At least 8 people dead, three police officers shot at Pittsburgh synagogue; suspect in custody

a reply to: conspiracy nut

The shooter is a Trump Hater, who thought Trump is
a Zionist or some nutter conspiracy idea like that.

His facebook is replete with antisemite posts.

originally posted by: Violater1
There is no #MAGA as long as there is a k*** infestation.

What is this infestation you speak of?

a reply to: Violater1

Does not matter that he does not like trump he is a member of the same club though and so are several ats members. Hang out with dogs you get fleas!

originally posted by: vinifalou
a reply to: oloufo

Actually it is a constitutional right.

Not that you guys care about a piece of paper.

So is the right to due process. I don't see you fetishizing that one.

originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: vinifalou
a reply to: oloufo

Actually it is a constitutional right.

Not that you guys care about a piece of paper.

So is the right to due process. I don't see you fetishizing that one.

The "due process" will manifest when an electrician gets hired.

🤜🔌🤛

a reply to: conspiracy nut

What does it matter who this guy liked politically? The guy is obviously deranged and mentally ill. He is responsible for his own actions. I wonder if he is on prescription psychiatric drugs? That would be the only way I wouldn't hold him totally accountable for his own actions.

originally posted by: cfnyaami
a reply to: Violater1

Who the hell need(sic) semi-automatic weapons unless they're soldiers or murderers? You sure as heck don't need 'em to hunt. Combined with this dude's anti-Semitism and hatred of immigrants it's a real shame.

Why such a narrow scope in what has happened today? Who the hell needs to murder people?

originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy

originally posted by: Violater1
There is no #MAGA as long as there is a k*** infestation.

What is this infestation you speak of?

It was not I that spoke this, it is a quote from the murder.

a reply to: conspiracy nut

We are nationalists. Which has nothing to do with this guy or his actions.

This guy was a Nazi. Nationalist does not equal Nazi. And regardless, the actions of an individual do not speak for an entire group (unless and until that entire group preaches/accepts violence).

Nationalists support a strong nation, a cohesive national culture, strong borders, law & order, total dedication and deference to our Constitution, sovereign self-government and a powerful agenda placing our interests first (as every country should always do). Vile attacks based on despicable ideology do nothing to make our country or our people - all of our people - strong or prosperous. These types of senseless acts of terror/extremism do nothing to improve the lives of Americans (which as American nationalists we advocate for and strive to improve).

These cowardly acts are the antithesis of Nationalism.

You are attempting to conflate nationalism with disgusting Nazi ideology. That is an incorrect comparison.

It is no different than those who attempted to wrongly conflate the term "white nationalist" with "white supremacist" - which is also a vile attack, albeit a verbal one only. A white nationalist is a nationalist who just so happens to be Caucasian (just as a Black or Asian nationalist could be described as "insert arbitrary race nationalist") whereas a supremacist extremist advocates the primacy or superiority of one race over another and usually also advocate "enforcing" or otherwise ensuring that supremacy through acts of violence. One is an acceptable and reasonable political disposition (akin to liberal/libertarian/conservative/nationalist/etc) whereas the other is a criminal/borderline terrorist (terrorism requires political motivation, not racial)

originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: conspiracy nut

We are nationalists. Which has nothing to do with this guy or his actions.

This guy was a Nazi. Nationalist does not equal Nazi. And regardless, the actions of an individual do not speak for an entire group (unless and until that entire group preaches/accepts violence).

Nationalists support a strong nation, a cohesive national culture, strong borders, law & order, total dedication and deference to our Constitution, sovereign self-government and a powerful agenda placing our interests first (as every country should always do). Vile attacks based on despicable ideology do nothing to make our country or our people - all of our people - strong or prosperous. These types of senseless acts of terror/extremism do nothing to improve the lives of Americans (which as American nationalists we advocate for and strive to improve).

These cowardly acts are the antithesis of Nationalism.

You are attempting to conflate nationalism with disgusting Nazi ideology. That is an incorrect comparison.

It is no different than those who attempted to wrongly conflate the term "white nationalist" with "white supremacist" - which is also a vile attack, albeit a verbal one only. A white nationalist is a nationalist who just so happens to be Caucasian (just as a Black or Asian nationalist could be described as "insert arbitrary race nationalist") whereas a supremacist extremist advocates the primacy or superiority of one race over another and usually also advocate "enforcing" or otherwise ensuring that supremacy through acts of violence. One is an acceptable and reasonable political disposition (akin to liberal/libertarian/conservative/nationalist/etc) whereas the other is a criminal/borderline terrorist (terrorism requires political motivation, not racial)

Eloquently stated.
Had to give you a star.

a reply to: JBurns

Since you bring up Nazis - the national socialist party - they were nationalists were they not? We saw what great ideology they had. Proud boys? Not a fan of that archaic school of thought.

originally posted by: conspiracy nut
a reply to: JBurns

Since you bring up Nazis - the national socialist party - they were nationalists were they not? We saw what great ideology they had. Proud boys? Not a fan of that archaic school of thought.

That’s like saying the Democratic People’s Repubic of Korea’s is a) democratic, b) a republic, and c) representative of democracy and republics. It’s an asinine comparison to make. Just because somebody puts a term in their name doesn’t make it true.

You can be loyal and devoted to your country without being a Nazi. Even if the NDSAP had a scary word in its name.

a reply to: Violater1
Ah got ya, he seems as nuts as, well, a bag of nuts.

Sadly, the death toll has risen to 11.

originally posted by: conspiracy nut
a reply to: JBurns

Since you bring up Nazis - the national socialist party - they were nationalists were they not? We saw what great ideology they had. Proud boys? Not a fan of that archaic school of thought.

What is your definition of Nationalists. Like National Soccer Association, are all of those people "nationalists"?

I think that President Trump has a large cadre of fascist supporters that idolize him, though some may not like his Jewish ties.

originally posted by: Erno86
...though some may not like his Jewish ties.

I thought Trump only wore Trump ties?

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Erno86
...though some may not like his Jewish ties.

I thought Trump only wore Trump ties?

They're damned fine ties.
I have half a dozen of 'em.

"Mr. Bowers hatred of American Jews was apparently motivated in part by the generosity and empathy many of them have shown for non-Jewish[ refugees of conflicts world wide."
quote: NYT's OPINION MONDAY, OCTOBER 29, 2018 - "The Hate Poisoning America"

"The white nationalists, neo-Nazis and alt-right are energized by Trump's election, and yet many find his white power positioning falls short of their own.
That doesn't mean that Trump doesn't court their support and defend their actions."

"However, it must also be said Trump has produced a toxic environment of intolerance in this country that is deep and wide. He has flirted with the deepest racists and Nazis and it has not gone unnoticed, least of all by them."
quote: THE NEW YORK TIMES OP-ED MONDAY, OCTOBER 29, 2018 - Charles M. Blow - "Trump's Potent Toxicity"
/exnews]

a reply to: JBurns

hey Jayburn--

you wrote QUOTE

'It is terrible to see defenseless people attacked by some psychotic terrorist POS who are just trying to worship their God and be a part of their community. I'm very familiar with the Squirrel Hill area, lots of Jewish grocery stores and book stores there. We go a couple times a year, have family who live right next to the Giant Eagle up there (very close to this location, actually)...'

UNQUOTE

I certainly agree with your sentiments here but I wonder why there wasn't the same brand of media outrage back on Purim (5:30 am 25 Feb 1994) when that racist-anti-gentile Brooklyn-born Ashkenaz piglet Dr Rabbi Baruch Goldstein (a rabid follower of the racist Rebbe Meir Kahane, may-his-bones-be-dust...) opened fire with a handy-dandy Israeli-manufactured IDF automatic weapon in the Cave of the Ptriarchs Mosque in Hebron killing 29 similarly 'defenseless' Palestinians on their knees (wounding 87 more, all facing the East) and 'trying to worship their god and be part of their community' while screaming paleo-Hebrew verses from the racist-xenophobic-sexist Torah and that mad Prophet Hezeqiel with his ink pot (hez. chap 8/9 'slay them all every one facing the East, show no mercy whatsoever' & Deut. ch. 7, ch 13 &bch 20 : 'utterly-exterminate them all, men, women, children and animals...leave nothing alive that breathes under the vault of heaven...')

And now the 'good people' of Brooklyn NY have erected a statue to that pig (wait a minute, I'm insulting the pigs...); do you think anyone in America would dare to erect a statue to this more recent deluded chap in Pittsburgh? Somehow I doubt it---but I very much doubt that this misguided bloke was screaming verses from 'the holy-book of the Jews' to justify his actions--or maybe he did, I wasn't there myself...

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