Why the winters are getting colder and longer.

a reply to: Phage

The temperatures, just don't seem to match the data. Theirs good reason to believe that since full Glaciation is a bit late in the overall scheme of things , because we seemed to have missed the bullet in the Maunder minimum, simply because of a cyclical thousand year flare up in solar activity. If core samples are to believed, we seem to be at the cusp of dropping into full Glaciation. If this was general knowledge everybody would be in panic mode surpassing full disclosure.
The conspiracy rumours of the past few years include underground tunnel systems, much going on down in Antarctica. Which would coincide with permanent living in Glaciated conditions but only for a certain number of people, much like the chosen few allowed to go to the fall out shelters if their was ever a nuclear exchange. If such a scenario had a high chance of occurring, then the Government would have already have a contingency plan in place. To keep everybody happy and blissfully unaware , simply because their would be very little they could do except save themselves anyway. www.youtube.com...

a reply to: toysforadults

Yes.

You understand that global warming means that climates will change, right?

Do you think that it means that no place will ever be cold?

a reply to: anonentity

The temperatures, just don't seem to match the data.

Which temperatures? Which data?

If core samples are to believed, we seem to be at the cusp of dropping into full Glaciation.

Have you heard of the Milankovitch cycles? Do you know what they are? Do you think that glaciation events happen very suddenly?

It has nothing to do with any nukes set off in the atmosphere ever ? Volcanic activity and the earth spinning like a drunken sailor

a reply to: Phage


The ice core samples seem to suggest that it happens fast. The isotopes formed by the solar activity, gained therefrom. Seem to match the temperature gains and declines. Since they have half lives of a million years , they match more than one ice age, they also suggest regular full glaciation , and their duration. At present their average suggest that we are overdue.

a reply to: anonentity

The ice core samples seem to suggest that it happens fast.

How fast? Tens of years? Hundreds?

The isotopes formed by the solar activity, gained therefrom. Seem to match the temperature gains and declines.

Not really. No. But the Milankovitch cycles do seem to correlate quite well. And the theory for the mechanism is quite strong, as well as having evidence to support it.
www.news.ucsb.edu...

As far as it happening quickly, not so much. In any case, the talk about the predicted grand solar minimum and its effects are not really related to glacial periods. The "Little Ice Age" was not a glacial period. Whatever caused it.

a reply to: Phage

Whatever caused it.

what do you mean, whatever caused it? as in they don't really know what caused it?

a reply to: toysforadults

You didn't read the paper I linked?
Pretty good indications it was caused mostly by volcanic activity.

a reply to: Phage

but you said whatever caused it... why did you say that as if they don't really know what caused such a massive rapid shift in climate.... you could have said because of the volcano's that caused it but that wouldn't be true would it?

a reply to: toysforadults

That's right. That's why I didn't say it.
But solar activity has a low probability for being the cause. Read the paper. It's quite detailed.


And solar activity has been declining for 60 years while global temperatures have been rising. Quite different from the LIA.

a reply to: Phage

I just wanted to clarify that the climate scientist do not know what rapidly changed the climate and initiated a glacial period or whatever the hell you want to call it

makes sense, they don't understand some of the main drivers behind the climate, major variable got it

a reply to: toysforadults

The "Little Ice Age" was not a glacial period. It was a short lived phenomenon which occurred in the northern hemisphere, primarily in Atlantic regions.

The primary driver of glacial (global) periodicity is thought to be (with strong evidence) the Milankovitch cycles. Predictable combinations of variations in Earth's axial tilt and orbit.

a reply to: Phage

Oh yeah what cause it, give me a for sure answer

originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: Phage

Oh yeah what cause it, give me a for sure answer

I can't. But you could read the paper I linked. I know, it's hard. But give it a try.

originally posted by: Phage

originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: Phage

Oh yeah what cause it, give me a for sure answer

I can't. But you could read the paper I linked. I know, it's hard. But give it a try.

Oh Phage, you spend the time and bring it to everyone else, you know you can. If you can't explain something in simple terms, then you also can't understand it

That's why i'm dumb, i rather not spend the time explaining things LMFAO!

a reply to: BoneSay

I did explain it in simple terms.

What I cannot do is say "for certain" what caused the little ice age.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: BoneSay

I did explain it in simple terms.

What I cannot do is say "for certain" what caused the little ice age.

We have very good ideas about that, right? But no one is going to read, what's the point of linking to something no one will ever attempt to get through?

Give the explanation as you understood, even if it's not 100%

a reply to: BoneSay

I already did so.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: BoneSay

I already did so.

Not in the right way, obviously *rolls eyes*

Apparently then, people are stupid and unable to learn, or you are not able to teach, pick one or the other

California doesn't have winter anymore, doesn't rain, doesn't get "cold" either