Approaching 400 yrs of the Fourth European Thanksgiving in America

The Peace of God to all that belong to the Light,

Dear Readers,

In three years we are going to be celebrating the tetra centenary of the Plymouth thanks Giving day that today identify all Americans.

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historyofmassachusetts.org...

It was Not the first American Thanks giving at all, but that is the one identify the nationality thanks to a decree signed by the first President of the United States, that was not General George Washington, but Mr John Hanson.

Proclamation of Thanks giving Day 1782 Pres. John Hanson

If we refer to the one carried out with European setlers at least three preceded what occurred in Plymouth Colony by 1621, long time before, one in Palo Duro Canyon , also in el Paso, west Texas another in St Augustine, in the south of Florida.

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Palo Duro Canyon Texas first Eurppean Thanks Giving 1541

Third European Thanks Giving at El Paso 1598

2nd European Thanksgiving at St Augustine Florida 1565

Nevertheless, archaeologists have found evidence that a tradition o festivals or celebrations to the collection of the crops were already existing about a millenium ago since the time of Ancient Anasazies and people of Cahokia.

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Millenary Green Corn Rites, First trully American ThanksGiving Ever

Green Corn Festivals PreColumbian Thanksgiving

Thanks for your attention,

Happy Thanks Giving day!

The Angel of Lightness

a reply to: The angel of light

Lol I dunno about those facts, sources would help

a reply to: hombero

Well, I have edited the opening post to provide some key links to check about the claims on it.

What I have found is that there is in the own milenary traditions of the Native Americans a sense of belonging to their environment that did not have any feeling of separation from the Universe.

Native peoples of America thought they were protected and supported by a mother Nature that generously nurtured them, and also a great Spirit that was in particular ruling the entire Universe.

For the original peoples of this continent thanks giving was not just an extraordinary rite to perform annually , that was a special period after the collection of the crops, but they lived permanently with that principle, in a daily base.

Thanks giving in the way we learn from History books, obviously written only from the point of view of the conquerors seems to be exclusively a Christian value, but in essence was an idea that preexisted in both groups.

The Angel of Lightness

Would that make Thanksgiving a pagan holiday?? A month before Christmas 🤪 !!??!

No wonder we had to change it up. Sounds like my understanding of the universe is on the same page as these natives you spoke of . I should study them more .

a reply to: worldstarcountry

Well, if we are going to trust History, also to the principal international Christian institution, and what the NASA experts on spectroscopy determined since decades ago, checking the evidence, was to one of those pagans, as you call them, and Not to any European, that the only officially recognized Marian apparition in North America, at the Tepeyac mountain in Mexico occurred.

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Guadalupe Virgin Apparition in Tepeyac, Mexico

perfect preservation of Guadalupe Tilma challenges Science


Thanks for your observation,

The Angel of Lightness

a reply to: The angel of light

Interesting. So......non-European-Americans are guilty of cultural appropriation if they celebrated Thanksgiving?

a reply to: TonyS

Thanks giving is something more Universal that what it was taught in History books, the Spaniards have had their own when they arrived to the Americas before any British, as well as the Portuguese sailors, but there are also evidences in the East coast of Canada that even the Vikings that came with Leif Erickson were already Christians.

Now, no doubt the Native Americans were already practitioners of their own ceremonies of Thanks giving either in the Central Plains or in the South West.

Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness

a reply to: hombero

The 1960 discovery conclusively proved the pre-Columbian Norse colonization of the Americas. L'Anse aux Meadows may correspond to the camp Straumfjörð mentioned in the Saga of Erik the Red.


A Viking settlement was discovered by Helge and Anne Stine Ingstad at that exact spot, L'Anse aux Meadows in northern Newfoundland, and excavated during the 1960s and 1970s.

It is most likely this was the main settlement of the sagas, a "gateway" for the Norse Greenlanders to the rich lands farther south.

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Lucky Viking who discovered Vinland and settle down in Canada

We are not certain where exactly was located their south most Colony in the continent, but most archaeologists and Historians agree that the so called Vinland was in the east coast of America.

That suggest that the Plymouth Thanks Giving of 1620 could be not even the Fourth in USA but the 5th at best and the 6th or 7th in North America.

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Different Sites have been mentioned as possible locations for Vinland, including the coast of Maine, or Boston and New York Bays. There is a common agreement that the Norse Colony couldn't prosper beyond the XI century though.

Nevertheless, when William Penn came into the low Delaware river, he noticed that Indians informed to have interacted with other Europeans longely.

He reported to have found that Swedish were already settled down in South Jersey , Delaware and surroundings of Philadelphia before his expedition.

There is the possibility that Swedish Colony evolved from the original Leif Erikson village, that what it was at the XVII called New Sweden was nothing else than Vinland.

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Christianization of the Vikings before they came to North America

Denmark was Christianized in the 10th century. In the late 10th century, King Olaf Tryggvason gave his vassals the choice of Christianity or death.

Olaf also christianized Shetland, Orkney, and the Faeroes, and he was instrumental in the conversion of Iceland.

According to Erik the Red’s Saga, he commissioned Leif Eriksson to christianize Greenland.

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Thor Heyerdahl found in Vatican Archives eldest records of Vikings in Vinland as Catholic Norwegian missioners in America

Christianity developed in Sweden but the process took longer, and was not completed until the 12th century.

The Angel of Lightness