, clearly we have grown a lot since the times we read fairy tale books, as the Warren commission report was.

The Angel of Lightness

I think the mob did it.

a reply to: The angel of light

Kennedy had negative mental images of himself which caused a bullet to spontaneously appear in his brain (and also injure others on its way out to freedom).

He "creatively visualized" his own demise into existence.

I have it good authority by a highly respected 'New Age'r.

a reply to: chr0naut

Please would you mind to tell that New Age guru to teach you how a person can visualize effectively a new better brain coming soon for him or her?

I believe it is in your best interest to receive that vital information before is late.

This the History forum, not the one of alternative religious paths or bad Jokes by the way.

Nevertheless, I give you the benefit that another came before you, I believe talking in Hindu or Buddhist terms, trying to brainwash us that Oswald is the lonely guilty of the entire so called "Kennedy curse".

The Angel of Lightness

a reply to: The angel of light

Unsolved?very evident that he was killed by the government,the reasoning behind it may be suspect,but the fact that the Secret Service got stand down orders from George Bush Sr,the same familys running the US oil cartel,just follow the money trail,the elite made more money under Johnson

originally posted by: IndyFront
I think the mob did it.

i think the mob and the government did it

originally posted by: TinySickTears

originally posted by: IndyFront
I think the mob did it.

i think the mob and the government did it

Didn't LBJ have mob connections? I recall reading a book that went into how deeply corrupt and evil he was, going all the way back to the Texas senate elections of 1948

EDIT: I think it was the Phillip Nelson book, but I can't recall the title at the moment. But it goes deep into how President Johnson and JFK's mafia connections are what killed him. Found this as well.

a reply to: IndyFront

i was balls deep in it a while back.

i dont recall the particulars but there are a lot of connections

starting with sam giancana, the head of the chicago mob and JFK both banging maryln monroe. that was a problem.

then there is the issue of JFK and his brother the AG at the time striking a deal of sorts with the mob. if the mob got them votes then they would not pursue them.
the mob did and they went after them anyway.

gianacana had close ties to carlos marcello who ran KC. jack ruby was connected to marcello from way back. ruby killed oswald.

there is more and it is of course just a theory but of all the # i read it makes sense to me.

JFK was going after the wrong people in the government and his brother was going after the mob.
the whole maryln thing.

i think they partnered up and worked it out.

a reply to: TinySickTears

You have pretty much correct, except Marcello was the mob boss in NOLA and Ruby answered to him. Giancanna was in thick with Joe Kennedy and was angered by Bobby's Mob busting as AG; he really went after the 5 families........stupid thing to do considering Joe's ties to the Mob. Joe made his millions running bootleg liquor to the Mobs during prohibition and did it through his connects in Ireland. Kind of a Sons of Anarchy kind of thing.

A guy in jail in Texas on other charges, think he eventually died in jail confessed to being one of three shooters present that day. Oswald was there and took shots, but he was there as the fall guy. The other shooters were 1) on the grassy knoll and 2) on the Railroad overpass. Johnson knew the hit was going to happen via the CIA which was determined to take JFK down because of the Bay of Pigs kerfufufl. Johnson even quiped the day before that he wouldn't have the JFK problem much longer.

Any way, that's my opinion on the subject.

It is not unsolved but rather the truth has been buried.a reply to: The angel of light

a reply to: TonyS

I think you are definitively in possesion of key pieces of the puzzle, but I don't think that any presumptive link in between the Kennedy's and mob during the Campaign killed JFK .

I am very doubtful of any support of Mob leaders to the Kennedy- Johnson Ticket considering the well known enmity of RFK with people like Jimmy Hoffa along the years of JFK in the Senate.

Naturally, the best candidate for the mafia interests in 1960 was Richard Nixon. He had by far ties with mobsters as big as to make anything LBJ had look like a joke.

Don't forget that Jack Ruby started his career as bell boy of Al Capone in Chicago in 1930s, but soon after in 194Os he was working for Nixon being one of his assistants during the communists hunting era.

John Rubistein was a key factor to uncover, or manufacture, it depends which side you decide to take, the supposed evidence Richard Nixon used in court to incriminate the Adviser His.

Now , many claim Joseph Kennedy made his foutune during the prohibition trading illegally licours using Mobsters, but I think that is defamation.

The head of the Kennedy clan made his fortune selling Whisky and Brandy for their medicinal properties to pharmacies. Joe Kennedy didn't have any need to go into underground activities, since FDR gave him an exclusive permit to import legally those licours to be used for medicinal purposes.

The real issue between JFK and the mafia began when the operation of invasion over Cuba on bay of pigs failed dramatically in 1961, since the President didn't want involve USA arm forces on it.

The operation was preapproved by Dwight Eisenhower and personally planned by the Vice President Richard Nixon. If he might be elected in 1960 he surely should send American troops to invade Cuba.

The second issue happened in 1962 when JFK made a deal with Nikita Khrushchev to remove the nuclear missiles from Cuba, in exchange for an agreement that under his administration USA never again would try to overthrown Castro from power.

Those two decisions made JFK pretty much an extremely hated person in mafia circles, since people like Sam Giancana, Santos Trafficante and Carlos Marcelo lost over 50000 millions of Dollars expropriated by the Cuban Revolution that they previously owned there in Hotels, Casinos and Night clubs.

In Particular that was devastating for Santos Trafficante who was imprisoned in La Havana by Fidel Castro for years, in a very humiliated nightmare.

Thanks for your attention to the thread,

The Angel of Lightness

OP mentioned the constitution and I think that's the basis of the ongoing 55 years. Key phrases in the Preamble to the Constitution list, in order,

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence,[note 1] promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

insure domestic Tranquility,

The Warren Commission (1963-64) was designed with domestic Tranquility in mind. Any deviation from the official story would invite on America domestic civil unrest, a hot war with Cuba, which means a hot war face to face with the Soviet Union.

Therefore, any conclusion other than LHO acted alone must be wrong in 1964. Later, some 55 years, the alternative narrative research has concluded that the story was very different. The JFK documents to be released are still being held back from the public with heavy redaction. OP asks why?

55 years later the Cubans and the Russians may have documentary evidence, too. Did anyone ever think of that?

Assuming that the US government contradicted itself and released all JFK files, unredacted, which implicated a Cuban, Russian origin to the conspiracy? The results could be devastating...

Assuming the US government totally contradicts itself and released all JFK files, unredacted, which admits to a conspiracy originating and organized from within the government, the results would shatter the world...

All previous presidents since LBJ must know this and the present potus has once again sided with the preamble to the constitution, with attention given to the inclusion of *domestic Tranquility*, holding secret documents from the people, essentially, to protect the people from themselves. And to protect the government from the people... because there would be an extremely violent and prolonged revolution in the form of a 2nd American Civil War.

America would be divided by itself and immediately conquered by it's enemies, foreign and domestic, from within and without, all the doomsday scenarios that the Pentagon has prepared for.

The history books will have to be re-written in any case. The entire weight of 55 years of independent research has fallen on the Warren Commission report. Perhaps there is a Hollywood "happy ending" to this domestic dilemma... one where the facts won't disrupt our *domestic Tranquility*.