FSME - Ask me

Im going to be very helpful because now and again i get e-mails and U2U from members asking me questions about the new world order, illuminati, etc. Sometimes im too busy to answer questions, but this thread is going to help you to gain a better knownledge into the new world order.

Now, ill try my best and will even look into things to answer questions, If you want my views on sites you find, feel free to give me the link so i can look also, dont understand something, i'll be happy to explain.

So, after that little speech, first question....

(can someone stick this for me)

[edit on 24-2-2005 by infinite]

Originally posted by infinite
So, after that little speech, first question....

Why do Masons hate the baby Jesus?

Sorry. Just kidding. Getting the ball rolling there.

Okay, what have you come across as either two good comprehensive examples of the "right wing NWO" theory versus the "left wing NWO" theory? If anything?

And any resource that does a good job covering, comparing and contrasting both?

Do you know what I'm talking about? I don't want to give examples and salt the mine just yet. Just open to input.

Originally posted by RANT
Okay, what have you come across as either two good comprehensive examples of the "right wing NWO" theory versus the "left wing NWO" theory? If anything?

Well,
there was an old agruement that goes back to when communism first appeared on the picture. Communism was seen as some force plotting to take over the world, pushing for a "new order".

The illuminati was against European monarchies and religion, in my books, thats left wing. You could even call them anarchists.

But then you have the Nazi's, far right, they invaded countries, Germany was a police state and thats what its meant to be like living under the new world order.

Good old Bush has been accused of pushing the new world order movement towards its goal. The new world order figures of today seem to be right wing.

As you can tell this is very confusing to take in. The group who is believed to lead the new world order, the illuminati, is left wing but the movement is very right wing.

This is why i try my hardest not to involve left and right wing

Originally posted by infinite
This is why i try my hardest not to involve left and right wing

I feel ya. I know that's where it all clashes with personal ideology and everyone fights.

I guess the best modern definition then is the removed example where strings are being pulled both left and right to divide people and keep the conflict going. Which seems counterintutitve to any NWO, but very much like an anarchist Illuminati agenda.

You know some of the original Bavarian philosophy was it's all a cycle, a never ending revolution in multiple stages anyway. They weren't trying to take over the world or impose an NWO, just ride the wave.

I think the "struggle" though is everyone actually wants an NWO (of some sort) and strives for the one they like and against the one they don't want.

And we're all doomed to disagree.

original Bavarian philosophy is interesting, it has nothing to do with taking over the world. Its when the group were drove underground when they were apparently "defeated". I feel that the group does exists, i dont know why...but i have that feeling.

Ok I have some questions on the NWO. I've been reading up on it lately and all but I'm still wondering about certain things. Is Bush really involved? And have you ever heard of bohemian grove?

Originally posted by ufo_believer
Ok I have some questions on the NWO. I've been reading up on it lately and all but I'm still wondering about certain things. Is Bush really involved? And have you ever heard of bohemian grove?

Yes i have heard of Bohemian grove i.e the Bohemian club where the elite meet up to worship an owl god.

Is bush envolved? Ill say yes, he is, but someone is pulling his strings.

[edit on 16-3-2005 by infinite]

Just to put my 2 pennies worth in here.

Yes there are plans for a NWO(stop the left wing or right wing thinking)They have created this divide, this conflict. The behind the scenes, families and organisations that funded capitalism also funded communism. Just to create the illusion of divide. Something to fight against one could say. 5 years ago people like Alex Jones was ridiculed for saying there are plans for this Global Government, Central World Bank, One world army so on and so on. Now these people realise that more and more see this happening so now they pretend to give you a choice of "Ok there is plan for a NWO blah blah, but you the people have a choice of Left Wing or Right Wing Globaal Government. TWO MASKS ON THE SAME FACE.
Australia even say ok we think there should be a LIBERAL Global Government controlled by the UN.

We can see in America with the Police State that is happening. Police who don't have badge numbers just black ski masks and riot gear. In a facist way if you want the political sense. In Europe the Police State isn't so much happening because they're introducing the same system but in a different way. More subtle one could say. The Socialist way if you want a political way to look at it. I no longer see the left and right I now see the what is happening. Once again TWO MASKS: ONE FACE. Imagine it maybe as 2 different styles of management teams working for the same goal.

George Bush, Tony Blair even these newly formed democractic governments in Afghanistan and Iraq(THESE PEOPLE ARE PURPOSEFULLY CHOSEN AND PLACED LIKE SADDAM HUSSEIN WAS. HIS JOB HAD BEEN DONE AND HE SERVED HIS PURPOSE) I have a theory on whether he is actually a prisoner later topic to discuss maybe. Anyway these people are just answering to higher level on the pyramid structure of so called power.

ANYWAY WE KNOW AND CAN SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING. THERE IS A VEIL BEING LIFTED.

SO OK WE KNOW!!!!!! BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY ONCE WE KNOW HOW THEY THEY ARE DOING IT WE CAN THEN STEP AWAY AND BRING DOWN THE TOP OF THE PYRAMID BECAUSE WE THE PEOPLE AT THE BOTTOM REALLY HAVE THE POWER THAT HOLDS IT UP. WE STEP AWAY IT COLLAPSES.

A GREAT MAN, DAVID ICKE, HAS OFTEN SAID A FEW PEOPLE CAN'T CONTROL THE MASSSES WITH FORCE. JUST TOO MANY OF US TO DO SO. SO THEY CREATE INCIDENTS, CONTROL OUR MEDIA THE LIST IS ENDLESS. TO GET US THE MASSES TO THINK IN THE WAY THEY WANT US TO. THEY GIVE US THE ILLUSION OF DEMORACY WITH VOTING EVERY 4 YEARS FOR 1 OF THE 2 MASKS, THEN WE DON'T HAVE INFLUENCE UNTIL 4 YEARS ON FOR THE NEXT SO CALLED CHOICE.

WE KNOW, INFORM OTHERS. READ THE NON MAINSTREAM VERSION OF EVENTS THAT ARE SUPRESSED BY THE FOX NEWS/ CNN AND THE MANY OTHERS THAT THESE PEOPLE CONTROL.

JUST STEP AWAY FROM THE PYRAMID AND THE MORE WHO DO THE MORE OTHERS WILL BE WONDERING WHY. AND WE CAN ONLY INFORM THEM. NOT TELL THEM IT'S RIGHT. JUST SAY THIS IS STUFF YOU DON'T HEAR ABOUT OR READ ABOUT IN THE CONTROLLED MEDIA. THIS IS HAPPENING, THEN LET THEM DRAW THEIR OWN CONCLUSIONS.

CONSTITUIONAL RIGHT FREEDOM OF SPEECH. HOWEVER THIS IS BECOMING FREEDOM OF SPEECH BUT YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT THIS AND THAT.

MAKE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND BY DOING WHAT THEY DO PULL ON A STRING THAT WILL MAKE THE PEOPLE SIT UP.

WITH SAY MOTHERS. SHOW THEM EVIDENCE OF PAEDOPHILES IN HIGH GOVERNMENT. SHOW HOW THEY MANIPULATE CHILDREN FROM AND EARLY AGE INTO THINKING WHAT THEY WANT US TO THINK. IF YOU WERE TO PRINT A STORY IN A MAIN STREAM PAPER EVERY DAY ABOUT THIS AND PROVE IT WITH EVIDENCE THEN PEOPLE WILL GET THE MESSAGE.

THE MESSAGE "HE HAS WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION" THAT APPEARED IN FIX(FOX)NEWS OR CNN WAS NEVER REALLY PROVED. THE STORIES OF THE WEAPONS INSPECTORS SAYING THAT THEY HAD NO WEAPONS AND THERE WAS NO THREAT WAS NEVER IN THESE MAINSTREAM MEDIA OUTLETS. OR IF THEY WERE THEY WERE QUICKLY SUPRESSED. EVERY DAY SAME MESSAGE "HE HAS WEAPONS" "HE HAS WEAPONS" NEVER EVERY DAY THE INSPECTORS SAYING"HE HAS NO WEAPONS" "HE HAS NO WEAPONS"

WELL I'VE GONE ON LONG ENOUGH. ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE ASK AND ALSO ANY NEW INFO FORWARD IT ON

INFOWARS.COM GREAT FOR WHAT'S HAPPENING.
DAVIDICKE.COM GREAT FOR UNDERSTANDING HOW THEY IN POWER PULL THIS OFF.
PROPAGANDAMATRIX.COM ANOTHER GOOD ONE FOR INFO ON WHAT'S HAPPENING. THESE ARE MY PERSONAL CHOICES BUT I KNOW THERE'S ALOT MORE WITH THE SAME MESSAGES

Good bye and regards

This thread is for asking the FSME (me) questions related to the new world order, not a member theory section. Please post your theories under the correct section of the board.

Sorry for putting a theory there.

I'll ask a question or 2 to make up for it.

Do you have any proposals on how we can make people more aware of the events that are happening concerning the NWO? Do you have any thoughts on how to make more people understand that they can step away from the pyramid of illusion?

[edit on 17-3-2005 by MrDog]

Originally posted by MrDog
Do you have any proposals on how we can make people more aware of the events that are happening concerning the NWO?

Im not sure, sites like ATS and propapganda matrix, etc open the door to people and helps them understand.

Do you have any thoughts on how to make more people understand that they can step away from the pyramid of illusion?

I dont know. You cant force people to expect something if they dont believe it.

Originally posted by infinite

Bohemian club where the elite meet up to worship an owl god.

Is bush envolved? Ill say yes, he is, but someone is pulling his strings.

You think dubya goes somewhere and secretly worships an owl god?

Originally posted by LadyV
You think dubya goes somewhere and secretly worships an owl god?

Bush has appeared at Bohemian grove in the past, here is a picture of him talking at the grove with daddy back in 1995



Source

K.....I don't know anything about "the grove", so I am ignorant on it....this means he worships an owl god?

Originally posted by LadyV
K.....I don't know anything about "the grove", so I am ignorant on it....this means he worships an owl god?

Well yes he does, but grove members say its just a joke, which is funny, cause these people are supposed to be Christians and they are worshipping a false god.

Originally posted by infinite

Well yes he does, but grove members say its just a joke, which is funny, cause these people are supposed to be Christians and they are worshipping a false god.

So, this is public knowledge, and yet...the Christian community re-elected him I don't get it?

Originally posted by LadyV
So, this is public knowledge, and yet...the Christian community re-elected him

I don't get it?

It was being covered in mainstream newspapers on the westcoast according to Alex Jones. But the election was probably fixed, especially if you read into the electronic voting system. It great how the new world order pulls the strings.

You're correct in saying you can't force people to belief. My question should of maybe have been phrased better.

It should of been. Do you have any ideas, proposals on how to make the supressed information more open to people?

Then at least the people have the choice on what to believe. We know the mass media is controlled so the message being putting across is one they want us to believe.

Take it easy

Originally posted by MrDog
Do you have any ideas, proposals on how to make the supressed information more open to people?

e-activism, which is basically using the internet to promote something. Political groups tends to do it, ATS might fall under e-activism.

When the NWO begins what do figure will be the first step of action?