One of the best reasons to turn away the caravan people

a reply to: TinySickTears

Well I mean your always vocal about your opoid addiction I would think that would bar you from owning a firearm, and # plz dont flatter yourself.

NVM

a reply to: Lysergic

dont know if it would or not

go ahead and school me kind sir

since this thread is about me now

but you must only pick and choose what you pay attention too.
ive been off them for some time now. talked about that too.
guess you missed that part

a reply to: TinySickTears

Well isn't that special.

a reply to: narrator

The law is they're supposed to apply at the nearest border / embassy from where they are and go from there ala due process.

That's converse to busting past multiple borders and imposing their will upon ours when they get here.

originally posted by: chiefsmom
I don't get it.
If your country is so bad, that your leaving it, wanting to get into another country, why are you carrying that countries flag? Doesn't that mean your proud of it?
Then why are you leaving it?

YUP and why are you burning the flag of the country you are invading?

They didn't enter Mexico legally what makes you think they will at the US border.

If these people want to come to the country, apply for a #ing Visa like all the LEGAL immigrants did.

My parents waited years to be able to come to the USA and so should these people.

And also any registered Democrat that wants illegals in, should pay extra Tax to cover the illegals taxes.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

This is the part the bleeding hearts like to ignore. On top of that, this group broke through the border into Mexico. That's not peaceful immigration or asylum seeking. It's a violent invasion. If they aren't stopped in their tracks, it's going to turn into wave after wave after wave.

Automatically turning them away would be in violation of U.S. asylum laws that have been on the books since the 1950's. You seem to want immigration laws enforced, but apparently not all of them.

Can you please make a list of which laws you want enforced and which ones you don't?

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

So you're telling me that this caravan of 7,000 people with nowhere to take cover is going to survive this hurricane better than a border? Cameras are all over them, how could we possibly lose them? We'll know exactly where they are.

If they get to the border in time and bands of liberals show up with truckloads of tarps they can use them as parasails and fly over the border via the hurricane force winds.

Having paid attention to this issue the following can be stated:

This country is a nation of immigrants, unless a person is an native American, whose ancestor came here thousands of years ago via the Bearing Straights land bridge, all of our ancestors came here from another country, some fleeing from oppressive policies, or seeking for freedoms, building a country that would enshrine and cherish those freedoms. And that was an idea, which was sent far and wide, like a light in the dark, to all corners of the world. In that idea, there was no mention of what all a person could do, but it was that it was a land of second chances, where a person could work hard and achieve their dreams.

There are several problems here. The main problem is the truth, and that is many of the current immigration problems and policies go back to earlier administrations, starting in the 1940’s. And it progressively got worse over there years, with far worse US policies during the cold war and the results of those policies are now being seen today. During World War II, the US invited migrant workers into the country, to help with the farms, but after the war, did not stop the policies, but offered special visa’s and waivers. During the Cold War, the US policy was to stop the influence of the Soviet Union, which resulted in dictators being kept in power in many of the Central American countries. And when civil wars broke out, the US did not want to deal with a mess that it created. Later on when MS 13, first became a problem in the US, as it was formed on the streets of the US, the US deported those members back to their home countries, shipping it mess back to other countries, rather than deal with the problem.

Another problem is that the immigration system is in shambles. Not enough persons to deal with the sheer number of people. Interpreters and lawyers are in short supply, and the judges are too few and expecting to clear far more cases than they can handle. The investigators are also in short supply and the border patrol are facing equal shortages, to where it is a system that is imperil. Added to the fact that the immigration department itself is underfunded. Even if a person comes through legally, it could take years for them to get approved, due to the underfunding and lack of persons, and still in that time frame be deported.

Another aspect that is not reported on, but the reality is that a good 40% of the illegal immigrants who are here in the USA, came legally, just overstayed their visa’s and never went home. They did not walk across the border, but flew in, came in through the front door. Those are never addressed, and often are ignored or under reported.

The solution is going to hurt, the first is that the government has to admit the truth, and stop lying to the public, instead of using it as a political crutch. In all of these years, the federal government could have stopped this at any time and has chosen to ignore it. Congress does nothing about it, in all of that time, rather putting a bandage on the issue but never solves it.

The first thing is that we need to know the truth, not a political slant. The second is that the system needs to be addressed and looked at, and fixed. Perhaps say proper funding to the system, more judges, and courts, and investigators, and all of that.