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A highly circulated study claiming oceans are warming at a much higher rate due to global warming contains "key errors," forcing researchers to issue a correction.
The study published by the journal Nature on Oct. 31 by researchers at Princeton University and UC San Diego's Scripps Institution of Oceanography claimed the oceans were warming at a rate 60 percent higher than previously thought.
However, a mathematical error discovered by independent climate scientist Nic Lewis after he perused the study's first page has led the journal to retract its key finding. The study has a much larger margin of error, making their findings of a 60 percent increase in ocean warming less precise, and actually between 10 percent and 70 percent.
The lead researcher now says its findings are practically meaningless, with a margin of error "too big now to really weigh in" on ocean temperatures.
"Missing 60 percent of heat for the last 25 years -- that's a big deal," he said. "But scientists are now going to have to do their due diligence and check the math on this and check the methods and make sure it stands up. I mean, it's a peer-reviewed study. It's done by some of the best institutions in the world. However, with all that said, I think we need some more time to absorb this. If that is true, it has major implications for the world."
That's somewhat out of context, missed a couple of important words.
The lead researcher now says its findings are practically meaningless, with a margin of error "too big now to really weigh in" on ocean temperatures.
“Our error margins are too big now to really weigh in on the precise amount of warming that’s going on in the ocean,” Keeling said. “We really muffed the error margins.”
Keeling said they have since redone the calculations, finding the ocean is still likely warmer than the estimate used by the IPCC. However, that increase in heat has a larger range of probability than initially thought — between 10 percent and 70 percent, as other studies have already found.
Isn't a 60% margin of error pretty big in the world of science. Must be the "new science" standards...
The instruments and methods used in the past were not uniform. As I said, they are getting better at it.
If you have a thermometer and can read it, one thing is either warmer or not warmer.
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: diggindirt
Isn't a 60% margin of error pretty big in the world of science. Must be the "new science" standards...
So you get his point. Very good.
They are using an entirely new theory for determined changes in sea temperatures. It may pan out with more work, it may not. That's how it works.
The instruments and methods used in the past were not uniform. As I said, they are getting better at it.
If you have a thermometer and can read it, one thing is either warmer or not warmer.
"Of course, it is also very important that the media outlets that unquestioningly trumpeted the paper's findings now correct the record too," Lewis added. "But perhaps that is too much to hope for."
The world has been warming for the last 12,000 years.
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: pheonix358
It shows that, for the past 10,000 years or so, temperatures were generally falling, up until recently.
Here's a "zoomed in" view of Greenland temperatures.
No, it hasn't been warming for 12,000 years.
You see, mine is what I was taught back in 1975 before all of this Global Warming scary crapola came to be.
In the 70's plate tectonics was a new idea.
For all of those who can't make head and tails, go to a second hand bookstore and find a book from the seventies