Fake Bombing Hoaxer a Florida Seminole Indian (Hoax Update)

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus>>> He was obsessed with being young so I wonder if maybe that might have been a way to persuade him to do this. He sends harmless bombs, or bombs that would be minimally dangerous if they did manage to somehow detonate, and they may give him a light sentence. But what if they dangled a supposed youth serum under his nose. There's a growing feeling that the elite have been taking supplements designed to prolong their lives, from sources too horrible to mention but related to human trafficking. They paid off that goofus who faked the pizza place shootup in DC, he was tied to human traffickers. His reward, his parents and his involvement in it never came to light. MK Ultra or just buying off morons, you decide.

originally posted by: Dutchowl
MK Ultra or just buying off morons, you decide.

Neither. Crazy people being crazy.

originally posted by: Doctor Smith
(1) Bombs are all fake with no explosives or detonators.

(2) Hoaxer or patsy is a Florida Seminole Indian (not white). Possibly a registered Democrat.

So Fox News is in on this Hoax?

The experts on FOX NEWS said the bombs were operational.

www.foxnews.com...

Jimmie Oxley is a professor and explosive expert. She aided in the investigations in the '93 World Trade Center bombing and the 2005 London bombings.

JIMMIE OXLEY, EXPLOSIVES EXPERT: Well, what we have seen is some x-rays and they looked like they would be operational. It is typical for EOD, Explosive Ordinance Disposal to be able to x-ray packages.

In today age with the MSM, a photo is worth a thousand lies.

a reply to: soberbacchus

Anybody says anything for the right price

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originally posted by: jtma508
What a bunch of clowns. You people would believe anything...

and you are here, and a member of a conspiracy website why?

originally posted by: TruthJava

originally posted by: jtma508
What a bunch of clowns. You people would believe anything...

and you are here, and a member of a conspiracy website why?

Conspiracy website, not ideologue fantasy website.

Conspiracy theory is built upon facts we know and facts we don't and a pursuit of answers.

It is not built upon facts we ignore and facts we invent to fit a narrative.

TESTING conspiracy theories is how they get stronger.

When initial facts and evidence are ignored and other facts are invented, it is not even a theory worth testing.

Agreed. However we have facts that are just plain fishy.

1) SOME of the packages were not mailed (even though stamped, they were delivered by a courier, not mailed). In different states.

2) The pic of the CNN bomb. Where in the evidence chain was this taken? Did folks at CNN just take a pic of a suspected bomb? Did the police allow photographers in for a suspected live bomb? They don't appear to be police photos (i.e. no evidence markers, etc.)

3) The differing pics of the suspect's van, showing different stickers in the rear window. (and at least one witness saying these stickers were not there previously).

4) That none of the bombs appeared to be functional, but instead, just enough components to fit the legal definitions.

So far, the evidence does support (in my mind) that the suspect is a right wing nut (although apparently only since 2016, but still...) However, we have to ask ourselves his goal of sending fake bombs to these folks, and why he sent them to people who obviously don't open their own mail?

There's still a LOT of fishy things about this. So, still quite a bit for conspiracy theorists to chew on here.

originally posted by: Gazrok
Agreed. However we have facts that are just plain fishy.

1) SOME of the packages were not mailed (even though stamped, they were delivered by a courier, not mailed). In different states.

The assumption of "courier" was made due to the lack of post-mark.

The lack of post-mark was a function of the soft packaging and shape not allowing it to go through Mail sorting equipment.
Different mail facilities have different machinery for sorting.

Four separate officials briefed on, or involved with, the investigation have told NBC this week that some packages were not postmarked because the soft packaging could not go through the postal machines.

....

In fact, the U.S. Postal Service's own website says postmarks aren't required in all cases.

"Postmarks are not required for mailings bearing a permit, meter, or precanceled stamp for postage, nor to pieces with an indicia applied by various postage evidencing systems," the USPS says on this

www.nbcnewyork.com...
about.usps.com...

2) The pic of the CNN bomb. Where in the evidence chain was this taken? Did folks at CNN just take a pic of a suspected bomb? Did the police allow photographers in for a suspected live bomb? They don't appear to be police photos (i.e. no evidence markers, etc.)

Everyone has a camera on their phone. Is it not likely or possible that whover discovered the bomb would have taken a picture on their phone? Either way I do not see the link between this unanswered question and an MKUltra, massive conspiracy. Relevance?

3) The differing pics of the suspect's van, showing different stickers in the rear window. (and at least one witness saying these stickers were not there previously).

Some of the Pics of the suspects van were taken and shared on twitter BEFORE this event because fellow drivers thought all the stickers ridiculous. People shared various photos of the suspects van taken over the previous year once they recognized it on the news. He added and subtracted stickers at different times over the past year or so.

4) That none of the bombs appeared to be functional, but instead, just enough components to fit the legal definitions.

"appeared"? I have seen different opinions. It "appears" everyone on the internet is a bomb expert.

I would imagine a real expert is educated and trained in how to specifically read and interpret bomb-x-ray technology accurately.

I would also ask if the imagery was taken before or after disarming.

Either way, amongst actual known and credentialed bomb experts interviewed on FOX and other places, the bombs were "functional" albeit poorly made.

If this was a massive, vast conspiracy, I don't think they would have used such incompetently made explosives for their news media images.
In the end it seems you are questioning this guys bomb making competence.

he couldn't spell and his own attorney is claiming he is a "14 year old boy" in an "adults body".

So far, the evidence does support (in my mind) that the suspect is a right wing nut (although apparently only since 2016, but still...) However, we have to ask ourselves his goal of sending fake bombs to these folks, and why he sent them to people who obviously don't open their own mail?

You pre-suppose that he is neither crazy or stupid. I think the evidence strongly demonstrates he is likely both.

originally posted by: xuenchen
Bombshell Report.........

Dissecting a False Flag Bomber

“Despite his vehicle being festooned with pro-Trump stickers and him attending Trump rallies, so-called ‘MAGA bomber’ Cesar Sayoc doesn’t follow any Republicans or conservatives on Twitter, choosing instead to follow left-wing personalities like Lena Dunham, Jimmy Kimmel and Barack Obama.”

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Shock, horror. Trump nut follows Left-wingers on Twitter who he likes to send abuse and threats to. How hard is that to understand?

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exactly I read if they got shaken hard they could have gone off they were NOT harmless

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Doctor Smith

Who said the bombs were fake?
And who said they did not contain explosives?

Like I said.. here we go with 3 years of whaboutism and wild guessing to try and convince people this was an elaborate false flag, years in the planning. Wee.. fun times. Apparently it's impossible for there to be a far right crazy.

Wait a minute- so you try to make a serious point, then link infowars?

Lol.

originally posted by: TruthJava

originally posted by: jtma508
What a bunch of clowns. You people would believe anything...

and you are here, and a member of a conspiracy website why?

He's here for serious discussions on chupacabra and bigfeet

originally posted by: research100
exactly I read if they got shaken hard they could have gone off they were NOT harmless

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Doctor Smith

Who said the bombs were fake?
And who said they did not contain explosives?

The head of the fbi Wren, said they contained energetic material that would be consistent with those that would generate heat or some way of saying they weren't exactly bombs but not necessarily what we would classify as a child's toy.

originally posted by: Gargoyle91
What's strange is this guy's rap sheet and hes not done any jail time just probation over and over again and never got jail time for violating probation .

If you see some cities like SF CA do that as a practice, you might think it does happen. Not in the Rich parts I am sure. In the southern US that is not happening. The Judges are pretty by the book. If the law says X crime conviction means Y jail time. Violate probation at your own risk, but if caught they give them the whole sentence. So, the next time he is up to see the Judge there will be a come to Jesus moment then.

If he mailed a bunch of strike anywhere matches and FW mortars, that could also blow up if it was shaken up.

Here's an opinion on these "bombs" from a guy that seems to know what he's talking about. Don't know much about him but what he's saying makes sense.

twitter.com...


It also seems a little odd that a supposedly rabidly pro-Trump guy had a Twitter account that didn't follow Trump's Twitter feed.

In it's current state this entire event, if it was written as a script for a serious movie, would be torn to shreds by critics due to the massive plot holes in it.

a reply to: soberbacchus

In fact, the U.S. Postal Service's own website says postmarks aren't required in all cases.

"Postmarks are not required for mailings bearing a permit, meter, or precanceled stamp for postage, nor to pieces with an indicia applied by various postage evidencing systems," the USPS says on this

Ok, so did any of the packages bear the necessary permit, meter, precanceled stamp for postage, or indicia?

I would imagine a real expert is educated and trained in how to specifically read and interpret bomb-x-ray technology accurately.

A former bomb disposal officer tweeted “Proper pipe bombs don’t have wires connected to both ends. That’s dumb.”

A real pipe bomb would have both wires going to a "cap" which triggers the bomb. Also the clock is stupid since it's unknown when the packages will arrive, not to mention the clock doesn't even have a timer/alarm function.

Either way, amongst actual known and credentialed bomb experts interviewed on FOX and other places, the bombs were "functional" albeit poorly made.

They are absolutely not functional, the wording they have used is that they may be dangerous if exposed to enough heat or friction, meaning they probably contain some sort of volatile substance such as gunpowder or fireworks powder.

In the end it seems you are questioning this guys bomb making competence.

he couldn't spell and his own attorney is claiming he is a "14 year old boy" in an "adults body".

If he's clearly quite uneducated that's enough reason to question his bomb making competence. He clearly had no idea what he was doing and his goal was to make something that appeared scary but wasn't functional.

a reply to: Gazrok

Here is another list of very .....very....ahem very
fishy stuff surrounding this Cesar Altieri.


www.investmentwatchblog.com...

He actually has a very good longtime friend named.....

"Ricky" Prado of CIA fame.

At the link, screenshots taken of his facebook before it
was taken down. Dont want to miss this folks.