My Extraterrestrial Contact Experience

a reply to: PeachesEnRegalia

Your reasoning is faulty- They dart around, silent like a ghost, defying human knowledge of physics, adeptly stealthy & yet intelligent, seemingly flaunting their own mastery over our own apparent limitations of time & space, & you assume that they are nitwits?

Nothing wrong there seeing as you are assuming that "they dart around.........".

Are you really that dense? You are talking about beings who are apparent masters of three dimensional spacetime. Whether or not they are alien in the sense of being "from another planet" is entirely moot, they are very , very alien to us. Do you really write people off so easily? Are you that superior?

beings?


So how superior must one be to claim beings that can defy human physics yet cannot produce anything other interpretive speculation to back their claims?

originally posted by: PeachesEnRegalia

originally posted by: turbonium1
Look at how aliens appear -

As lights, at night, usually.

What makes them aliens? They move far faster than Earth craft move. They speed about to and fro, our craft cannot move like they can....


So we assume they are aliens, because of lights that are moving too fast, darting around, to and fro...And they make NO sound, either! They are not from this planet, for sure!


Nobody even wonders why all of these 'aliens', from far away, have nothing better to do than fly 5 million light years to Earth, only to give us a 5 minute light show, then fly back another 5 million light years, to their 'home planet' !!


The aliens do their light show all the time, year after year, to boot!


Aliens are completely brain-dead nitwits, who don't know what else to do besides a 5 minute light show, again and again, forever after!


Sure, that's it!

Your reasoning is faulty- They dart around, silent like a ghost, defying human knowledge of physics, adeptly stealthy & yet intelligent, seemingly flaunting their own mastery over our own apparent limitations of time & space, & you assume that they are nitwits?



Are you really that dense? You are talking about beings who are apparent masters of three dimensional spacetime.

Sarcasm is a lost art....


When I said aliens must be morons, to do such stupid things, it was mocking anyone who thinks aliens ARE doing such things. Because people really Do believe those lights, are aliens from Planet X, while completely oblivious to how utterly stupid that would be, for aliens to perform a 5 minute light show, then leave. And do the same thing again and again, all over the planet, too. And do it year after year.

So I hope you are not dense, and can understand my basic point....



If you realize it would be stupid for aliens to do that, you must also realize that these 'lights' are not aliens...right?

originally posted by: InhaleExhale
a reply to: PeachesEnRegalia

Your reasoning is faulty- They dart around, silent like a ghost, defying human knowledge of physics, adeptly stealthy & yet intelligent, seemingly flaunting their own mastery over our own apparent limitations of time & space, & you assume that they are nitwits?

Nothing wrong there seeing as you are assuming that "they dart around.........".

Are you really that dense? You are talking about beings who are apparent masters of three dimensional spacetime. Whether or not they are alien in the sense of being "from another planet" is entirely moot, they are very , very alien to us. Do you really write people off so easily? Are you that superior?

beings?


So how superior must one be to claim beings that can defy human physics yet cannot produce anything other interpretive speculation to back their claims?

1) Yes, lets clarify language here. I don't assume anything ,ever. Period. The words "dart around" were Turboniums words, not mine, but yes, they can display that type of movement.

2) Cannot produce anything other than interpretive speculation? This is entirely an assumption on your part, but it does bring up a good subject of study:


I Have seen nothing that shows that proof is in any way allowed. Almost like the ball is in our park & we have to throw it back- To prove to the powers that be, that these "people" exist, know A LOT more than we do, could destroy us socio-politically, but they seem to choose not to, would be very destructive to our societies power structures, when it is so crucial that we learn on our own, otherwise the knowledge will never stick.


Eg- A parent may let their child make their own mistakes so that they learn. And it will not happen if the "parent" (in this example) steps in & saves them. It has to happen in due time.

None of this defies the laws of physics.

A magician's illusion appears to defy the laws of physics, and that's the same for 'alien' illusions, too.


Think about why it's done at night. At a distance. We see lights, in the dark skies above. If you zoom in on the lights, you don't see anything but the lights, as before. Only closer than before.

The trick is getting us to believe they are alien spacecraft, without having any alien-like spacecraft. So they use lights, in the sky, which appear to be spacecraft, defying physics. They never come close enough to be seen, they stay far above us. And then, a few minutes later, they are gone! Amazing, indeed, to see aliens fly around, is it not?


They are illusions, appearing to defy the laws of physics...it is a grand scale illusion, nothing more.

originally posted by: turbonium1
None of this defies the laws of physics.

A magician's illusion appears to defy the laws of physics, and that's the same for 'alien' illusions, too.


Think about why it's done at night. At a distance. We see lights, in the dark skies above. If you zoom in on the lights, you don't see anything but the lights, as before. Only closer than before.

The trick is getting us to believe they are alien spacecraft, without having any alien-like spacecraft. So they use lights, in the sky, which appear to be spacecraft, defying physics. They never come close enough to be seen, they stay far above us. And then, a few minutes later, they are gone! Amazing, indeed, to see aliens fly around, is it not?


They are illusions, appearing to defy the laws of physics...it is a grand scale illusion, nothing more.

Never come close enough to be seen? Not true. Only at night? not true. "Alien-like" spacecraft? In whose ultimate definition? Yours? Becuase they are here & gone proves nothing, only that they appear to as as being here one minute, gone the next. Motive, & technique are not for us to assume, or even to know, if they do not wish it, & I would not blame them.

Putting conditions on what is "alien" ( I don't feel that this word is accurate enough ) makes damn sure that you will not experience anything.


Us zooming in on the lights means nothing- only that they still look like lights when close up, & even this is not always true.

a reply to: PeachesEnRegalia

1) Yes, lets clarify language here. I don't assume anything ,ever. Period.

So you are a delusional joker who doesn't know they are making jokes.

The words "dart around" were Turboniums words, not mine, but yes, they can display that type of movement.

didn't say they are your words but said

You are assuming that what is darting around can be classified as "they".

2) Cannot produce anything other than interpretive speculation? This is entirely an assumption on your part, but it does bring up a good subject of study: I Have seen nothing that shows that proof is in any way allowed.

No, its called UFOlogy and alien visitation and abduction claims.

Never heard of that study or subject of study, did you just make it up?

Almost like the ball is in our park & we have to throw it back- To prove to the powers that be, that these "people" exist, know A LOT more than we do, could destroy us socio-politically, but they seem to choose not to, would be very destructive to our societies power structures, when it is so crucial that we learn on our own, otherwise the knowledge will never stick.

ahhh I see,


the so called PTB (another speculation) know so much that it could destroy our society as we know it so its up to us to throw the ball back.

I'm convinced.

Eg- A parent may let their child make their own mistakes so that they learn. And it will not happen if the "parent" (in this example) steps in & saves them. It has to happen in due time.

Yeah for the basics in life.

a parent wont let their child disarm a bomb and just throw them in will they?

Seeing as the info being kept from us is so destructive.

I once believed the lights were aliens, too. And I never, once, considered how stupid it is, for aliens to fly millions of light years, to Earth, just for a light show, and fly off! Not only a few times, but thousands of times, for years!!


It never occurred to me as being complete bs, or that a being of superior intelligence wouldn't do such a thing...

We don't believe the lights are alien craft because we are stupid, or dumb. We simply don't ask ourselves why any advanced beings would DO such a thing, and leave, over and over again...


After you see the stupidity of it, you understand there's no aliens doing 'light shows'...it's funny looking back, to see that our own, vast, gullibility, wanting to believe so much in aliens, never asking why they ever keep on doing the same bs..over and over again...

originally posted by: PeachesEnRegalia

originally posted by: turbonium1
None of this defies the laws of physics.

A magician's illusion appears to defy the laws of physics, and that's the same for 'alien' illusions, too.


Think about why it's done at night. At a distance. We see lights, in the dark skies above. If you zoom in on the lights, you don't see anything but the lights, as before. Only closer than before.

The trick is getting us to believe they are alien spacecraft, without having any alien-like spacecraft. So they use lights, in the sky, which appear to be spacecraft, defying physics. They never come close enough to be seen, they stay far above us. And then, a few minutes later, they are gone! Amazing, indeed, to see aliens fly around, is it not?


They are illusions, appearing to defy the laws of physics...it is a grand scale illusion, nothing more.

Never come close enough to be seen? Not true. Only at night? not true. "Alien-like" spacecraft? In whose ultimate definition? Yours? Becuase they are here & gone proves nothing, only that they appear to as as being here one minute, gone the next. Motive, & technique are not for us to assume, or even to know, if they do not wish it, & I would not blame them.

Putting conditions on what is "alien" ( I don't feel that this word is accurate enough ) makes damn sure that you will not experience anything.


Us zooming in on the lights means nothing- only that they still look like lights when close up, & even this is not always true.

Flying a million light years away to a planet, for a 5 minute airshow, and leaving, over and over again, for years....hmmm..

Option 1 - it's the alien light show, folks! Wow, they must be from space, and love doing light shows for Earthlings, or sumthin' We's too dumb to figger out what them aliens are up to!!

Option 2 - they are lights, in dark sky, which are meant to appear 'alien'. If we had such craft, why would we keep flying to the same planet, for a 5 minute light show, and leave? Even a moron wouldn't do that. Nobody would. It makes no sense in the least. No purpose. No goal. Nothing.



I choose option 2, you choose option 1.

A half-wit bangs his head on the wall for 5 hours. It looks stupid, to us, but we aren't half-wits, so we don't know the reason for smashing his brains in.... only the half-wit knows...

You go with that logic....have fun.

So you are a delusional joker who doesn't know they are making jokes.

I never assume anything. What i say, always comes from direct experience, & I have a terrible sense of humor. I wish I could make it all up- but there are always more questions than answers.

You are assuming that what is darting around can be classified as "they".

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this is not what you said- you just said "assuming that they dart around....."


You said nothing about 'can be classified as "they" '. Look at your post- just dots there.


& UFOlogy & alien visitation claims are not proof, & proof doesn't matter- it's personal experience- Dismiss all you want, have a good life, it doesn't matter. The freedom to choose one way or another is the most important thing.


The powers that be are not gatekeepers of knowledge. If you don't even think that there are PTB then I really feel sorry for you.


& it's not so much as the information itself as being destructive, more like what we chooseto do with it.

a reply to: PeachesEnRegalia

I never assume anything. What i say, always comes from direct experience

There you go,


what you say comes from assumptions based on your direct experiences.

You said nothing about 'can be classified as "they" '. Look at your post- just dots there.

Well that is why I clarifies as you didn't get what I was saying and thought I was saying you said something Turbo did but I was pointing out your assumption about "they".

& UFOlogy & alien visitation claims are not proof, & proof doesn't matter- it's personal experience-

Yes, that is what I said


claims are personals experiences.

This is not proof what so ever and not even evidence of alien visitation.

The powers that be are not gatekeepers of knowledge. If you don't even think that there are PTB then I really feel sorry for you.

You feel sorry for me because you assume I don't think something is real?

I said you are using speculation to further try and solidify other speculations not that I think there are or are not any powers that be.

Flying a million light years away to a planet, for a 5 minute airshow, and leaving, over and over again, for years....hmmm..

Option 1 - it's the alien light show, folks! Wow, they must be from space, and love doing light shows for Earthlings, or sumthin' We's too dumb to figger out what them aliens are up to!!

Option 2 - they are lights, in dark sky, which are meant to appear 'alien'. If we had such craft, why would we keep flying to the same planet, for a 5 minute light show, and leave? Even a moron wouldn't do that. Nobody would. It makes no sense in the least. No purpose. No goal. Nothing.



I choose option 2, you choose option 1.

A half-wit bangs his head on the wall for 5 hours. It looks stupid, to us, but we aren't half-wits, so we don't know the reason for smashing his brains in.... only the half-wit knows...

You go with that logic....have fun.

& "we's too dumb". Well, yes-us humans collectively are really primitive, unless your scope of vision is as big as a pebble in a shoe, in which case, yes, we know everything.

Who said anything about flying a million light years away to a planet? I have seen nothing which 1)displays this to be fact, or 2) shows that they have to fly linearly through space-time at all- hence the angular movements, the appearing & disappearing the silent hovering, the apparent non-conformity to any type of terrestrial human looking craft
just the lights), unless you are observing the reverse engineered type.



& it's not just a "5 minute light show, & then leave". 1) it's a personal experience - hence the reliably persistent telepathic experiences of contactees. It's us they are interested in, not a light show- that's your dumb idea.


I'm no half wit, & I hardly "bang my head on the wall for 5 hours over it"- you make it sound so awful. That's funny.

originally posted by: InhaleExhale
a reply to: PeachesEnRegalia

I never assume anything. What i say, always comes from direct experience

There you go,


what you say comes from assumptions based on your direct experiences.

You said nothing about 'can be classified as "they" '. Look at your post- just dots there.

Well that is why I clarifies as you didn't get what I was saying and thought I was saying you said something Turbo did but I was pointing out your assumption about "they".

& UFOlogy & alien visitation claims are not proof, & proof doesn't matter- it's personal experience-

Yes, that is what I said


claims are personals experiences.

This is not proof what so ever and not even evidence of alien visitation.

The powers that be are not gatekeepers of knowledge. If you don't even think that there are PTB then I really feel sorry for you.

You feel sorry for me because you assume I don't think something is real?

I said you are using speculation to further try and solidify other speculations not that I think there are or are not any powers that be.

what you say comes from assumptions based on your direct experiences.

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Making assumptions based on direct experiences? You mean, as in scientific inquiry? Yes-that's called human progress... stemming from the individual to collective experience.


Claims are personal experience, not proof? I would absolutely agree to that. But providing "proof" misses the point entirely-seek nothing but proof & you will experience exactly nothing, because you are not invested in it at all, just...."proof". This is fun to discuss though- it does help to cut to the point of the matter.


& Yes there are powers residing over you in society- it's called hierarchy....


I'm done for now. Have a nice night, er….day, or whatever

originally posted by: PeachesEnRegalia

Flying a million light years away to a planet, for a 5 minute airshow, and leaving, over and over again, for years....hmmm..

Option 1 - it's the alien light show, folks! Wow, they must be from space, and love doing light shows for Earthlings, or sumthin' We's too dumb to figger out what them aliens are up to!!

Option 2 - they are lights, in dark sky, which are meant to appear 'alien'. If we had such craft, why would we keep flying to the same planet, for a 5 minute light show, and leave? Even a moron wouldn't do that. Nobody would. It makes no sense in the least. No purpose. No goal. Nothing.



I choose option 2, you choose option 1.

A half-wit bangs his head on the wall for 5 hours. It looks stupid, to us, but we aren't half-wits, so we don't know the reason for smashing his brains in.... only the half-wit knows...

You go with that logic....have fun.

& "we's too dumb". Well, yes-us humans collectively are really primitive, unless your scope of vision is as big as a pebble in a shoe, in which case, yes, we know everything.

Who said anything about flying a million light years away to a planet? I have seen nothing which 1)displays this to be fact, or 2) shows that they have to fly linearly through space-time at all- hence the angular movements, the appearing & disappearing the silent hovering, the apparent non-conformity to any type of terrestrial human looking craft
just the lights), unless you are observing the reverse engineered type.



& it's not just a "5 minute light show, & then leave". 1) it's a personal experience - hence the reliably persistent telepathic experiences of contactees. It's us they are interested in, not a light show- that's your dumb idea.


I'm no half wit, & I hardly "bang my head on the wall for 5 hours over it"- you make it sound so awful. That's funny

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You've never seen aliens, or can't prove you saw aliens, or why you need to prove aliens, since aliens DO exist, but it's a secret. Anyone knows aliens exist, of course.


You may believe these are the actions of an unknown, yet highly superior, alien intelligence, while I suggest when it appears to serve no logical purpose, without a plausible reason, at any level, it's done to APPEAR that way, to us.

We buy it, of course. And the main reason for believing in aliens, is those endless light shows above us, at night-time, which shows us their amazing aerial stunts, performed all over the world, year after year, for decades .....

Why do you believe those lights, above us, at night, are alien spacecraft? They move unlike any craft on Earth. They can fly at speeds far beyond Earth's 'primitive-like' technology of today!! In time, perhaps we'll get there....yadda, yadda..



If aliens wanted to visit Earth, it's stupid to think they waited for thousands of years, then, all of a sudden, figured it was about time to visit Earth, and then, keep going, all the time!!

It's only a coincidence we started to see aliens, after they all showed up in Hollywood sci-fi flicks....of course!