A Knock at the Door

a reply to: Raggedyman


"In fact I would say if you are a member of a church that doesn't out these criminals you are harboring them, equally guilty of their crime"



Got that right !, I'd further that in saying being a member of any church and contributing to the pass around collection bowl is guilty beyond redemption.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: Raggedyman

Do you say this to all the Catholic posters?

Does the Catholic Church hand it's evidence over to civil authorities
Has the Catholic Church appeared honest and open and now accountable

Do you believe that the Catholic Church discloses everything?
I would love to tour around the whole of the Vatican.....without a guide so I could explore the complete place.

If they do or don't it's irrelevant, they say they do and have released information.
JW.org won't release any to the civil authorities
Culpable as criminals

I won't justify the Catholic Church and I wouldn't consider justifying my Protestant church, I hold them accountable and wouldn't support a church that hides the truth

JW.org hides the truth

originally posted by: ALSTA
a reply to: Raggedyman


"In fact I would say if you are a member of a church that doesn't out these criminals you are harboring them, equally guilty of their crime"



Got that right !, I'd further that in saying being a member of any church and contributing to the pass around collection bowl is guilty beyond redemption.

Jesus never taught guilty beyond redemption
His love is greater than our evil but there must be repentance and JW.org don't do that

Famous JW knock knock joke:

Two Jehovah's Witnesses knock on someone's door
The house owner opens the door. "Good morning, would you like to learn about God today?" The houseowner was a little bored, and slightly curious, so he lets them in. They slowly enter, and sit down on the couch across from the houseowner. After a few seconds of silence, the houseowner asks, "Well?" The Jehovah's Witnesses look at each other and says to the houseowner, "We don't know what to say, we've never made it this far."

The internet got's million of them.

Knock knock.

originally posted by: aniceday

originally posted by: Nothin

originally posted by: aniceday

originally posted by: Nothin

originally posted by: aniceday
What would it have been like for Christians early in the 20th century trying to spread the truth about God's kingdom?

Christendom would not like you to know. But come along and watch this short movie replicated from the silent era to show how Bible truth about the Resurrection reaches a humble heart....

Knock Knock

Hi AND.

Are you 100% convinced, or do you still ever have any doubts?

How do you 'deal', with folks, whom don't share the same beliefs as you?

(Sorry: but the video was not totally convincing.)

Yes. I have no doubts. The dead will live again.


Soon a Reality

Just Around the Corner

Well ok.

Wish you the best.

Please don't worry too much, about those that will challenge you on your belief system.

If you would like: please write a tad about why you you wish to flout your belief-system here on ATS, while possibly knowing that it might be be ill-received?

It is as much a challenge to accept the views of others, as it is to express our views to others.
(Ooops. Sorry. That's might be too deep.)

Not at all. I have always been outspoken about the Bible. Even in school my teachers and my classmates knew me as someone who loved the Bible.

All people whom God loves he calls by means of his word.

Would you like to read the book from which your bible was taken?...it was written by MEN AND WOMEN not gods nor messengers of gods.

originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: Raggedyman

Do you say this to all the Catholic posters?

Does the Catholic Church hand it's evidence over to civil authorities
Has the Catholic Church appeared honest and open and now accountable

The cult of JW.org hasn't, won't and don't

None have disclosed their true crimes against humanity...not one...tis what it tis.

originally posted by: one4all

originally posted by: aniceday

originally posted by: Nothin

originally posted by: aniceday

originally posted by: Nothin

originally posted by: aniceday
What would it have been like for Christians early in the 20th century trying to spread the truth about God's kingdom?

Christendom would not like you to know. But come along and watch this short movie replicated from the silent era to show how Bible truth about the Resurrection reaches a humble heart....

Knock Knock

Hi AND.

Are you 100% convinced, or do you still ever have any doubts?

How do you 'deal', with folks, whom don't share the same beliefs as you?

(Sorry: but the video was not totally convincing.)

Yes. I have no doubts. The dead will live again.


Soon a Reality

Just Around the Corner

Well ok.

Wish you the best.

Please don't worry too much, about those that will challenge you on your belief system.

If you would like: please write a tad about why you you wish to flout your belief-system here on ATS, while possibly knowing that it might be be ill-received?

It is as much a challenge to accept the views of others, as it is to express our views to others.
(Ooops. Sorry. That's might be too deep.)

Not at all. I have always been outspoken about the Bible. Even in school my teachers and my classmates knew me as someone who loved the Bible.

All people whom God loves he calls by means of his word.

Would you like to read the book from which your bible was taken?...it was written by MEN AND WOMEN not gods nor messengers of gods.

Thats right !, part fact part crap. Chinese whispers.

originally posted by: ALSTA

originally posted by: one4all

originally posted by: aniceday

originally posted by: Nothin

originally posted by: aniceday

originally posted by: Nothin

originally posted by: aniceday
What would it have been like for Christians early in the 20th century trying to spread the truth about God's kingdom?

Christendom would not like you to know. But come along and watch this short movie replicated from the silent era to show how Bible truth about the Resurrection reaches a humble heart....

Knock Knock

Hi AND.

Are you 100% convinced, or do you still ever have any doubts?

How do you 'deal', with folks, whom don't share the same beliefs as you?

(Sorry: but the video was not totally convincing.)

Yes. I have no doubts. The dead will live again.


Soon a Reality

Just Around the Corner

Well ok.

Wish you the best.

Please don't worry too much, about those that will challenge you on your belief system.

If you would like: please write a tad about why you you wish to flout your belief-system here on ATS, while possibly knowing that it might be be ill-received?

It is as much a challenge to accept the views of others, as it is to express our views to others.
(Ooops. Sorry. That's might be too deep.)

Not at all. I have always been outspoken about the Bible. Even in school my teachers and my classmates knew me as someone who loved the Bible.

All people whom God loves he calls by means of his word.

Would you like to read the book from which your bible was taken?...it was written by MEN AND WOMEN not gods nor messengers of gods.

Thats right !, part fact part crap. Chinese whispers.

Now we are discussing a TROJAN HORSE DYNAMIC....this is good....part fact and part crap....so how do we delineate what is truth and what is not truth when we have a book with fact/crap intertwined??

ALSTA....I like your Avatar...reminds me of Daniel of the Lion.

originally posted by: one4all

originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: Raggedyman

Do you say this to all the Catholic posters?

Does the Catholic Church hand it's evidence over to civil authorities
Has the Catholic Church appeared honest and open and now accountable

The cult of JW.org hasn't, won't and don't

None have disclosed their true crimes against humanity...not one...tis what it tis.

Please don't stalk my thread replies,it's a bit creepy

a reply to: aniceday

This is a dead religion. They are closing Kingdom Halls, and bleeding memberships. Even accounting for the average death rate, over 1 million Witnesses left in a 10 year period. www.jwfacts.com...

The JWs try to control information that their members are exposed to. You are discouraged from reading any other literature, and those who dare to question are disfellowshipped to keep them infecting others with their knowledge. People are leaving in huge numbers, because their pedo problems and biblical inaccuracy is exposed on the information highway. JWs are realizing they have been lied to and they are running away.

And here you are, trying to silence Raggedey. He challenges your lies and you try to excommunicate him from the thread, Well, you dont control anything here, if your going to post the BS JW stuff, then you better expect people to challenge it.

originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: one4all

originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: Raggedyman

Do you say this to all the Catholic posters?

Does the Catholic Church hand it's evidence over to civil authorities
Has the Catholic Church appeared honest and open and now accountable

The cult of JW.org hasn't, won't and don't

None have disclosed their true crimes against humanity...not one...tis what it tis.

Please don't stalk my thread replies,it's a bit creepy

LOL...you are going to the same threads as I am....lol...you must....lol...its not creepy...you are seeking knowledge...we all are.

originally posted by: aniceday
What would it have been like for Christians early in the 20th century trying to spread the truth about God's kingdom?

Far easier, people didn't have access to the information they do now.

But regardless of what magical gifts you can offer you are doing yourself a disservice.
There's only a limited number for you guys, you've gotta realise that everyone you save hurts your odds.

If you really believed then you wouldn't threaten your eternal salvation so casually.

originally posted by: one4all

originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: one4all

originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: Raggedyman

Do you say this to all the Catholic posters?

Does the Catholic Church hand it's evidence over to civil authorities
Has the Catholic Church appeared honest and open and now accountable

The cult of JW.org hasn't, won't and don't

None have disclosed their true crimes against humanity...not one...tis what it tis.

Please don't stalk my thread replies,it's a bit creepy

LOL...you are going to the same threads as I am....lol...you must....lol...its not creepy...you are seeking knowledge...we all are.

Stop stalking me creepy person

originally posted by: misskat1
a reply to: aniceday

This is a dead religion. They are closing Kingdom Halls, and bleeding memberships. Even accounting for the average death rate, over 1 million Witnesses left in a 10 year period. www.jwfacts.com...

The JWs try to control information that their members are exposed to. You are discouraged from reading any other literature, and those who dare to question are disfellowshipped to keep them infecting others with their knowledge. People are leaving in huge numbers, because their pedo problems and biblical inaccuracy is exposed on the information highway. JWs are realizing they have been lied to and they are running away.

And here you are, trying to silence Raggedey. He challenges your lies and you try to excommunicate him from the thread, Well, you dont control anything here, if your going to post the BS JW stuff, then you better expect people to challenge it.

How about providing a DESTINATION for all of the JWs and Christians and Muslims and those of ALL FAITHS who are ready to evolve up to another level of collective understanding on a humanitarian level.

The methods JWs and other off-shoots of major doctrinal groups use to control membership were TAUGHT TO THEM by their controllers...they ALL use the same methods.


Religon is in no ways dead...however the season of change is at hand and ALL RELIGONS ARE NOW MORPHING AND LOSING THEIR OLD SKINS.....membership is leaving the old coverings behind in a massive global search for greater truths....no one is giving up...they simply WANT MORE TRUTH because they now KNOW IT IS OUT THERE SOMEWHERE.What they dont realise is that THEY EACH IN FACT HOLD A NUMBER THE THE FINAL COMOBONATION WHICH WILL UNLOCK THE SINGLE TRUTH we all must learn.


There are billions of religous refugees around the world who need a point to catalyse from...and one exists.

a reply to: one4all

I didnt say all religion is dead. The JW religion is a sinking ship. People are leaving in droves, and congragations are down sizing. It is dying.

Unfortunately, religion itself is thriving, and still causing horrid amounts of human suffering.

a reply to: one4all

Mate, go start your own thread instead of babbling in others threads about your religion. Your hijacking someone else's thread for stuff that's not relevant to the thread

a reply to: one4all

It seems that your trying to jump on top of the next generation of religions evolution. What are your motives, to place yourself in a position of control over the people your trying to convince you have some special knowledge about? Or because you would like to see people set free from the bondage of religious rules?

originally posted by: misskat1
a reply to: one4all

I didnt say all religion is dead. The JW religion is a sinking ship. People are leaving in droves, and congragations are down sizing. It is dying.

Unfortunately, religion itself is thriving, and still causing horrid amounts of human suffering.

Understood....however it is clear and obvious that ALL MAJOR AND MINOR DOCTRINES are suffering crippling membership losses for a variety of reasons....you wish to project that this is more of a JW issue when it is in fact an issue facing ALL DOCTRINES BOTH LARGE AND SMALL.......religons do not cause the suffering....membership willingly allows themselves to be taught to ignore the screams and pleading of those in need...the CONTROLLERS of these religons cause the pain and suffering....it is the MASS COMPLIANCE on a morale level that the controllers seek as a recompense from their investments in religons....they just want everyone to look away when they say....they dont need full tangible compliance to do their dirty deeds....lol...but they DO NEED THE MASSES TO BE LOOKING THE WRONG WAYS AT THE RIGHT TIMES TO HELP THEM CONTIINUE THEIR BIG GAME.

originally posted by: Justso
Famous JW knock knock joke:

Two Jehovah's Witnesses knock on someone's door
The house owner opens the door. "Good morning, would you like to learn about God today?" The houseowner was a little bored, and slightly curious, so he lets them in. They slowly enter, and sit down on the couch across from the houseowner. After a few seconds of silence, the houseowner asks, "Well?" The Jehovah's Witnesses look at each other and says to the houseowner, "We don't know what to say, we've never made it this far."

The internet got's million of them.

Knock knock.

With the knocking, and again the knocking.
"Who is being there?"
"Jastopen"
"Jahopen? Vhat are you looking like?"
"Jastopen da door, and ja will then be a Jastopen Witness."

originally posted by: one4all

originally posted by: ALSTA

originally posted by: one4all

originally posted by: aniceday

originally posted by: Nothin

originally posted by: aniceday

originally posted by: Nothin

originally posted by: aniceday
What would it have been like for Christians early in the 20th century trying to spread the truth about God's kingdom?

Christendom would not like you to know. But come along and watch this short movie replicated from the silent era to show how Bible truth about the Resurrection reaches a humble heart....

Knock Knock

Hi AND.

Are you 100% convinced, or do you still ever have any doubts?

How do you 'deal', with folks, whom don't share the same beliefs as you?

(Sorry: but the video was not totally convincing.)

Yes. I have no doubts. The dead will live again.


Soon a Reality

Just Around the Corner

Well ok.

Wish you the best.

Please don't worry too much, about those that will challenge you on your belief system.

If you would like: please write a tad about why you you wish to flout your belief-system here on ATS, while possibly knowing that it might be be ill-received?

It is as much a challenge to accept the views of others, as it is to express our views to others.
(Ooops. Sorry. That's might be too deep.)

Not at all. I have always been outspoken about the Bible. Even in school my teachers and my classmates knew me as someone who loved the Bible.

All people whom God loves he calls by means of his word.

Would you like to read the book from which your bible was taken?...it was written by MEN AND WOMEN not gods nor messengers of gods.

Thats right !, part fact part crap. Chinese whispers.

Now we are discussing a TROJAN HORSE DYNAMIC....this is good....part fact and part crap....so how do we delineate what is truth and what is not truth when we have a book with fact/crap intertwined??

ALSTA....I like your Avatar...reminds me of Daniel of the Lion.

My understanding is follow the soul but carefully initially incase a bad soul is present, if truly Christian in nature as a result of acceptable to god decision making in life then the facts should speak to us if we are truly open/accepted spiritually, - just as the crap should.
We are not sheep, nor are we meant to be by nature, we should not follow others leads, god only wants one thing- to truly be accepted by god we must have a relationship with god and a desire to be pure of heart,
We need to feel and hear our soul and direct what feels right to our spiritual eye within for clarification/evaluation and once approved implementation.
Most of my beliefs are contrary to popular Christian belief but i can assure you I'm on a acceptable path as i regularly am shown by god that he approves.
Many roads lead to heaven it's how we travel that road that counts, people just do not grasp as you so correctly wrote that the bible was written by people- Clearly through language translations we find translations/interpretations are not literal across different languages this in itself should be ringing massive alarm bells to the sheep who would consider the bible literal and thats without even weighing in human nature.
Weighing up those two points alone should ring bells so loud to anyone with a single iota of looking past their nose.
Let alone many other points to add to the equation of fact versus crap.

FYI my general view is written in the thread second coming.

I believe my faith is pure, im regularly reassured but exhaustingly regularly tempted by the dark side as the dark side definitely see me as a valuable asset, but i will not bow down to anyone or any temptation nor worship any symbol (any symbol), the path to whats fact and whats crap is a deeply personal journey for all but all must recognise these simple basics -
1- there is only one god.
2- do not murder (anything) intentially.
3- honor/worship no symbol (no symbol)(no symbol)(no symbol).
4- be pure in kindness.
And the rest regardless of a person's whereabouts will domino effect into place as long as consistency in exercising these basic points is prioritized.
The trojan horse is the bible indeed and only the above mentioned points will allow the sheep to xray this trojan horse.

Most people will believe they do exercise these basic qualities but i can assure you they fail miserably and i mean miserably in point 3.

And thanks i never thought of Daniel in regards to my avatar but in the context of your comparison, the overwhelming majority of the world so far is my king Darius.