Is 5G Wireless Dangerous? Hundreds Of Birds Die During 5G Experiment In The Netherlands

a reply to: Dfairlite

Hey!! Who asked you to wade into a thread filled with FUD and bring in experience and actual knowledge??

That's not what ATS is for.... logic? Reason? Bah humbug.

a reply to: shawmanfromny

I suppose the birds can be explained by poisoning but even though a lot of folks on here are debunking the severity of the effects backed up by lab tests, I wonder about long term exposure. The tech has only been growing greatly since the 80's & these are waves that were not in abundance in the environment. Could there be slower and more insidious effects that we won't make any connections to until we're a few more generations out. Dropping fertility rates, autism (up exponentially since the 80's, high rates of cancer, etc? I am rather skeptical that even if any implications were actually brought up that they would halt the tech and forgo the huge amount of revenue and convenience. As long as we can watch the latest streaming movies we're good.

Snopes says no. But I know people have mixed feelings about that site.

Here's the rather lengthy page they have on it with source links at the bottom of it.

Did a 5G Cellular Network Test Cause Hundreds of Birds to Die?

On 5 November 2018, Erin Elizabeth’s medical conspiracy blog Health Nut News “reported” a seemingly disturbing story out of the Netherlands with the headline “Hundreds of birds dead during 5G experiment in The Hague, The Netherlands.” It turned out that Elizabeth’s article was the wholesale regurgitation of a series of Facebook posts authored by a man named John Khules who runs several anti-5G conspiracy websites and social media pages.

So who to believe?

a reply to: noonebutme

I know, right!? What was I thinking.

I do wish some of these posts were correct and I could carry around an ADS in my pocket.

a reply to: EveStreet

Fertility rates is one that is concerning. Especially in males. There have been a decent number of studies on it and almost all of them are "inconclusive." That sets off my alarm bells. It's like CYA because they don't want to come out and say it doesn't affect fertility for later down the road when it finally comes to light that it does. But I do think that the vast majority of people designing and testing new tech are good, so if they did know about a problem and they were trying to keep it under wraps (which they would certainly do for monetary reasons), they would likely be trying to eliminate the problem with future iterations of the technology.

a reply to: waftist

I suppose it is inevitable this tech will be rolled out and perhaps the danger is considered minimal compared to benefits.

Perhaps the danger is actually considered to be one of the BENEFITS rather than a risk... Just saying - remember the Georgia Guidestones. This may also play into a 'Children of Men' scenario, when the adult population become so 'irradiated' that neither male or female can manage to remain fertile enough to conceive. This strikes me as a very real possibility for the longer-term populations of built-up areas.

a reply to: Dfairlite

Our knowledge of Physics is far from complete. How do we know for sure that there is not a change at the molecular level which changes the way that things assemble. They look for physical changes, changes that can be easily found, then they do the testing to look for molecular changes. That does not mean a reaction has not happened, if you use that radiation on water, it could temporarily alter it's structure a tad and act differently if something is added to it or a reaction occurs in that time. I doubt if they test things like that, if they did, there would be very little technological advancement till they understood the full effects of things.

They now say that just observing something can alter how it reacts, now that is interesting, and relevant to what we are talking about. The energy frequency people emit can change things, just by looking at it. So there is a million times more we do not know yet than we know already. If someone says something is not possible, they are not correct, maybe saying something is not probable is a better way of saying it.

People say that there have been no changes in much of physics for thirty years, yet I read new discoveries on a daily basis, some saying we should rethink some of what we think we know.

But evidently the majority of people do not read those articles because they keep reinforcing old beliefs like someone has again proved Einsteins theory of relativity. The thing is if you try to prove that theory without thinking if the methods are even relative, you are just looking for reinforcement of what you already believe..

Just ran across this article and it is relevant to the thread I think. It may have some fluff but the 2000 peer reviewed tests are enough to tip my scales towards concern...to some degree, as opposed to nothing to worry about. I am on lunch break so not much time to break article down, just wanted to add it to the mix for consideration.

I live in a small town in Arkansas with about 2000 people. The 5 G tower was built 400 yards from my house and looks like every tv shows doomsday device.

originally posted by: Creep Thumper
a reply to: solve

We don't need your negative waves, Moriarty.

That said, we are working on cleaning up our mess. It's the Third World you should be looking at for the majority of the filth and indifference to the environment.

Tell me, what did you do today, to save the world? Besides the usual, like creating a bag of garbage...

Your life, and mine demands the destruction of the world, no way to be nice about it.

At least Washington, D.C. will be one of the first active sites.

I'm not sure we even need 5G.

I can usually get 3G when I leave the house and 4G if I'm in the city. 4G itself is extremely fast but I can't get it every where.
I'd rather have stable 4G everywhere before I start to see a 5G popping up.

As for the birds, I don't see how it can effect them unless they can literally sense it. Birds and fish function on a much higher frequency than any other creature so is likely to be the first affected by it.
Electromagnetic Radiation is a thing though and shouldn't harm anyone any less than the suns rays.

a reply to: SpaghettiHero

Birds and fish function on a much higher frequency than any other creature so is likely to be the first affected by it.

What exactly does that mean?

a reply to: Phage

Good question. Possibly a reference to their perception.

Birds can travel the world without any of the gizmos that humans depend on, and a new study suggests how: Our feathered friends might "see" Earth's magnetic field.

While other mechanisms are thought to help birds navigate, including magnetically sensitive cells within their beaks, their brain regions responsible for vision are in full gear during magnetic navigation, researchers said.

"If you look into the brain of a bird during magnetic compass orientation, only the visual system is highly active," said study co-author Henrik Mouritsen, a biologist at the University of Oldenburg in Germany, noting that most migratory birds do so at night. "Other regions of the brain are not, so birds could use vision to 'see' Earth's magnetism and orient themselves."

Mouritsen and his colleagues' findings are detailed online in a recent issue of the journal PLoS ONE.

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I helped install 5g around Canary Wharf and several other sites in London.... also 4 sites in the Midlands over a month ago. 5g trial sites.
No one is suffering any ill effects.......... yet.

a reply to: DBCowboy I still have a land line. Hubby has a cell phone. I do not, and do not want one. I very seldom fly anywhere. Since I got out of the Navy. I was aircrew on C=9 fleet logistic support. Got all the travel out of my system, happy to remain earthbound. I know I'm a fossil.

FYI: 5G antenna installers wear anti-radiation suits.

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